Hi all!
this year i was on a very long cycle (feb-september), composed by cruising and blasting…
Now after 5 weeks of “tapering” (TE 500 then 250 then 125 weekly) and 1 at zero i have started PCT wirh nolva (20 ED).
I have noticed a strange increase in libido. I have casual erections too.
Is this “normal” after a long cycle?
I have a better libido on 1-200mg of T than i do on 500+mg.
i can understand this.
But what i don’t understand is why after 1week off i have unsollecited erections (like when i was 18, i’m 32 now).
Also i have noticed that i’m pissing a lot in this 2 days (after 4 days of pct)… in the previous cycle (all around 8-12 weeks) i haven’t noticed this kind of “effects”
My libido drops a little going off.
Not by much, I don’t want to fuck EVERYTHING all the time, but I still want to fuck ALOT of girls almost all the time.
But even naturally my libido is on the higher side compared to alot of guys I know…I don’t know if that’s a high testosterone production thing specifically, may just be brain chemistry, not hugged enough as a child…who knows.
Anyways:
If you used HCG during the cycle the recovery time is almost non-existent unless your using something that isn’t a test derivative, aka deca and the like.
In my experience for the first 5 weeks or so with test, sex drive is explosive, it kind of settles down as you near the end of the cycle.
Ive never noticed any significant differences with different amounts of test, sex drive is kinda hard to quantify past a certain point.
Sex drive feels about the same on 300mg as it does on 1000mg. Either way its definitely nearing annoyance levels.
I can easily feel the difference between 300 and a gram, just not in my sex drive.
The only time I have personally ever experienced serious libido loss was my own fault, and it was on cycle, and its because I was playing around with my letro dose, and overdosed myself by measuring wrong.
It is possibly to tank your estrogen on a gram of test and HCG among other things.
You have to be stupid, but its doable, I can personally guarantee that.
" You have to be stupid, but its doable, I can personally guarantee that. "
that one just cracked me up.
I’m using letro 0.25 EOD for 4-5 wks. I’m starting my PCT in 4 days. I have to admit I’m feeling lucky, I’ve yet to experience negative effects from the letro.
[quote]cadav wrote:
i can understand this.
But what i don’t understand is why after 1week off i have unsollecited erections (like when i was 18, i’m 32 now).
Also i have noticed that i’m pissing a lot in this 2 days (after 4 days of pct)… in the previous cycle (all around 8-12 weeks) i haven’t noticed this kind of “effects”[/quote]
The point was - it is likely the significantly lower hormone level. Dont worry, it wont last! lol!
Also, you need to drop water retained on cycle somehow - through the bladder is as good as any…
[quote]Westclock wrote:
My libido drops a little going off.
Not by much, I don’t want to fuck EVERYTHING all the time, but I still want to fuck ALOT of girls almost all the time.
But even naturally my libido is on the higher side compared to alot of guys I know…I don’t know if that’s a high testosterone production thing specifically, may just be brain chemistry, not hugged enough as a child…who knows.
Anyways:
If you used HCG during the cycle the recovery time is almost non-existent unless your using something that isn’t a test derivative, aka deca and the like.
In my experience for the first 5 weeks or so with test, sex drive is explosive, it kind of settles down as you near the end of the cycle.
Ive never noticed any significant differences with different amounts of test, sex drive is kinda hard to quantify past a certain point.
Sex drive feels about the same on 300mg as it does on 1000mg. Either way its definitely nearing annoyance levels.
I can easily feel the difference between 300 and a gram, just not in my sex drive.
The only time I have personally ever experienced serious libido loss was my own fault, and it was on cycle, and its because I was playing around with my letro dose, and overdosed myself by measuring wrong.
It is possibly to tank your estrogen on a gram of test and HCG among other things.
You have to be stupid, but its doable, I can personally guarantee that.[/quote]
You have to realise that your experiences are not indicative of all users of course… many men find libido is not significantly affected with exo androgens you know…
[quote]J-J wrote:
Westclock wrote:
My libido drops a little going off.
Not by much, I don’t want to fuck EVERYTHING all the time, but I still want to fuck ALOT of girls almost all the time.
But even naturally my libido is on the higher side compared to alot of guys I know…I don’t know if that’s a high testosterone production thing specifically, may just be brain chemistry, not hugged enough as a child…who knows.
Anyways:
If you used HCG during the cycle the recovery time is almost non-existent unless your using something that isn’t a test derivative, aka deca and the like.
