Giving Up on Women

[quote]Waittz wrote:
What the fuck…

@walkway- this explains alot about your web persona. I do not mean this in a bad way, i really mean this the nicest way I can. Stop studying anabolics and go get your dick wet.
[/quote]

you make it sound like I haven’t had at least a half dozen opportunities…

in the last year

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
don’t worry about it OP, im 23 years old and still have my virginity [/quote]

Bull fucking shit.
[/quote]

that’s basically everyone’s response when they realize ive never had sex[/quote]

Why not then?[/quote]

I could write a book on this…

A)I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is freedom from pain and distraction. From what ive gathered by observing my male friends is… women bring both pain AND distraction… in abundance. They (my friends and males in general) are so ruled by pussy it’s comical… and disturbing… and pathetic… they stab each other in the back in efforts to obtain it. seems like a corrupting influence.

B)I don’t respect women in the slightest bit… or perhaps it would be more fair to say that ive never met a woman who was worthy of my respect. they are so foolish and impulsive… gluttons for punishment and abuse, they all but beg for pain… through my observation of women, I have become the most cynical person in history. They all appear to be similar in this regard. If anyone here knew my female friends, they would be just as cynical as me… I will go into detail if anyone is curious… it’s pretty wild, but provides a clear understanding of why I feel the way I do about women.

C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special?

D)I would definitely prefer to be married to a woman who hasn’t been fucked by dozens of guys… and if im going to have to have standards for what I want in someone else… I should meet them myself yes?

E)risk of STD’s… unplanned pregnancies…(I know 4 with STD’s, 1 has genital herpes, other has HIV, and I know 4 who have had unplanned pregnancies)

-girl feeling guilty about it later and claiming you raped her, landing you in jail or worse (happened to a friend of mine).

TL:DR It just doesn’t really seem worth it at this point in time. [/quote]

I think it’s unfair to base this on gender. Some people are just insecure assholes regardless of their plumbing. There are immature girls and there are ladies. I respect your point of view but I get the feeling you have been looking in the wrong places without even knowing it.[/quote]

well of course most of my guy friends are complete assholes to these girls, which is why they are so successful.

either way, emotional pain, unwanted babies/std’s etc… are enough to keep me away from women for the time being…im only 23 after all… with no emotional scars or baggage whatsoever… I might as well be 11 years old[/quote]

Judging by your posts in this thread I’d argue you have plenty of emotional scars and baggage, way more than most.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special? [/quote]

I don’t think being a virgin really symbolizes anything for a man. I guess that’s a double standard, but whatever. Women don’t prefer virgins anyhow (although I guess you’re not worried about that). There’s only an “innocent, pure, untainted” aspect to it if you’re a girl. Besides what guy wants to be those things? There are more and better ways to differentiate yourself and be “special”. For example not being a fat, weak piece of shit like most humans.
[/quote]

you would be surprised… women are always comparing themselves to other women, in every way imaginable. they know that a virgin guy has so sexual experience to recall, and therefore would not be comparing them to any woman he has already had… this means a lot to a girl if they are honest with themselves… they would enjoy the comfort of knowing that she is the best he has ever had, because she is the only he has ever had. That’s what I meant about exclusivity.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
What the fuck…

@walkway- this explains alot about your web persona. I do not mean this in a bad way, i really mean this the nicest way I can. Stop studying anabolics and go get your dick wet.
[/quote]

you make it sound like I haven’t had at least a half dozen opportunities…

in the last year[/quote]

Then next time you have the opportunity just put it in and play a game of tips, just to see if you like it.

Or keep preaching how your are holier than thou because you are pure and I am a dirty little slut.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
don’t worry about it OP, im 23 years old and still have my virginity [/quote]

Bull fucking shit.
[/quote]

that’s basically everyone’s response when they realize ive never had sex[/quote]

Why not then?[/quote]

I could write a book on this…

A)I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is freedom from pain and distraction. From what ive gathered by observing my male friends is… women bring both pain AND distraction… in abundance. They (my friends and males in general) are so ruled by pussy it’s comical… and disturbing… and pathetic… they stab each other in the back in efforts to obtain it. seems like a corrupting influence.

