Wow, micheal abernathy is our first psychic to visit the forum. lets rebutt, shall we? 1st, i am a lifetime drug free bodybuilder. so the break from the steroids would be kind of useless. 2nd, before i posted, i got all the info i could on licorice root. a small amount can reduce T levels by over 30%, with almost as much of an increase in estrogen. its primary use is menopausal and post menopausal women to make them feel womanly again. regarding my crying, and breasts, these were attempts to keep it light hearted, thanks for not reading between the lines. is that job at advanced genetics treating you pretty well? and since all of us regular gym goers, and bbers have access to the money and the indy lab, those assays should be forthcoming.