[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
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You could eat whales.
Edit: First I thought Elephants, but probably their feet are not right.
Jews are very particular about the feet of the animals they eat or so I believe.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
[/quote]
You could eat whales.[/quote]
Sea mammals are not kosher.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
[/quote]
You could eat whales.[/quote]
Sea mammals are not kosher.[/quote]
Damn it, you are too fast for my edits.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
[/quote]
You could eat whales.[/quote]
Sea mammals are not kosher.[/quote]
Damn it, you are too fast for my edits. [/quote]
I did not know either of those facts. But I would eat whale as well.
EDIT: only if it was a baby freshly killed in front of children.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
[/quote]
Thanks for this… Didn’t realize that there was some misconceptions about it being kosher or not
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
But I would eat whale as well.
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Go to college, or just really drunk at local bars… It is bound to happen.
Apparently Whales do not have scales and elephants have no cloven hooves and do no chew their cud…
It is all very complicated.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Me too but only if kids could watch
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Is that why Mads Mikkelsen grew up to be Hannibal?
And his brother Lars -the “Napoleon of Blackmail”? (Sherlock Holmes lol)
It’s the exposure to graphic autopsies as kids I tell 'ya…
(Ftr I agree with you Matty; for me the wild vs. “domesticated” aspect of it makes a difference.)
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Not a big deal. People need to stop getting up in arms over death. It’s a natural part of life.[/quote]
Agreed. The complete bury your head in sand view on death and violence is so exhausting. Suck it the fuck up, this world was created through violence and death and everything in nature fights and dies. Frankly I’m not so sure why everyone thinks cutting his balls off and letting him live is a better option. I think it’s safe to say that the zoo staff actually care a whole hell of a lot more about animals than the fly by night critics of their actions.
“I know it’s natural in nature. I’m not an idiot,” he said, “but I don’t need to have some 2- and 3- and 6-year-olds – they cannot understand at that age. You understand they don’t understand nature. They haven’t been to Africa, so that’s what we do at the zoos. We try to educate people at zoos on what happens in the wild.”
Which is exactly what Holst argues the Copenhagen Zoo was doing. As for exploring other purportedly more humane options, such as lethal injection or sterilization, Holst said that an injection would have contaminated about 200 kilograms of perfectly good meat, which was out of the question. He added, “if we just sterilize him, he will take up space for more genetically valuable giraffes.”
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Giraffe meat is very fatty[/quote]
You know, I started a parody thread called.
Giraffe Grilled, with a link to a giraffe meal…
It didn’t make it past the mods. lol[/quote]
I would eat Giraffe.[/quote]
Giraffes are the largest kosher animal and proper to eat.
Bit of trivia for your next party.
[/quote]
But can they be snared without injury?
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Don’t you think if a man who has no adversity to plunging an arrow threw the lungs of Bambi’s father would take issue with this killing, it would give you pause?
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Now that’s funny!
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Don’t you think if a man who has no adversity to plunging an arrow threw the lungs of Bambi’s father would take issue with this killing, it would give you pause?
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Now that’s funny![/quote]
Still waiting on your insight.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Don’t you think if a man who has no adversity to plunging an arrow threw the lungs of Bambi’s father would take issue with this killing, it would give you pause?
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Now that’s funny![/quote]
Still waiting on your insight.
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That is a hell of a dog bone…or in this case kitty bone.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I am also disappointed that such a big deal was made of it being done in front of the children. Kids should she this stuff so they understand where food comes from. We are too far removed from our food source IMO.
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Ding ding ding! Winner.
Death is the way of Nature, and so usually very violent and painful death via fighting, getting eaten or some other thing. Being educated on the real nature of death and the “circle of life” and/or being shot for food is much more humane than letting Mother Nature have an animal in the wild starve for a month or suffer from a fatal wounding and broken leg for a couple weeks before succumbing anyways.[/quote]
Well I was going to let the first one go but now it seems we now have two completely uneducated people weighing in.
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Were you planning on actually attaching some content to that insult?[/quote]
It was not an insult. Do you feel educated enough to speak on the topic? If so; continue. If not and you need me to attach some content I will. What would you like to have a better understanding of?[/quote]
I’m willing to bet that I’ve at least researched/read more about this specific occasion than you, and given your current stance on the subject I would also bet you are not educated in zoology or biology because 100% of the professionals I’ve seen weigh in have agreed with the decision made by the Copenhagen Zoo.
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I do not doubt you have read more then I have. As for practical experience, maybe not. What separates the experienced from the textbook is the ability to understand that there is no 100% in agreement among professional. That statement along displays a lack of understanding.