B)I don’t respect women in the slightest bit… or perhaps it would be more fair to say that ive never met a woman who was worthy of my respect. they are so foolish and impulsive… gluttons for punishment and abuse, they all but beg for pain… through my observation of women, I have become the most cynical person in history. They all appear to be similar in this regard. If anyone here knew my female friends, they would be just as cynical as me… I will go into detail if anyone is curious… it’s pretty wild, but provides a clear understanding of why I feel the way I do about women.

C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special?

D)I would definitely prefer to be married to a woman who hasn’t been fucked by dozens of guys… and if im going to have to have standards for what I want in someone else… I should meet them myself yes?

E)risk of STD’s… unplanned pregnancies…(I know 4 with STD’s, 1 has genital herpes, other has HIV, and I know 4 who have had unplanned pregnancies)

-girl feeling guilty about it later and claiming you raped her, landing you in jail or worse (happened to a friend of mine).

TL:DR It just doesn’t really seem worth it at this point in time. [/quote]

I think it’s unfair to base this on gender. Some people are just insecure assholes regardless of their plumbing. There are immature girls and there are ladies. I respect your point of view but I get the feeling you have been looking in the wrong places without even knowing it.[/quote]

well of course most of my guy friends are complete assholes to these girls, which is why they are so successful.

either way, emotional pain, unwanted babies/std’s etc… are enough to keep me away from women for the time being…im only 23 after all… with no emotional scars or baggage whatsoever… I might as well be 11 years old[/quote]

Judging by your posts in this thread I’d argue you have plenty of emotional scars and baggage, way more than most.
[/quote]

I can see why you would say that.

I am very very cynical yes… but by emotional scars and baggage I mean that I have never had my heart “broken”, there are no females who I have unrequited feelings for, whom I think of when alone or on the toilet… ive never been abused, etc… sadly that is saying something

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
What the fuck…

@walkway- this explains alot about your web persona. I do not mean this in a bad way, i really mean this the nicest way I can. Stop studying anabolics and go get your dick wet.
[/quote]

you make it sound like I haven’t had at least a half dozen opportunities…

in the last year[/quote]

Then next time you have the opportunity just put it in and play a game of tips, just to see if you like it.

Or keep preaching how your are holier than thou because you are pure and I am a dirty little slut. [/quote]

I haven’t done any preaching… I was asked “why” and that was my answer…

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special? [/quote]

I don’t think being a virgin really symbolizes anything for a man. I guess that’s a double standard, but whatever. Women don’t prefer virgins anyhow (although I guess you’re not worried about that). There’s only an “innocent, pure, untainted” aspect to it if you’re a girl. Besides what guy wants to be those things? There are more and better ways to differentiate yourself and be “special”. For example not being a fat, weak piece of shit like most humans.
[/quote]

you would be surprised… women are always comparing themselves to other women, in every way imaginable. they know that a virgin guy has so sexual experience to recall, and therefore would not be comparing them to any woman he has already had… this means a lot to a girl if they are honest with themselves… they would enjoy the comfort of knowing that she is the best he has ever had, because she is the only he has ever had. That’s what I meant about exclusivity.

[/quote]

I find this part of your reasoning strange, the STD/pregnancy/rape claim fear considering your stance on anabolics.

In one case, you acknoledge that AAS has small instances of annecdotal experiences of dangers, yet think to use those as a reason to jusitify not using it as stupid.

On the otherhand, even though consentual and safely practiced sex through monogamy or recreation is extremely safe with only smaller annecdotal instances of misfortune is enough for you to avoid it?

Self serving bias maybe? Dont confuse having unprotected sex with a stranger with safe consenting sex between two partners here, becuase that would be like comparing it to a non educated AAS user sharing a needle.

Curious to your thoughts on that.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
don’t worry about it OP, im 23 years old and still have my virginity [/quote]

Bull fucking shit.
[/quote]

that’s basically everyone’s response when they realize ive never had sex[/quote]

Why not then?[/quote]

I could write a book on this…

A)I believe that the greatest pleasure in life is freedom from pain and distraction. From what ive gathered by observing my male friends is… women bring both pain AND distraction… in abundance. They (my friends and males in general) are so ruled by pussy it’s comical… and disturbing… and pathetic… they stab each other in the back in efforts to obtain it. seems like a corrupting influence.

