Going Banana's in '09

Training Training Logs
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11.30 Wake up

12.00
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi

12.30 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs

14.00 MEAL 2
100g Chicken

16.00 MEAL 3
100g Chicken
4 fish oil

17.00 MEAL 4
whey/casein shake
10g BCAA
5g CEE
3g Bet analine

4 fish oil
2 thermopure

17.10 GYM
Overhead Press#
60kg x8
80kg x5
90kg 2x5

Clean + Press
80kg x1
90kg x1
95kg x1 - shit technique on the press but a PR

80kg x2
90kg x1 - better technique

Dan Johns Complex A
Row → Hang Clean → Front squat → Military Press → Back Squat
42.5kg 5x8 - brutal, think i missed a few reps here and there. I need to get someone to count for me.

Overhead Squat ATG (paused)
40kg 2x5

Zercher Squats - From just above knee
80kg x5
100kg x3
120kg x2
130kg x1
150kg x1 - New PR and i reckon i have LOADS left in the tank. like 170-180 could have went but there was guys patiently waiting for the rack and i had been using it for about 45 mins.

Cross Trainer
25mins fat burn - 2.5 mins warm up, 2.5 mins cool down

10mins level 6, 2 mins level 7, finished in level 8. 3.3miles

18.50 MEAL 5
Whey Shake
10g BCAA
5g CEE
1.5g Beta analine

4 fishoil

19.45 MEAL 6
tin of tuna
mayo

20.45 MEAL 7
Whey/casein shake
10g BCAA

21.00-23.30 Working (NEPA)

00.00 MEAL 8
Casein shake
10g BCAA

4 fish oil
3 ZMA

01.00 BED

Cals 1700
Carbs 11.3
Fat 58.9
Protein 260

Holy fuck, is that enough calories/fat… or am i going too low?

I feel full as fuck on all that food. 100g of plain chicken is becoming a “filling” meal. Should i be worried that im eating too little or is this ok?

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all that food is only 1700 cals?

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[quote]jbird643 wrote:
all that food is only 1700 cals? [/quote]

yea…

200g plain chicken, 4 shakes, 1 tin of tuna, 2 tblspoons of mayo. 4 medium boiled eggs.

the shakes, chicken and tuna i have inputted the labels to fitday myself. the eggs and mayo are fitdays own calculations

Scott

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In that case, I’d say 1700 is o.k., provided you don’t keep it up for too long. The pics this weekend will probably be a better indication of your energy requirements.

Newdamage knows way more than me on this subject (look at his avatar, the guy is ripped and has a lot of LBM), so ND what do you think about Scott’s caloric intake? For that matter, Intersweat got down to 8% BF in 4 months, so what do you think about it?
-J

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I played for N.Ireland snooker team. Played pool semi-professionally in the late 80’s early 90’s. You sure you still fancy it… To be honest haven’t played seriously in a few years.

;o)

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[quote] For that matter, Intersweat got down to 8% BF in 4 months, so what do you think about it?
-J[/quote]
I like the look of it. I think Scott has genuinely got his diet/training head on. The low carbs should work though the cals are really on the low side for a big lad with so much training.

Scott… I have faith that you will suss all of this out very soon. As others have said you could/should have made more progress by now probably but I see big improvements over the next few weeks if you keep showing this attitude.

Good luck
G

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[quote]Intersweat wrote:
For that matter, Intersweat got down to 8% BF in 4 months, so what do you think about it?
-J
I like the look of it. I think Scott has genuinely got his diet/training head on. The low carbs should work though the cals are really on the low side for a big lad with so much training.

Scott… I have faith that you will suss all of this out very soon. As others have said you could/should have made more progress by now probably but I see big improvements over the next few weeks if you keep showing this attitude.

Good luck
G

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Cheers G.

I should be nearing comp shape by now… :D, but im not and as dave tate loves, its my bad.

If my gym peroformance/energy levels drop noticibly then ill up the cals a bit but im trying to keep carbs below 15g. so it would likily be another tin of tuna or 100g more of tuna.

