It seems this guy fell of the face of the earth. He had the raw bench record before Scott Mendelson.
No arch, single ply, flat feet, elbows out - WTF!!!
I think he was the best bencher ever!
Jacked too!
Damn, nobody mentions him AT ALL…it also goes to show you while there is a general consensus on the right way to bench it also is highly individualized…thanks for posting…especially in the BSL forum
Definitely one of the greats. No way he’s the best ever though.
I would put Siamand Rahman well above him.
Spoto is above him with a legit 722 raw bench record.
I’d put Big James “Hollywood” Henderson over him too. In fact I think Henderson would still have the all time raw bench record if there had been anyone around at the time to challenge him and push him. The guy was basically in a league of his own.
I put Jeremy Hoornstra over this guy too.
pretty sure he’s wearing a bench shirt. so not raw.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Damn, nobody mentions him AT ALL…it also goes to show you while there is a general consensus on the right way to bench it also is highly individualized…thanks for posting…especially in the BSL forum[/quote]
Thanks!
If his diet was laid out correctly in Ironman ages ago, that guy ate a TON of food!
[quote]budreiser wrote:
pretty sure he’s wearing a bench shirt. so not raw.[/quote]
In that clip he had a shirt on. He held the raw bench record before Mendelson did. Anyway, in the clip shown, he’s likely wearing a singly ply polyester shirt, not a damn triple ply denim that a crew has to get on a guy and that has to coach the guy on some snail’s pace descent by shouting “belly up” and “down, down, down” (no offense to PL’ers here, but as a fan, I’m more fond of this style of doing things). The guy unracked the bar and pressed the damn thing and didn’t need a whole damn wind up and theatrics to plant his ass on the bench and go for it.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]budreiser wrote:
pretty sure he’s wearing a bench shirt. so not raw.[/quote]
In that clip he had a shirt on. He held the raw bench record before Mendelson did. Anyway, in the clip shown, he’s likely wearing a singly ply polyester shirt, not a damn triple ply denim that a crew has to get on a guy and that has to coach the guy on some snail’s pace descent by shouting “belly up” and “down, down, down” (no offense to PL’ers here, but as a fan, I’m more fond of this style of doing things). The guy unracked the bar and pressed the damn thing and didn’t need a whole damn wind up and theatrics to plant his ass on the bench and go for it. [/quote]
LOL
Dude, my friends and I joke all the time at the gym about the multi-ply bencher chant. It goes like this: “belly, belly, belly, tuck, tuck, tuck, TAKE IT TAKE IT TAKE IT!!!”
Superb musical taste.
Damn I didnt see his leg flex in the least, I don’t think he used them at all.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]budreiser wrote:
pretty sure he’s wearing a bench shirt. so not raw.[/quote]
In that clip he had a shirt on. He held the raw bench record before Mendelson did. Anyway, in the clip shown, he’s likely wearing a singly ply polyester shirt, not a damn triple ply denim that a crew has to get on a guy and that has to coach the guy on some snail’s pace descent by shouting “belly up” and “down, down, down” (no offense to PL’ers here, but as a fan, I’m more fond of this style of doing things). The guy unracked the bar and pressed the damn thing and didn’t need a whole damn wind up and theatrics to plant his ass on the bench and go for it. [/quote]
LOL
Dude, my friends and I joke all the time at the gym about the multi-ply bencher chant. It goes like this: “belly, belly, belly, tuck, tuck, tuck, TAKE IT TAKE IT TAKE IT!!!”[/quote]
Oh yeah? What about yelling “back, back, back” for canvas suit assisted squats.
This is more what I’m into.
I don’t even know why anyone would watch powerlifting in the first place. It’s terribly boring.
EDIT: That being said, never even knew about Chabot. Thanks for bringing him up.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
This is more what I’m into.
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Holy shit is that a really young Marty Gallagher getting Karwoski psyched up in the background???
Brick, I find it hard to argue a 722 raw (like, actually raw) from Spoto being worse than Chabot’s 722 in a shirt (even if it was a thin, old, weak, single ply shirt he didn’t much out of.) But that’s just me.
Also, let me say that I agree with you that multi-ply lifting has gotten way out of hand in terms of gear, and this is coming from a multi-ply lifter. That said, I do think there’s an added degree of not only intensity, but FUN as well. I fucking love big lifts in gear whored-out gear. It’s just fun.
You’re clearly welcome to your opinion and I honestly don’t get riled up over people commenting on multi-ply lifting anymore, but I think quite a few of the people who’ve never tried gear would actually really enjoy using it. I also think a very small number of multi-ply hating comments come from raw guys who want to train in gear and are jealous that they don’t have the money/monolift/training partners to do so, but that’s beside the point.
Chabot was a beast, though!
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Brick, I find it hard to argue a 722 raw (like, actually raw) from Spoto being worse than Chabot’s 722 in a shirt (even if it was a thin, old, weak, single ply shirt he didn’t much out of.) But that’s just me.
Also, let me say that I agree with you that multi-ply lifting has gotten way out of hand in terms of gear, and this is coming from a multi-ply lifter. That said, I do think there’s an added degree of not only intensity, but FUN as well. I fucking love big lifts in gear whored-out gear. It’s just fun.
You’re clearly welcome to your opinion and I honestly don’t get riled up over people commenting on multi-ply lifting anymore, but I think quite a few of the people who’ve never tried gear would actually really enjoy using it. I also think a very small number of multi-ply hating comments come from raw guys who want to train in gear and are jealous that they don’t have the money/monolift/training partners to do so, but that’s beside the point.
Chabot was a beast, though! [/quote]
Good post.
I think I have a fan connection with Chabot because I read about him when I was young. Same goes for Nasser; he wasn’t the best ever, but when you read about these guys when very young, they make a huge, lasting impression. I remember reading about Chabot’s diet. One of his meals was something like 5 cans of tuna with a size of 6 oz of peanut butter and his breakfast was something like 12 egg whites and 5 slices of American cheese. I think his post workout meal as a pound of beef and a pound of potatoes. He could pack the food down yet still look very good (“supplements” help, lol).
I have nothing against geared lifting. One can’t take anything away from people like Andy Bolton and Donnie Thompson. I know you’re a hard worker and very disciplined yourself and take the whole thing very seriously.
When I was a wannabe powerlifter, I went to a bench seminar put on by Sebastian Burns of Metal Militia. I didn’t know I had mono at the time and thought I had the flu. They had me try on a shirt; forgot which kind. It felt bizarre and the pressure in my head and upper body was enormous, but the experience was fun.
It’s not that I don’t respect geared lifters; it’s just that I for some reason, though irrationally so, think that raw lifters are, uh, I dunno, more authentic, for lack of a better word. Again, could be totally irrational. but just the way I think of it in an emotional sense. I always got a kick out of guys swinging from chinning and Smith machine bars by the straps of their squat suits to get into the damn things. 
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
It’s not that I don’t respect geared lifters; it’s just that I for some reason, though irrationally so, think that raw lifters are, uh, I dunno, more authentic, for lack of a better word. Again, could be totally irrational. but just the way I think of it in an emotional sense.[/quote]
I dunno, I think that makes a lot of sense.
One has a tool and trains with a tool that allows them to do beyond what the mere human body itself can do. One is without a tool.
You can watch a car race and be impressed by what was done, between all the work of the engineers and crew and drivers. You can also watch a track race and appreciate the athletes.
Both are pinnacles of achievement, but I get more of an emotional effect out of the footrace.