In my experience for the first 5 weeks or so with test, sex drive is explosive, it kind of settles down as you near the end of the cycle.
Ive never noticed any significant differences with different amounts of test, sex drive is kinda hard to quantify past a certain point.
Sex drive feels about the same on 300mg as it does on 1000mg. Either way its definitely nearing annoyance levels.
I can easily feel the difference between 300 and a gram, just not in my sex drive.
The only time I have personally ever experienced serious libido loss was my own fault, and it was on cycle, and its because I was playing around with my letro dose, and overdosed myself by measuring wrong.
It is possibly to tank your estrogen on a gram of test and HCG among other things.
You have to be stupid, but its doable, I can personally guarantee that.
You have to realise that your experiences are not indicative of all users of course… many men find libido is not significantly affected with exo androgens you know…[/quote]
Mine goes up enough to be noticed, but once I reach 300-400mg/week which isn’t that much, it feels the same as anything above that…500-1000, etc.
Basically in my experience…it tops out pretty quickly.
But yes I realize libido is a pretty subjective thing, and that different guys feel differently while on, estrogen levels should probably also be taken into account.
If anything I probably run with my estrogen borderline too low just because I like it lower…some guys will settle for merely controlling estrogen and keeping it moderate.
[quote]cadav wrote:
Hi all!
this year i was on a very long cycle (feb-september), composed by cruising and blasting…
Now after 5 weeks of “tapering” (TE 500 then 250 then 125 weekly) and 1 at zero i have started PCT wirh nolva (20 ED).
I have noticed a strange increase in libido. I have casual erections too.
Is this “normal” after a long cycle?[/quote]
I am 42 and I would say that spontaneous erections are normal. I have just began to recover from a cycle - it has taken me 12 -weeks and my marker of “being normal” again is that I am getting these spontaneous erections
I am sorry but how can anyone say what is normal for Cadav as in frequency of erections?! more to the point - how the hell do YOU know…?
Cadav - why dont you know yet if erections at x frequency is normal? 
Tamoxifen is really very effective at increasing T output and i would expect that it is that (it does it to me when i am physiologically prepped), keep it up (sorry!) for the full 4-6 weeks and come off (taper) the Tamox… hopefully you will have just a short dip in erections.
I did not suggest what was the normal frequency of erection for anybody anywhere in the post - what I did suggest was that spontaneous erections are a normal occurrence in healthy men of any age whose HPTA is operating at a reasonable level and are not limited to adolescents and young men.
He is unlikely to have a fully functioning HPTA.
If he is having spontaneous erections can t be that bad?
Well… tell him to stop the SERM now then and see…
[quote]Westclock wrote:
J-J wrote:
Westclock wrote:
My libido drops a little going off.
Not by much, I don’t want to fuck EVERYTHING all the time, but I still want to fuck ALOT of girls almost all the time.
But even naturally my libido is on the higher side compared to alot of guys I know…I don’t know if that’s a high testosterone production thing specifically, may just be brain chemistry, not hugged enough as a child…who knows.
Anyways:
If you used HCG during the cycle the recovery time is almost non-existent unless your using something that isn’t a test derivative, aka deca and the like.
In my experience for the first 5 weeks or so with test, sex drive is explosive, it kind of settles down as you near the end of the cycle.
Ive never noticed any significant differences with different amounts of test, sex drive is kinda hard to quantify past a certain point.
Sex drive feels about the same on 300mg as it does on 1000mg. Either way its definitely nearing annoyance levels.
I can easily feel the difference between 300 and a gram, just not in my sex drive.
The only time I have personally ever experienced serious libido loss was my own fault, and it was on cycle, and its because I was playing around with my letro dose, and overdosed myself by measuring wrong.
It is possibly to tank your estrogen on a gram of test and HCG among other things.
You have to be stupid, but its doable, I can personally guarantee that.
You have to realise that your experiences are not indicative of all users of course… many men find libido is not significantly affected with exo androgens you know…
Mine goes up enough to be noticed, but once I reach 300-400mg/week which isn’t that much, it feels the same as anything above that…500-1000, etc.
Basically in my experience…it tops out pretty quickly.
But yes I realize libido is a pretty subjective thing, and that different guys feel differently while on, estrogen levels should probably also be taken into account.
If anything I probably run with my estrogen borderline too low just because I like it lower…some guys will settle for merely controlling estrogen and keeping it moderate.
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Westclock, your description, this post and the one before it, pretty much exactly mirrors my own experience. In fact, I cannot find a single difference in it.