B)I don’t respect women in the slightest bit… or perhaps it would be more fair to say that ive never met a woman who was worthy of my respect. they are so foolish and impulsive… gluttons for punishment and abuse, they all but beg for pain… through my observation of women, I have become the most cynical person in history. They all appear to be similar in this regard. If anyone here knew my female friends, they would be just as cynical as me… I will go into detail if anyone is curious… it’s pretty wild, but provides a clear understanding of why I feel the way I do about women.

C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special?

D)I would definitely prefer to be married to a woman who hasn’t been fucked by dozens of guys… and if im going to have to have standards for what I want in someone else… I should meet them myself yes?

E)risk of STD’s… unplanned pregnancies…(I know 4 with STD’s, 1 has genital herpes, other has HIV, and I know 4 who have had unplanned pregnancies)

-girl feeling guilty about it later and claiming you raped her, landing you in jail or worse (happened to a friend of mine).

TL:DR It just doesn’t really seem worth it at this point in time. [/quote]

I think it’s unfair to base this on gender. Some people are just insecure assholes regardless of their plumbing. There are immature girls and there are ladies. I respect your point of view but I get the feeling you have been looking in the wrong places without even knowing it.[/quote]

well of course most of my guy friends are complete assholes to these girls, which is why they are so successful.

either way, emotional pain, unwanted babies/std’s etc… are enough to keep me away from women for the time being…im only 23 after all… with no emotional scars or baggage whatsoever… I might as well be 11 years old[/quote]

Judging by your posts in this thread I’d argue you have plenty of emotional scars and baggage, way more than most.
[/quote]

I can see why you would say that.

I am very very cynical yes… but by emotional scars and baggage I mean that I have never had my heart “broken”, there are no females who I have unrequited feelings for, whom I think of when alone or on the toilet… ive never been abused, etc… sadly that is saying something[/quote]

I know what you meant, but separating your version of emotional baggage with your overall unhealthy view of women seems a bit strange. I mean, if you did have your heart broken, you’d still wind up with the same views you hold on women today, so why the distinction?

Edit - I don’t care if you’re a virgin by choice, I don’t think that is necessarily a bad thing, but your view on women does seem unhealthy and quite frankly, unwarranted.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special? [/quote]

I don’t think being a virgin really symbolizes anything for a man. I guess that’s a double standard, but whatever. Women don’t prefer virgins anyhow (although I guess you’re not worried about that). There’s only an “innocent, pure, untainted” aspect to it if you’re a girl. Besides what guy wants to be those things? There are more and better ways to differentiate yourself and be “special”. For example not being a fat, weak piece of shit like most humans.
[/quote]

you would be surprised… women are always comparing themselves to other women, in every way imaginable. they know that a virgin guy has so sexual experience to recall, and therefore would not be comparing them to any woman he has already had… this means a lot to a girl if they are honest with themselves… they would enjoy the comfort of knowing that she is the best he has ever had, because she is the only he has ever had. That’s what I meant about exclusivity.

[/quote]

I find this part of your reasoning strange, the STD/pregnancy/rape claim fear considering your stance on anabolics.

In one case, you acknoledge that AAS has small instances of annecdotal experiences of dangers, yet think to use those as a reason to jusitify not using it as stupid.

On the otherhand, even though consentual and safely practiced sex through monogamy or recreation is extremely safe with only smaller annecdotal instances of misfortune is enough for you to avoid it?

Self serving bias maybe? Dont confuse having unprotected sex with a stranger with safe consenting sex between two partners here, becuase that would be like comparing it to a non educated AAS user sharing a needle.

Curious to your thoughts on that. [/quote]

well those were just a handful of reasons why I feel it is prudent to avoid it… I know of people (females) who have intentionally spread STD’s to their partners so “they (the guys) would have to stay with them because no one else would want them”

kinda mindblowing… but it’s real.