No hunger pangs to note today. no brain fog, good energy levels in gym… so its all good so far.

Cheers
Scott

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[quote]Intersweat wrote:
For that matter, Intersweat got down to 8% BF in 4 months, so what do you think about it?
-J
I like the look of it. I think Scott has genuinely got his diet/training head on. The low carbs should work though the cals are really on the low side for a big lad with so much training.

Scott… I have faith that you will suss all of this out very soon. As others have said you could/should have made more progress by now probably but I see big improvements over the next few weeks if you keep showing this attitude.

Good luck
G

[/quote]

Agreed - you might bump the fat intake up maybe 20-30 grams but otherwise looks pretty good.

I’d ride it out as long as you can and if you start to feel completely deflated maybe we can devise a controlled refeed - but go with the flow for now, with just a tad more fat in my opinion.

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[quote]NewDamage wrote:
Intersweat wrote:
For that matter, Intersweat got down to 8% BF in 4 months, so what do you think about it?
-J
I like the look of it. I think Scott has genuinely got his diet/training head on. The low carbs should work though the cals are really on the low side for a big lad with so much training.

Scott… I have faith that you will suss all of this out very soon. As others have said you could/should have made more progress by now probably but I see big improvements over the next few weeks if you keep showing this attitude.

Good luck
G

Agreed - you might bump the fat intake up maybe 20-30 grams but otherwise looks pretty good.

I’d ride it out as long as you can and if you start to feel completely deflated maybe we can devise a controlled refeed - but go with the flow for now, with just a tad more fat in my opinion.[/quote]

Ive been thinking… Im takeing in 20g of fish oil. and havnt included it in fitday or in my cal/carb/protein/fat breakdown… should i be?

Scott

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12.00 Wake up

12.15
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi
5mg seregiline - need to take this with my breakfast. Empty stomach plus thermogenics probably isnt helping the effects :frowning:

12.45 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs

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12.00 Wake up

12.15
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi
5mg seregiline - need to take this with my breakfast. Empty stomach plus thermogenics probably isnt helping the effects :frowning:

12.45 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs

15.30 MEAL 2
125g Chicken

4 fish oil

**MAJOR CHANGE OF PLAN, IVE JUST KIND OF HAD A FREAK OUT, IVE GOT AN EXAM WORTH 60% OF MY COURSE ON FRIDAY AND THATS ONLY 2 DAYS AWAY… I HAVNT REALLY DONE ANY WORK FOR IT. AND IVE JUST STARTED. SO IM PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET TO THE GYM TODAY AND MAYBE NOT TOMORROW, ALTHOUGH I MIGHT NEED A BREAK. IVE GOT THE FEAR AND ALONG WITH IT IVE GOT THE DRIVE TO REVISE FOR ONCE. SO IM GOING TO RIDE THAT ASLONG AS I CAN TONIGHT. MAJOR CRAM SESSION TODAY AND TOMORROW.

Since im not going to the gym, should i have all the same meals minus the PWO shake… which will leave me 200 calories down on yesterday or should i aim for the same amount of cals?

17.15 MEAL 3
125g Chicken

4 fish oil
2 thermopure

19.25 MEAL 4
1 tin of tuna
2 tblspoons mayo

4 fish oil

21.15 MEAL 5
1 hot dog sausage

21.30-22.45 Cinema

23.00 MEAL 6
3 boiled eggs
4 fish oil

01.30 MEAL 7
Casein shake
10g BCAA

4 fish oil
3 ZMA

Cals 1875
Fat 123
Carbs 6.7
Protein 175

Had some noticeable brain fog today… :frowning: will see how tomorrow pans out. Its manageable thou so far. No hunger pangs, maybe a slight lack of energy/motivation today. I will test my urine tomorrow again to see if im progressing in the right direction or not.
Tomorrow is a cram session for my exam on friday and ill also prepare my meals etc for when im away for the weekend. I bought some tubberware etc today in preparation.

