[quote]Alffi wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
The majority of Spaniards are against bullfighting so there goes the whole moral relativism and judging cultures argument. [/quote]
There has been a decline in popularity, the only place where people are actually against bullfighting is Catalonia. There’s a huge difference between being against something and simply not going to watch it. Catalonia is only one region of Spain and really only dislikes bullfighting because they’re trying distance themselves from things viewed as Spanish.
[quote]Berserkergang wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
B. That’s exactly what you should expect when you tease a powerful beast[/quote]
Not exactly. If I recall correctly in Europe (Spain and southern France) EVERY YEAR there are ten of thousands of bulls tortured to death by those effeminate clowns. On the other hand only a dozen of those jerks (Spain) have been killed in the last 200 years. By the way writing “torturing” a powerful (but nonetheless helpless) animal would be more accurate than “teasing”. This is actual torture.
Of course this is not the killing of an animal per se which is problematic but its systematic torture beforehand.
Some “cool” vids:
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Those aren’t cool videos, this is a cool video:
Do you think factory farming isn’t torture? A animal is kept in a confined space that is densely packed with other animals, it’s then injected with hormones and fed so it can be slaughtered as soon as possible. Then the cow will be rendered unconscious, hung upside, and its jugular is cut. The bulls[who happen to bred only for bullfighting] are stabbed a limited amount of times with a lance, have sticks stuck in its back, then are ultimately killed in one motion by the matador[if they’re good]. The final strike of the matador should kill the bull in 20 seconds or less.
The only difference between killing animals for food and doing so for sport is there’s no audience, both are equally as brutal. Besides, I can’t see why people focus on the bulls, the horses are the ones people should care about. Where’s the outcry for the horses? I can’t say I’ve ever heard any. I suppose it’s because there’s no group of people[PETA] distorting facts and making ridiculous attempts at trying to stop stress and pain imposed on horses.
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I’m not going to defend factory farming but two wrongs don’t make a right. Besides, the aim of factory farming is efficient food production, not animal abuse for animal abuse’s sake. It’s much easier to talk people out of animalfighting than meat consumption. And for the record, I do not eat meat so that cannot be thrown against me. [/quote]
Where’s the abuse in bullfighting? The bull is killed, it however just has a slower path to death. A bull will be stressed before it’s killed regardless of where and who it’s killed by, will be weakened, and will eventually be killed. The ring and the slaughterhouse are similar, however only the ring provides a opportunity to be spared.
[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
LOL @ people using google for references in to how bulls are kept and prepped for bullfighting, most likely in a country they have NEVER stepped foot in whatsover. Unless you have lived/live in Spain or know an extensive amount of people from Spain, you have no say in this matter and your assumptions are full of shit.
Some people…seriously.
When I go to Spain, I’m going to watch a bull fight and enjoy the entertainment. After I’ll go hit up the infamous bar with all the pictures of famous matadores/bulls plastered over the walls and enjoy a drink with the locals and take it all in, hell maybe even take a picture with the Matadores and dead bulls . I’m going to go eat some steak now, oooh boo hoo hoo poor little cow , I’ll have to force myself to eat it and I’ll season it’s nicely grilled flesh with my tears. (ps you vegans who subtly make it known “I don’t eat meat” like we’ll praise you or actually really care, can fuck off)
nice vid too golden gloves…haters gonna hate:)[/quote]
Where do you go, Madrid? Sounds like Madrid or Seville.