I guess you could say im more concerned about getting my feelings hurt. I would much rather have never loved at all than have loved and lost.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
but your view on women does seem unhealthy and quite frankly, unwarranted.
[/quote]

you grew up in a much different time period than I have

OMG! DEADPOOL!

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special? [/quote]

I don’t think being a virgin really symbolizes anything for a man. I guess that’s a double standard, but whatever. Women don’t prefer virgins anyhow (although I guess you’re not worried about that). There’s only an “innocent, pure, untainted” aspect to it if you’re a girl. Besides what guy wants to be those things? There are more and better ways to differentiate yourself and be “special”. For example not being a fat, weak piece of shit like most humans.
[/quote]

you would be surprised… women are always comparing themselves to other women, in every way imaginable. they know that a virgin guy has so sexual experience to recall, and therefore would not be comparing them to any woman he has already had… this means a lot to a girl if they are honest with themselves… they would enjoy the comfort of knowing that she is the best he has ever had, because she is the only he has ever had. That’s what I meant about exclusivity.

[/quote]

I find this part of your reasoning strange, the STD/pregnancy/rape claim fear considering your stance on anabolics.

In one case, you acknoledge that AAS has small instances of annecdotal experiences of dangers, yet think to use those as a reason to jusitify not using it as stupid.

On the otherhand, even though consentual and safely practiced sex through monogamy or recreation is extremely safe with only smaller annecdotal instances of misfortune is enough for you to avoid it?

Self serving bias maybe? Dont confuse having unprotected sex with a stranger with safe consenting sex between two partners here, becuase that would be like comparing it to a non educated AAS user sharing a needle.

Curious to your thoughts on that. [/quote]

well those were just a handful of reasons why I feel it is prudent to avoid it… I know of people (females) who have intentionally spread STD’s to their partners so “they (the guys) would have to stay with them because no one else would want them”

kinda mindblowing… but it’s real.

I guess you could say im more concerned about getting my feelings hurt. I would much rather have never loved at all than have loved and lost. [/quote]

Yeah but you can say that about anything. Crooked brokers stealing life savings in ponzi schemes etc. Not worth living a life of fear and lack of experiences. Good experience and bad(more so the bad) experiences help shape and develope you as a person. Might as well never play a sport becuase you may lose or get injured. I mean your chances of losing and getting hurt are higher than succeeding at a high level, so lets just stop playing.

It is easier to say that you would rather never love than to lose when you haven’t had love. Not joking at all. Everyone should be able to experience love, it’s just that good. Wish we still had PM’s… Anywho, if you keep yourself gaurded you will not experience anything in life. Check out some of the works of Depak Chopra on spiritual happiness. Make crack that icy exterior man.

I say this with the best intent to help, not hurt. Lighten up and open up or you will end up angry, bitter and alone spending your days arguing on an internet forum about muscles and juice instead of actually enjoying life and smiling.

And since getting that serious was uncharacteristic of me, i will close with this: Tittysprinkles.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
but your view on women does seem unhealthy and quite frankly, unwarranted.
[/quote]

you grew up in a much different time period than I have[/quote]

Dude Lanky and myself are maybe 2-4 years older than you…

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

I guess you could say im more concerned about getting my feelings hurt. I would much rather have never loved at all than have loved and lost. [/quote]

You can’t win if you never step on the field.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OMG! DEADPOOL![/quote]

google ‘gentle giant deadpool bust’.

I have that sitting on my desk in my office, along with the venom and wolverine one but i love me some deadpool :smiley:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

I guess you could say im more concerned about getting my feelings hurt. I would much rather have never loved at all than have loved and lost. [/quote]

You can’t win if you never step on the field.
[/quote]

cant even get a participation medal that kids nowadays get hahah

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
C)I like being a virgin… I like what it symbolizes… “purity” “untainted-ness”. It adds an element of exclusivity to who I am. it makes me a rare commodity…It’s what sets me apart from just about every other guy… women are always so surprised to hear about my innocence (my friends always put me on blast whenever I meet a new girl). I could easily be like everyone else… but how would that be special? [/quote]