Revision is going ok… I seem to be retaining stuff awful well from first read. Seems my brain is more of a sponge than ever. soaking it all up. All i need is 40%, my first two years at uni dont count towards my degree. So the bare minimum is acceptable in my opinion.

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[quote]Im takeing in 20g of fish oil. and havnt included it in fitday or in my cal/carb/protein/fat breakdown… should i be?
Scott[/quote]

Most definitely. It should add 180 cals.

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[quote]Intersweat wrote:
Im takeing in 20g of fish oil. and havnt included it in fitday or in my cal/carb/protein/fat breakdown… should i be?
Scott

Most definitely. It should add 180 cals.

[/quote]

Silly oversight by me then…

So im actually took in close to 1850 yesterday then.

Ill add it in from now on.

Scott

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just took a ketostix test.

got somewhere between 5mg/dl and 15mg/dl. Dont really know if thats good or not…??

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The ones I use have a little colour strip that reacts with urine. I take it yours do not?

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[quote]VikeSpike wrote:
The ones I use have a little colour strip that reacts with urine. I take it yours do not?
[/quote]

Aye… the colour was kind of in between the 5mg one and the 15mg one.

Scott

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13.00 Wake up

**Scales in my flat put me at 119.5kg before water or food etc. :smiley: there somtimes dodgy thou but its definitly a good sign I think.

13.15
2 thermopure
4 fish oil
1 multi
1 berrorca

13.30 MEAL 1
4 boiled eggs

16.15 MEAL 2
2 tins of tuna
mayo
4 fish oil
2 thermopure

19.00 MEAL 3
whey/casein shake
10g BCAA
5g CEE
3g Bet analine
4 fish oil

21.30 MEAL 4
100g Chicken
4 fish oil

23.30 MEAL 5
Casein shake
10g BCAA

4 fishoil
3ZMA

00.00 BED

Cals 1650
Carbs 8.2
Protein 190
Fat 90

Thats a bit low today aswell, but i didnt get up till 13.30 as i had a rough nights sleep. Probably through worry for the exams. I will onyl be awake for about 10 hours today so i suppose the low cals isnt that bad. Ill be up early tomorrow to review my work before my exam and i also need to get lots of sleep as the next few days my sleep quality and quantity will decrease severely.

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
just took a ketostix test.

got somewhere between 5mg/dl and 15mg/dl. Dont really know if thats good or not…??

[/quote]

That’s a good thing. As long as you have Ketones present in your Urine, it’s a good thing.

But you don’t want too high a reading, because the darker pink, red and dark red colours could indicate Ketoacidosis, which is what type 1 diabetics have.

As long as it’s in the first few colours your all good.

Did you get the one’s on the site I sent you a link for? Or from somewhere else?

LR

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na i got them in boots. £4.95 for 50 strips.

Cheers for the info on ketones. Im probably going to check it daily or maybe twice so i know whats going on.

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Coloured Tubberware:
4 x125g Chicken

Other tubberware:
3 scoops whey
3 scoops casein
20g BCAA
5g CEE

Pill boxs:
40 fish oil
2 multi
5mg seregiline
8 thermopure
6 ZMA

Thats me sorted for 6 meals for my trip down to newcastle.

Should look something like this:

4.00pm Exam finish

4.30pm Get on Train

4.30pm MEAL
125g Chicken
4 fishoil
2 thermopure

19.00 MEAL
125g chicken
4 fish oil

~ 20.30 Arrive in newcastle

22.00 MEAL
whey/casein shake
4 fish oil

22.00-03.00 Partying etc etc

03.00 MEAL
Whey/casein shake
4 fish oil
3 ZMA

04.00 - 10.00 Sleep

10.30 MEAL
125g Chicken
4 fish oil
multi
2 thermopure

13.00 MEAL
125g Chicken
4 fish oil

14.00 Train back to glasgow

15.30 MEAL
Whey/Casein shake
4 fish oil
2 thermopure

18.00 Arrive Glasgow

Something along those lines… As long as i dont cave in and eat shit or worse drink i will be happy. :smiley:

Scott