[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
If we compare apples to apples, I think it’s between the Glock models and polymer Sig p250 and sp2022 models. You can get the p250 and sp2022 for the same price or cheaper than most Glocks of comparable size and caliber. Glocks are def simpler but most would agree that the sig polymer models have a better trigger than the glock and better comfort and ergonomics. A sig right out of the box I’m happy with. Glock you’ll probably be changing the sights and other accessories which is going to up the price even more.
Really comes down to personal preference. Both are great reliable guns that you can trust your life with. [/quote]
The sig Sp2022 is a great gun especially for the money. Get the quality of a sig for half the price.
Another option to look at is the Cz 75. It comes in a manual safety model or a decocker model. Great which many other guns have modeled their frame after.
I am really thinking large caliber wheel guns (.357) are where it is “at.”
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Fortunately, I’ve never been in a gunfight, but I know and have read from people who HAVE. [/quote]
Well, I have been in gunfights. The first rule to a gun fight is “have a gun.”
I have multiple side arms, and carry the largest, highest capacity pistol I can carry depending on my clothing and the laws of the jurisdiction I am in. Revolvers are often all that can be carried or concealed. It’s just the way it is.
But yes, I do agree with you, a pistol is what you use to fight to get to your rifle. Unless you get really good shot placement, a pistol just makes someone bleed.
I am really thinking large caliber wheel guns (.357) are where it is “at.”
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Fortunately, I’ve never been in a gunfight, but I know and have read from people who HAVE. [/quote]
Well, I have been in gunfights. The first rule to a gun fight is “have a gun.”
I have multiple side arms, and carry the largest, highest capacity pistol I can carry depending on my clothing and the laws of the jurisdiction I am in. Revolvers are often all that can be carried or concealed. It’s just the way it is.
But yes, I do agree with you, a pistol is what you use to fight to get to your rifle. Unless you get really good shot placement, a pistol just makes someone bleed.
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I am really thinking large caliber wheel guns (.357) are where it is “at.”
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Fortunately, I’ve never been in a gunfight, but I know and have read from people who HAVE. [/quote]
Well, I have been in gunfights. The first rule to a gun fight is “have a gun.”
I have multiple side arms, and carry the largest, highest capacity pistol I can carry depending on my clothing and the laws of the jurisdiction I am in. Revolvers are often all that can be carried or concealed. It’s just the way it is.
But yes, I do agree with you, a pistol is what you use to fight to get to your rifle. Unless you get really good shot placement, a pistol just makes someone bleed.
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gunfight(S)…Damn dude.
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To clarify: in Judea, Samaria, arguably a bit of Syria (depending on where one is drawing the border that day), and Lebanon. Wearing a uniform.
IMO, this is a stupid invention and only makes sense on guns where engineering a complicated trigger mechanism is more difficult, like small or cheap ones. If you have a malfunction, tap then rack.
There’s also nothing easier to maintain than a Glock. A trained monkey could take it apart and put it back together.
[quote]theuofh wrote:
My addition: Why do you want DAK?
IMO, this is a stupid invention and only makes sense on guns where engineering a complicated trigger mechanism is more difficult, like small or cheap ones. If you have a malfunction, tap then rack.
There’s also nothing easier to maintain than a Glock. A trained monkey could take it apart and put it back together. [/quote]
[quote]theuofh wrote:
My addition: Why do you want DAK?
IMO, this is a stupid invention and only makes sense on guns where engineering a complicated trigger mechanism is more difficult, like small or cheap ones. If you have a malfunction, tap then rack.
There’s also nothing easier to maintain than a Glock. A trained monkey could take it apart and put it back together. [/quote]
My job requires all fireams to be DA only.[/quote]
I have a G22, 226, and 220. They all shoot very good and are quality guns. I have carried the 220 and G22 with no issues. My preference for a carry gun is the glock. It’s light, easy to manage and the size isn’t that bad. I also prefer to have something as simple as possible when it comes to saving my life. They are both very easy to field strip for regular maintenance. I have taken a sig 229 completely down to a stripped frame, not that hard but it does take a while.
I like sigs a lot and wouldn’t advise against getting one, I just don’t think they make a better carry gun than a glock. I am starting to like a striker fired over hammer now so I am developing a bias.
Would love to get a glock 19 but in my awesome state they aren’t available for sale unless made prior to 1998. A 19 goes for around 600-800, and that is a used one made prior to 1998.
Would love to get a glock 19 but in my awesome state they aren’t available for sale unless made prior to 1998. A 19 goes for around 600-800, and that is a used one made prior to 1998.[/quote]
The gun or the 15 round mags must be made before 1998? I don’t understand what the guns “birthday” has anything to do with anything.
Sorry you live in communist america… It TRULY breaks my heart to think that I served 6 years of my young life in the military protecting this place only to have shit like this come about.
EDIT = My Google-fu, sadly confirmed your story. That’s about some fucked up shit as I’ve ever heard. “America” had better wake the fuck up or we’re definitely going down the drain…
Would love to get a glock 19 but in my awesome state they aren’t available for sale unless made prior to 1998. A 19 goes for around 600-800, and that is a used one made prior to 1998.[/quote]
The gun or the 15 round mags must be made before 1998? I don’t understand what the guns “birthday” has anything to do with anything.
Sorry you live in communist america… It TRULY breaks my heart to think that I served 6 years of my young life in the military protecting this place only to have shit like this come about.
EDIT = My Google-fu, sadly confirmed your story. That’s about some fucked up shit as I’ve ever heard. “America” had better wake the fuck up or we’re definitely going down the drain…
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Well, sadly that’s what his and my state have voted for. Power to the people.
