Resko must be spilling his guts out.
WADDA SHOCK!!!
EDIT: Mark my words. There will some Obama prints forthcoming.
The US attorney is giving a pretty interesting press conference as we speak. The investigation was “far ranging” according to him.
[quote]hedo wrote:
The US attorney is giving a pretty interesting press conference as we speak. The investigation was “far ranging” according to him.[/quote]
Yeah, I have it on.
Haha, I just posted this, too. This is so surreal, it’s fucking hilarious. Maybe, he should have tried to auction it off on Ebay 
I thought it was the governor’s choice to make within the guidelines of his state’s legal system.
What does it matter why or how he makes his decision?
This is further proof of the mantra, “do what ever it takes to win, just don’t get caught.”
Everyone knew Blagojevich was corrupt, but shit, this is taking it to extremes. I wonder if any of the potential senate replacements were caught on the other end of any of these conversations but didn’t report them.
It’s also interesting that Patrick Fitzgerald is the prosecutor here.
I’m sure the value of the seat he was trying to sell went down considerably. Whoever he appoints, whether he paid for it or not, is going to be tainted.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
WADDA SHOCK!!!
EDIT: Mark my words. There will some Obama prints forthcoming.[/quote]
Yup. Nobody gets anywhere in Chicago politics without playing along. Selling a Senate seat NOW…wonder how much Soros paid for Obama’s?
It seems Obama’s team didn’t like the smell:
What Did Obama Know?
President-elect Obama’s transition office has yet to comment on the news of the arrest of Gov. Rod Blogojevich, but there is some suspicion that the Obama team at least knew of the investigation.
Transcripts of wiretap conversations suggest that the governor had conversations with Obama’s transition team about Senate Candidate 1. Marc Ambinder makes a very strong case that this “is probably senior Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett.”
In fact, just days after the presidental election, there were reports that Obama favored Jarrett for the Senate appointment. However, it’s also clear from the complaint that the transition team refused to play ball with Blagojevich. The complaint states the governor said he knows
that Obama wanted Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing
to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”
As Ben Smith notes, Jarrett’s “abrupt withdrawal from consideration for the Senate seat suggests Obama’s circle aware of the investigation” and wanted to distance themselves from any contacts with Blogojevich.
December 9, 2008
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/12/09/what_did_obama_know.html
[quote]entheogens wrote:
Haha, I just posted this, too. This is so surreal, it’s fucking hilarious. Maybe, he should have tried to auction it off on Ebay :)[/quote]
Auctioning off public offices has a long and proud tradition and did not necessarily lead to worse results than voting.
At least people pay with their own money to get into office and do not promise other people yours.
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[quote]orion wrote:
entheogens wrote:
Haha, I just posted this, too. This is so surreal, it’s fucking hilarious. Maybe, he should have tried to auction it off on Ebay
Auctioning off public offices has a long and proud decision and did not necessarily lead to worse results than voting.
At least people pay with their own money to get into office and do not promise other people yours.
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Obama may or may not be involved but 3 former governors of Illinois are convicted felons. The state is famous here as being a very corrupt state. That Obama comes out of it all squeeky clean is questionable. He may be as honest as the day is long but a dog who travels with dogs who have fleas is likely to have fleas as well.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Obama may or may not be involved but 3 former governors of Illinois are convicted felons. The state is famous here as being a very corrupt state. That Obama comes out of it all squeeky clean is questionable. He may be as honest as the day is long but a dog who travels with dogs who have fleas is likely to have fleas as well.
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Yes, but in that case, we ALL have fleas.
Interesting timeline posted here.
http://volokh.powerblogs.com/posts/1228903890.shtml
Since Obama was involved in trying to name his relacement it is naive to think that either he or Emanuel were not aware of the Governors activities. Notice Axelrod didn’t correct himself regarding his comments of Nov.23rd…someone else did. If he changed his story, and was proven wrong, and did so again under questioning, he would be covering up.
Obama was certianly aware of what was going on. The question will be did he participate in the game or try and cover them up?
Pretty nice to hear that the gov was pissed that Obama wasn’t corrupt enough to bribe him. Woulda been pretty spirit crushing if Obama was at all tied to this. But maybe for a lot of people here it’s more crushing that he isn’t dirty.
Still marking your words Tirib. Let me know when the facts come out that Obama was involved in any way.
Yesterday the speculation was that the Senate Candidate 5 was either Emile Jones or Jesse Jackson Jr. Remember SC5 was the one offering the large chunk of change for the seat. Today the speculation has focused on JJJr. Between the election of Obama and this, it would be quite the one-two punch to the Jackson clan.
[quote]etaco wrote:
Yesterday the speculation was that the Senate Candidate 5 was either Emile Jones or Jesse Jackson Jr. Remember SC5 was the one offering the large chunk of change for the seat. Today the speculation has focused on JJJr. Between the election of Obama and this, it would be quite the one-two punch to the Jackson clan.[/quote]
Obama is either naive, to NOT notice all the shenanigans going on all around him (Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Blagojevich), or he’s part of it all. Given that he’s a Harvard Law grad and 1st in his class, I suspect he’s NOT dumb.
In either case, he doesn’t deserve to be POTUS. But, of course, we just HAVE to vote for the first black man to be president.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
WADDA SHOCK!!!
EDIT: Mark my words. There will some Obama prints forthcoming.[/quote]
Oh goody. They’ll go along fantastically well with my Obama commemorative plates and Obama commemorative coins.
OK…here is the real question. Who on SNL is going to play Gov Blagojevich ?
I say Seth Myers with some really big hair and a leather jacket !!
You can see the skit now…all kinds of words being bleeped out.
Daniel Larison (who, if you’ve read him you know is no friend of Obama):
"While the Blagosphere has been almost entirely consumed with our governor?s corruption and the state fair auction-like atmosphere that surrounded the Senate seat appointment,
some bloggers on the left have begun noticing that reporting and commentary have tried to make the Blagojevich scandals into a serious problem for Obama, despite the evidence that shows Blagojevich to be deeply hostile to the President-elect and shows the latter to be uninvolved in any of the governor?s (alleged) crimes.
One reason why this is happening is that a lot of journalists and pundits have become bored with the transition. It?s been going reasonably well, and it has been run so competently and with such an obvious emphasis on establishment-friendly appointments and merit (at least as merit is conventionally defined by that establishment) that most observers have been hungry for something else to talk about, and what better than a scandal involving all of the themes of the ?old? politics, complete with bribery and shakedowns?
You already have the makings of an overreaching and misleading narrative: ?old Illinois politics mars transition period for Obama.?
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Having finally recognized that Obama is a savvy political operator who is interested in effective government to pursue what are still broadly progressive goals, and having started to grasp that Obama is not a neo-McGovernite radical dove but is actually rather hawkish and establishmentarian in his instincts,
The next thing for journalists and pundits to fixate on would have to be ethics and the political career in Illinois that virtually everyone ignored while they, again mostly in the mainstream press and on the right, were obsessing over his religious or tangential associations.
Here we see the collective disbelief that a savvy Chicago pol could be at once more or less indifferent to the corruption of the machine politics around him (a guy who ?won?t make no waves and won?t back no losers,? as Kass put it over six months ago), while nonetheless being free from any personal involvement in that corruption.
People have a hard time making sense of a politician who can appear as the friend of the Hyde Park Independents and the Daley machine when each connection suits him, because it isn?t supposed to work that way."
http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/12/11/mr-tumnus-fast-eddie-and-misjudging-obama/