Going Banana's in '09

Training Training Logs
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07.30 Wake up

08.00
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi
1 beroroca

08.15 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs

9.00 - 17.00 Work

11.00 MEAL 2
1 hot dog sausage
4 fish oil

13.00 MEAL 3
1 hot dog sausage
4 fish oil
2 thermopure

16.45
1 Spike tab

17.00 MEAL 4
Whey/casein shake
5g BCAA
5g CEE
3g Beta analine

17.10 GYM

Cleans
60kg x5
80kg x5
85kg x5
90kg 2x3

Hang Snatch
50kg x5
55kg x5
60kg x3
65kg x3

Front Squat
60kg x5
80kg 2x5
85kg x5
90kg x3
95kg x3
100kg x3

Power Shrug from knees
110kg x8
130kg x5
150kg x5
170kg x5

Preacher Curls
17.5kg DB x5,5
15kg DB x5,5

During
15g BCAA
1 tin of diet red bull

18.30 MEAL 5
Whey/Casein shake
10g BCAA
5g CEE
3g Beta analine

4 fish oil

21.30 MEAL 6
100g Chicken

22.30 MEAL 7
casein shake
4 fish oil
3 ZMA

23.00 Bed

Cals 1830
Carbs 8
Protein 195
Fat 110

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Dude, what the fuck?

If you can’t eat your planned diet, or even train, that doesn’t mean you need to pig out - meat, veggies, and spuds? Drop the spuds, eat the meat and veggies and you woulda been fine, as long as it was truly meat and veggies and not meat covered in sauce and veggies covered in oil all washed down with beer and ice cream.

As it is, you’ve put 2.5 inches on your waist in that amount of time?

If you keep letting shit sidetrack you like this, you will never reach your physique goals.

I’m hoping that measurement is the result of water bloat and having been measured at a different time of day…because if not, you’ve taken 1 step forward, 5 steps back.

Shit happens. As long as you don’t overeat, no matter what you’re eating, you won’t do much damage.

In fact, look at this experience and then ask yourself - why are you trying to get lean in the first place? Even if you DO get there, with the way you handle setbacks, I have little faith in you being able to maintain your new level of leanness for any more than a couple weeks.

The way I see it, if you reach your goals, you’ll most likely celebrate, that’ll do some damage. You’ll then focus on gaining again, and most likely you’ll overdo it too quickly and within 2 weeks to one month POST-diet, you will be back to your current bodyfat percentage.

If you don’t get a handle on your food intake, you’ll never be able to maintain a decent physique, even if you DO lose that fat - and at the rate you’re going, you’re not gonna get there.

You sound like your already know this…but here it is June and you’ve done jack shit - and in fact, had you spent the past 6 months gaining strength/size and not attempting-to-diet, you would be bigger and a lot stronger than you are now, too. So you’ve lost the potential muscle gains without having fat loss to show for it.

Clock is tickin’ dude.

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[quote]NewDamage wrote:
Dude, what the fuck?

If you can’t eat your planned diet, or even train, that doesn’t mean you need to pig out - meat, veggies, and spuds? Drop the spuds, eat the meat and veggies and you woulda been fine, as long as it was truly meat and veggies and not meat covered in sauce and veggies covered in oil all washed down with beer and ice cream.

As it is, you’ve put 2.5 inches on your waist in that amount of time?

If you keep letting shit sidetrack you like this, you will never reach your physique goals.

I’m hoping that measurement is the result of water bloat and having been measured at a different time of day…because if not, you’ve taken 1 step forward, 5 steps back.

Shit happens. As long as you don’t overeat, no matter what you’re eating, you won’t do much damage.

In fact, look at this experience and then ask yourself - why are you trying to get lean in the first place? Even if you DO get there, with the way you handle setbacks, I have little faith in you being able to maintain your new level of leanness for any more than a couple weeks.

The way I see it, if you reach your goals, you’ll most likely celebrate, that’ll do some damage. You’ll then focus on gaining again, and most likely you’ll overdo it too quickly and within 2 weeks to one month POST-diet, you will be back to your current bodyfat percentage.

If you don’t get a handle on your food intake, you’ll never be able to maintain a decent physique, even if you DO lose that fat - and at the rate you’re going, you’re not gonna get there.

You sound like your already know this…but here it is June and you’ve done jack shit - and in fact, had you spent the past 6 months gaining strength/size and not attempting-to-diet, you would be bigger and a lot stronger than you are now, too. So you’ve lost the potential muscle gains without having fat loss to show for it.

Clock is tickin’ dude.[/quote]

I really have no reply to this. Apart from you are pretty much spot on.

Dont worry, im feeling the shame and embarrassment right now. Its fucking hurting.

Scott

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As usual NewDamage is spot on. You know it and I know it. It takes a special attitude to get where you want to be. You keep setting yourself up for falls… If it was easy everybody would be “jacked” with 6 packs. On the other hand you’ve shown potential so I’m particularly frustrated.

It’s up to you Scott.

Gary

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Fucking brutal post by NewDamage, but so true. Get your nose to the motherfucking grindstone and get it done!

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i remeasured my waist upon waking and it was just over 40 inchs. so hopefully those numbers and pics are the result of bloat.

ive been knocking back about 4-5 berorca tablets a day. each one give about 400% vit c and vit B. Could this be the culprit?