Would love to get a glock 19 but in my awesome state they aren’t available for sale unless made prior to 1998. A 19 goes for around 600-800, and that is a used one made prior to 1998.[/quote]
The gun or the 15 round mags must be made before 1998? I don’t understand what the guns “birthday” has anything to do with anything.
Sorry you live in communist america… It TRULY breaks my heart to think that I served 6 years of my young life in the military protecting this place only to have shit like this come about.
EDIT = My Google-fu, sadly confirmed your story. That’s about some fucked up shit as I’ve ever heard. “America” had better wake the fuck up or we’re definitely going down the drain…
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The gun has to be made prior to 1998 due to the AG regulations. We have two lists that a gun must be on for a resident to purchase. They can be approved in MA, but for an FFL to legally sell them they must meet the requirements put out for “public safety”. BS like a loaded chamber indicator and a 40lb trigger. These were basically regulations put in to substitute for laws that they could not get to pass.
Magazines have to be manufactured prior to 1994. If you want something other than a 10 rd magazine for a glock you need to try and find one and then pay about 40-50 dollars for a used magazine. You will then no doubt have to replace the spring, follower, or both because there is usually a reason someone decided to sell it. If you want something that came out after that 1998 date you will never get a magazine over 10 rds for it as pre 1994 magazines don’t exist.
As for not understanding the laws, welcome to the club.
PS - thank you for your service. A lot of people are fleeing the state because they see it as a lost cause, some of us are staying to fight and restore the state to it’s former glory. Unfortunately we are grossly outnumbered.
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
Which do you think is the better semi? Pros/cons. I have a Gen 3 G19 and thinking about getting a Sig P226 DAK.
Which do you think is more reliable. easier to maintain, more practical.
I personally feel that the Sig fits my hand much better.[/quote]
I actually sold my glock (23?, the full size .45acp) because it was bulky in my hands and I torqued it really bad. Didn’t get a chance to shoot a sig so I can help you there. Shot the Glock 19 as well, didn’t do as well with it either on follow up shots, never really nailed this down as at the time I had very little pistol experience. The Springfield XD got the nod for me, just over the Smith and Wesson M&P. Trigger was a little heavy on the M&P for me but that could easily be rectified.
PS - thank you for your service. A lot of people are fleeing the state because they see it as a lost cause, some of us are staying to fight and restore the state to it’s former glory. Unfortunately we are grossly outnumbered.[/quote]
No problem man, Stay in the fight as long as you can bear it. When / IF the time comes, TN welcomes you.
PS - thank you for your service. A lot of people are fleeing the state because they see it as a lost cause, some of us are staying to fight and restore the state to it’s former glory. Unfortunately we are grossly outnumbered.[/quote]
No problem man, Stay in the fight as long as you can bear it. When / IF the time comes, TN welcomes you.
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Interesting you should say that. My wife wants to head south for retirement and I have been looking at TN. It is very high on my list…retirement is also very far away though.
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
Which do you think is the better semi? Pros/cons. I have a Gen 3 G19 and thinking about getting a Sig P226 DAK.
Which do you think is more reliable. easier to maintain, more practical.
I personally feel that the Sig fits my hand much better.[/quote]
I actually sold my glock (23?, the full size .45acp) because it was bulky in my hands and I torqued it really bad. Didn’t get a chance to shoot a sig so I can help you there. Shot the Glock 19 as well, didn’t do as well with it either on follow up shots, never really nailed this down as at the time I had very little pistol experience. The Springfield XD got the nod for me, just over the Smith and Wesson M&P. Trigger was a little heavy on the M&P for me but that could easily be rectified. [/quote]
The full-size 45 is a 21. Not that it really matters. I have one and took me a bit to get used to the grip but I shoot it great. All good guns and really just comes down to preference. I prefer the M&p’s over the Springfield XD. Not a fan of the backstrap safety and the grip of the M&P feels much better to me. I dig the look of the M&Ps over the Glock and XD too. Not that it matters functionally, but for something that is $500+ I prefer to like how it looks if at all possible.
I’m partial to the sig. I’ve worked with and own a 226 (DA/SA). Where I’m from, SOF guys use 226 mostly. As far as glock goes, they just don’t feel right in my hands. Funny enough to me it’s too light… Unless you put the 33rds mags which I don’t think is very practical. Glock is still a reliable gun. I got big hands so I had to put some hogues grips on my pistols. We also had the 15 rds mags and the 20rds mags. Those were our secondary weapons. Using a AR type of weapon system as primary. Never had to use the secondary in real life situation so I can’t tell about the issues mentionned from other guys.
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
Which do you think is the better semi? Pros/cons. I have a Gen 3 G19 and thinking about getting a Sig P226 DAK.
Which do you think is more reliable. easier to maintain, more practical.
I personally feel that the Sig fits my hand much better.[/quote]
I actually sold my glock (23?, the full size .45acp) because it was bulky in my hands and I torqued it really bad. Didn’t get a chance to shoot a sig so I can help you there. Shot the Glock 19 as well, didn’t do as well with it either on follow up shots, never really nailed this down as at the time I had very little pistol experience. The Springfield XD got the nod for me, just over the Smith and Wesson M&P. Trigger was a little heavy on the M&P for me but that could easily be rectified. [/quote]
The full-size 45 is a 21. Not that it really matters. I have one and took me a bit to get used to the grip but I shoot it great. All good guns and really just comes down to preference. I prefer the M&p’s over the Springfield XD. Not a fan of the backstrap safety and the grip of the M&P feels much better to me. I dig the look of the M&Ps over the Glock and XD too. Not that it matters functionally, but for something that is $500+ I prefer to like how it looks if at all possible. [/quote]
Yeah, the grip on the M&P was the best feeling to me of any double stack that I picked up, I just hated the trigger. And I should have said that I got the XD Tac which I liked much better than the regular XD in every way.