I don’t think being a virgin really symbolizes anything for a man. I guess that’s a double standard, but whatever. Women don’t prefer virgins anyhow (although I guess you’re not worried about that). There’s only an “innocent, pure, untainted” aspect to it if you’re a girl. Besides what guy wants to be those things? There are more and better ways to differentiate yourself and be “special”. For example not being a fat, weak piece of shit like most humans.
[/quote]

you would be surprised… women are always comparing themselves to other women, in every way imaginable. they know that a virgin guy has so sexual experience to recall, and therefore would not be comparing them to any woman he has already had… this means a lot to a girl if they are honest with themselves… they would enjoy the comfort of knowing that she is the best he has ever had, because she is the only he has ever had. That’s what I meant about exclusivity.

[/quote]

I find this part of your reasoning strange, the STD/pregnancy/rape claim fear considering your stance on anabolics.

In one case, you acknoledge that AAS has small instances of annecdotal experiences of dangers, yet think to use those as a reason to jusitify not using it as stupid.

On the otherhand, even though consentual and safely practiced sex through monogamy or recreation is extremely safe with only smaller annecdotal instances of misfortune is enough for you to avoid it?

Self serving bias maybe? Dont confuse having unprotected sex with a stranger with safe consenting sex between two partners here, becuase that would be like comparing it to a non educated AAS user sharing a needle.

Curious to your thoughts on that. [/quote]

well those were just a handful of reasons why I feel it is prudent to avoid it… I know of people (females) who have intentionally spread STD’s to their partners so “they (the guys) would have to stay with them because no one else would want them”

kinda mindblowing… but it’s real.

I guess you could say im more concerned about getting my feelings hurt. I would much rather have never loved at all than have loved and lost. [/quote]

Yeah but you can say that about anything. Crooked brokers stealing life savings in ponzi schemes etc. Not worth living a life of fear and lack of experiences. Good experience and bad(more so the bad) experiences help shape and develope you as a person. Might as well never play a sport becuase you may lose or get injured. I mean your chances of losing and getting hurt are higher than succeeding at a high level, so lets just stop playing.

It is easier to say that you would rather never love than to lose when you haven’t had love. Not joking at all. Everyone should be able to experience love, it’s just that good. Wish we still had PM’s… Anywho, if you keep yourself gaurded you will not experience anything in life. Check out some of the works of Depak Chopra on spiritual happiness. Make crack that icy exterior man.

I say this with the best intent to help, not hurt. Lighten up and open up or you will end up angry, bitter and alone spending your days arguing on an internet forum about muscles and juice instead of actually enjoying life and smiling.

And since getting that serious was uncharacteristic of me, i will close with this: Tittysprinkles. [/quote]

I understand where you are coming from…

Ive always lived my life and made my decisions by watching other people do it first… I was never punished as a child because I learned from my brother’s mistakes… in the same way I have observed my friends who have been “in love”, and they seem as though they were worse off than before.

there is definitely truth to what you are saying… but I think I am best off staying the way I am, considering the way im wired…

all of my friends who have “been there and done that” basically demand that I stay the way I am, they feel so strongly

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
but your view on women does seem unhealthy and quite frankly, unwarranted.
[/quote]

you grew up in a much different time period than I have[/quote]

Dude Lanky and myself are maybe 2-4 years older than you… [/quote]

Lanky is definitely in his 30’s

What an odd turn…

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

I guess you could say im more concerned about getting my feelings hurt. I would much rather have never loved at all than have loved and lost. [/quote]

You can’t win if you never step on the field.
[/quote]

true…ill preface this next bit by stating the obvious, that I am a textbook “overthinker”

also my research (I don’t play video games or any of that stuff so I have plenty of free time I suppose) has concluded that individuals with fewer sexual partners are far more likely to have successful marriages, and about 2/3 to 3/4 of divorces are initiated by women. this matters to me because as a male, in the event of divorce am very likely to:

  1. lose (more than) half of my stuff
  2. lose custody of my children (especially given my aas usage)
  3. be paying child support for my children whom I won’t see until they are 18

it just seems like so much to put at risk for the sake of “getting my nut” as it were…