You can not create a situation that has one rational outcome and then say everyone agreed with the final course of action. I’m trying to lead you down a path, but you need to ask the right questions.
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No offense intended, but you’re coming off as really pretentious and outright stupid. The zoo and the organization it is part of are filled with experts/professionals where biology and zoology is either their passion or/and their job (duh).
I imagine they would know the best/most rational/most resourceful outcome to this issue. I don’t know why you’re trying to be mysterious or something, but you have basically said nothing but insults. This observation has been mentioned by others in this thread. You may want to think about that.[/quote]
I really do not care what other people think of me when I do not know them. I hope you are the same way. Do you really rely on the experts so heavily that you stopped thinking for yourself?
Don’t you think that it may have been slightly irresponsible of the zoo to allow the birth of the animal two years ago? Which is it; the experts that you put so much trust and faith in were wrong then or now? Sorry but I do not give credit to someone who solved a problem that they have created.
I can say that I have spoke to two friends that to me would qualify as experts. Both with their own businesses and have degrees in environmental science and biology, one of them specializes in endangered species. They said it was a senseless act; it could have been avoided and borders on reckless incompetence.
I hope nothing there was too pretentious and/or outright stupid.
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Don’t you think that it may have been slightly irresponsible of the zoo to allow the birth of the animal two years ago? Which is it; the experts that you put so much trust and faith in were wrong then or now? Sorry but I do not give credit to someone who solved a problem that they have created.
I can say that I have spoke to two friends that to me would qualify as experts. Both with their own businesses and have degrees in environmental science and biology, one of them specializes in endangered species. They said it was a senseless act; it could have been avoided and borders on reckless incompetence.
I hope nothing there was too pretentious and/or outright stupid. [/quote]
Why is it assumed it was a problem? The animal in question was kept in reserve in case it’s brother at the other Zoo did not survive. It is not unusual at all to cull a herd of bulls when there are too many genetically similar animals. It is called management, something I assume you are familiar with since you are a hunter. Doesn’t Pennsylvania manage their wildlife by setting limits, stocking, culling herds in parks?
I am trying to understand why it is any different that this animal was used for feeding the lions as opposed to any other animal. Would it be different if they had a specific program for feeding Lions what they naturally eat in the wild?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]BigJc wrote:
“I know it’s natural in nature. I’m not an idiot,” he said, "but I don’t need to have some 2- and 3- and 6-year-olds – they cannot understand at that age.
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I bristle (kinda) at this nonsense.
I’ve had both my kids at those ages with me during the killing, gutting and butchering of deer and elk.
They can understand PERFECTLY.[/quote]
Yeah but your kids are not city kids :). Or Euro city kids. That’s why the guy said they try to educate them there at the zoo. Not everybody can be cool enough to have their kids exposed to the way of nature that early because they have to live in concrete jungles without wildlife.
Apparently the parents present at the giraffe autopsy allowed their children to observe. It’s a non-issue.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Don’t you think that it may have been slightly irresponsible of the zoo to allow the birth of the animal two years ago? Which is it; the experts that you put so much trust and faith in were wrong then or now? Sorry but I do not give credit to someone who solved a problem that they have created.
I can say that I have spoke to two friends that to me would qualify as experts. Both with their own businesses and have degrees in environmental science and biology, one of them specializes in endangered species. They said it was a senseless act; it could have been avoided and borders on reckless incompetence.
I hope nothing there was too pretentious and/or outright stupid. [/quote]
Why is it assumed it was a problem? The animal in question was kept in reserve in case it’s brother at the other Zoo did not survive. It is not unusual at all to cull a herd of bulls when there are too many genetically similar animals. It is called management, something I assume you are familiar with since you are a hunter. Doesn’t Pennsylvania manage their wildlife by setting limits, stocking, culling herds in parks?
I am trying to understand why it is any different that this animal was used for feeding the lions as opposed to any other animal. Would it be different if they had a specific program for feeding Lions what they naturally eat in the wild?
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Now you have hit on something; was this part of a good management program or a way to manage a bad program?
Correct me if I am wrong here but this animal was not part of a “Feeder Program”. If a zoo had such a thing, I would have no issue with that; EXAMPLE: Crickets and mice are raised to feed snakes.
One of my hobbies is animal husbandry on a small scale. I have two dozen chickens, turkeys and 3 pigs. My animals get treated well but make no mistake about it, they have an end purpose and my wife and children understand this. Its very hard for me to kill any living creature and although I do hunt and fish, I do feel some remorse after a harvest.