Also as all the fat seems to have gone to my body and by pased the my arms, shoulders etc, im assuming this says something about my insulin sensitivity? I also pretty much stopped my fish oil intake over the past week.

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07.45 Wake up

08.00
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi
1 beroroca

08.15 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs
5mg serg

13.00 MEAL 2
100g chicken
4 fish oil
2 thermopure

15.00 MEAL 3
100g chicken

18.10 MEAL 4
whey/casein shake
5g Beta analine
5g CEE
10g BCAA

17.15 GYM

HAD TO WAIT 20 MINS FOR A FUCKING RACK. DID SOME SHOULDER PREHAB

Overhead Press
60kg x8
80kg x5
90kg 3x5
100kg x3
100kg x2

Snatch Drop Squats.
40kg x5
45kg x5
50kg 2x5

“Viper Cleans” - Clean grip muscle power snatch
40kg x10
50kg x8
60kg 3x5

Tricep Press downs
8 x8

Cross trainer
20mins fat burn.

19.45 MEAL 5
whey shake
10g BCAA
5g CEE
1.5g beta analine

4 fishoil

20.45 MEAL 6
1 tin of tuna
mayo

4 fish oil

22.00 MEAL 7
1/2 casein shake
10g BCAA

4 fishoil
3 ZMA

22.30 BED

Cals 1650
Carbs 8.7
Protein 200
Fat 85

Timing of food is fucking awful. But im back on track with a vengence.

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06.45 Wake up

07.00
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi

07.30 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs

12.00 MEAL 2
100g Chicken

17.00 MEAL 3
1 hot dog sausage

4 fish oil

21.30 MEAL 4
1 hot dog sausage
4 fish oil

23.00 Meal 5
1 Hot dog sausage

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Try to get some green vegetables in that diet there dude.

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[quote]NewDamage wrote:
Try to get some green vegetables in that diet there dude.[/quote]

first on my shopping list next time i shop.

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
NewDamage wrote:
Try to get some green vegetables in that diet there dude.

first on my shopping list next time i shop.[/quote]

Good deal. Can you get Superfood from Biotest? Not sure what the shipping and customs and all that crap is like, but with limited food choices and low veggie consumption, something like Superfood would be an ideal addition to what you’re doing. (though, really, because of what it contains, everyone should be on it.)

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Its all go right now… i just finished a week of 9-5/6 in the office, 5/6-7/8pm in the gym and then working 9-1am in the pub. Ive been somehow getting dates with my new hot love interest in aswell.

Since i have literally no time to do food prep etc, my diet has resembled something like this.

Wake up
Meal 1
3 boiled eggs

4 fish oil
2 thermopure
multi
berorca

Meal 2
casein shake
10g BCAA
1.5g Beta analine

4 fishoil

Meal 3
whey/casein shake
10g BCAA
5g Beta analine
2.5g CEE

4 fishoil
2 thermopure

GYM

Meal 4
Whey Shake
10g BCAA
5g CEE
1.5g Beta analine

4 fishoil

Meal 5
Solid Food - tuna or some other meat low carb meat.

Meal 6
Whey/casein shake
10g BCAA
Meal 6
casein shake

4 fishoil
3 ZMA
Bed

In the last few days i have added in some tribulis, 2 with meal 1 and 2 with meal 6. Ive noticed a decrease in some stuff that could be attributed to lowering test. and ive been having fuck all sleep. I got the same tribulis i used a few years ago. When i used it then i noticed definite “symptoms” of increases test - increased achne, increased focus/anger in gym and more wood. So i hope adding it in will help me in the next week of 60 hours of work. After this week coming i will be dropping my second job to maybe one shift a week to leave me more time to sleep and prepare stuff. I know that is basically a Vdiet Lite with one extra meal but its the easiest and best way for me right now to gurantee i dont eat junk from take aways etc.

On to the update, my camera is broke but im working on borrowing one. Im weighing 116kg, all my lifts are back up or very near to what they were the week before i had that really good week of cutting.

Last time
Waist 42
Chest 44
Shoulders 51
Bicep 16.5 inch
Top of thigh - 29inch
Bottom of thigh 22.5

Today
Waist 40 2 inch loss
Chest 43 1 inch loss
Shoulders 50 1 inch loss
Bicep 16.5 inch - same but look a lot more defined i think
Top of thigh - 27.5 - 1.5 inch loss
Bottom of thigh 20.5 - 2 inch loss

Im liking the looks of those number. Now to find a camera…

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A friend came through with a camera… Yass.

Last time.

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ok i see no difference, although the scales, measurements and weights are moving in the right directions…

Lets keep this crazy train moving.

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No solid food today so far, and one of the best gym sessions ive had in a while

70kg snatch

105kg power clean

90kg clean and press x2

60kg overhead squat x5

Not bad.

Couple of tins of tuna and then a shake before bed.

461

Are you following the lions?? what you reckon?

“no solid food today so far…” why dont you just do the V diet lol.

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[quote]-ironman- wrote:
Are you following the lions?? what you reckon?

“no solid food today so far…” why dont you just do the V diet lol.[/quote]

Aye course i am… We should have won on sat.

I would but i cant afford all the neccesary, and i got a comp in august, so im going to have to get as much solid food in as possible. Althought liquid food is so much quicker and convienint.

Scott