[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
sneaky snake.
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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
If someone put something in my food (I don’t give a fuck if it’s a “prank” or not) I would be the one getting the assault charge.
Grow the fuck up.[/quote]
x2.
Dude, I think we were seriously separated at birth lol.
OP, I’d fucking beat your ass, rest, and beat you some more. A few days would pass, and I’d find you and beat you again, rest, and beat you some more. I’d wait a bit longer, waiting for your injuries to heal, and then I’d find you and beat you again. This pattern of conduct would continue for quite some time. In fact, I might even segue into your paying me “protection money” every month to NOT beat you.
This is NOT a “prank”. It’s assault. It’s “adulterating” someone’s food. It’s crossing a line. You do not do shit like this. It’s not even funny. [/quote]
Food pranks are hilarious, bodily functions aside.
But, just food for thought, if you were going to be a serial assaulter, what if the OP had a gun?
Just curious, not an e-warrior threat but seriously. If I pissed some one off who could pull my card on cue and they made it habit to beat me, bad enough to deliver injury requiring time to heal, I’d carry one of my guns and shoot his ass the next time he came around. It would be a clear case of self defense.
Sometimes it’s just better to take a joke, let things roll you know? This site is full of big dudes, tough dudes, formerly big dudes re-gaining themselves et cetera.
We all know that God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal. And a revolver would be much more reliable than money for protection.
I’ve always wondered how the old school mafia would have fared in gun happy states. I mean it’s not uncommon for native born Texans for example to start shooting at the age of like 7. Many of us had our first .22 before ten and bigger guns in early pre-teen/teen years and can actually aim. Plus state law allows deadly force for protection. Maybe this is why they never took a stong hold on said gun happy states.
I just don’t see an enforcer/hit-man being all that scary unless he does some pussy behind the back shit like plant a car bomb, shoot a guy in the back or otherwise be a sneaky snake.
I mean it would be ridiculous for a hot pepper in a sandwhich to escalate this far, but if it did what then?
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you really have no idea do you.
how is it i have a pretty good feel for who you are, which you probably deny, yet you claim to be in some sales capacity yet have no read on me?
yeah, you can shoot me. can you shoot all my don’t-give-a-fuck friends and associates? and can you protect everyone in your life every moment of the day? you shoot me, you might as well use the next bullet on yourself. and i’m not dialing 911 or ever speaking to the police.
i’ve already been shot btw. stabbed three times too.
i know, just answering this Q makes me an “internet tough guy”. LOL
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
I’ve always wondered how the old school mafia would have fared in gun happy states. I mean it’s not uncommon for native born Texans for example to start shooting at the age of like 7. Many of us had our first .22 before ten and bigger guns in early pre-teen/teen years and can actually aim. Plus state law allows deadly force for protection. Maybe this is why they never took a stong hold on said gun happy states.
I just don’t see an enforcer/hit-man being all that scary unless he does some pussy behind the back shit like plant a car bomb, shoot a guy in the back or otherwise be a sneaky snake.
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I don’t want to completely derail this thread, but are you serious?
I know 15 year olds that will set fire to your home with your mother sleeping inside and you think gun-happy Texas changes that dynamic?
We live in very different worlds. But you should have known that salesman 
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
i’ve already been shot btw. stabbed three times too.
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Who was the other guy that stabbed you?
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Maybe this is why they never took a stong hold on said gun happy states.
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And, most of your gun happy states are rural with none or not much of the big city rackets to exploit. The other part is geography and where traditional mafia immigrated and settled. However, you have Mexican organized crime et als down there and your guns cannot protect you.
Where these “gun happy” States as you call them lacked a big traditional OC, they had a less traditional and perhaps less “organized” OC element - mainly gangs. And traditional OC was nothing more than a gang - most of them just wore suits…or at least track suits lol.
Your gun is good for one thing; at 2 a.m., when you actually hear the meth-head trying to break into your home. Don’t kid yourself. You promise not to lecture me about security and such, and I pinky promise I’ll never lecture you about annuities even though I arrangted quite a few throughout my career.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
i’ve already been shot btw. stabbed three times too.
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Who was the other guy that stabbed you?[/quote]
huh?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
I wouldn’t sneak it into someone’s food, but if you can trick him into eating I think that’d be pretty funny. All these internet T-warriors saying they’d assault someone for pranking them with a chili need to chill the fuck out lol. [/quote]
lol @ internet T warriors. Good one. You know, b/c someone on here couldn’t possibly the type to fuck you up. [/quote]
Ha!, good point. We’re T-Nation fer fuck’s sake. What, are we all 98lbs soaking wet?!?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
i’ve already been shot btw. stabbed three times too.
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Who was the other guy that stabbed you?[/quote]
huh?[/quote]
I was implying that I had stabbed you two out of three times, as an interweb funny-haha.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
If someone put something in my food (I don’t give a fuck if it’s a “prank” or not) I would be the one getting the assault charge.
Grow the fuck up.[/quote]
x2.
Dude, I think we were seriously separated at birth lol.
OP, I’d fucking beat your ass, rest, and beat you some more. A few days would pass, and I’d find you and beat you again, rest, and beat you some more. I’d wait a bit longer, waiting for your injuries to heal, and then I’d find you and beat you again. This pattern of conduct would continue for quite some time. In fact, I might even segue into your paying me “protection money” every month to NOT beat you.
This is NOT a “prank”. It’s assault. It’s “adulterating” someone’s food. It’s crossing a line. You do not do shit like this. It’s not even funny. [/quote]
Food pranks are hilarious, bodily functions aside.
But, just food for thought, if you were going to be a serial assaulter, what if the OP had a gun?
Just curious, not an e-warrior threat but seriously. If I pissed some one off who could pull my card on cue and they made it habit to beat me, bad enough to deliver injury requiring time to heal, I’d carry one of my guns and shoot his ass the next time he came around. It would be a clear case of self defense.
Sometimes it’s just better to take a joke, let things roll you know? This site is full of big dudes, tough dudes, formerly big dudes re-gaining themselves et cetera.
We all know that God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal. And a revolver would be much more reliable than money for protection.
I’ve always wondered how the old school mafia would have fared in gun happy states. I mean it’s not uncommon for native born Texans for example to start shooting at the age of like 7. Many of us had our first .22 before ten and bigger guns in early pre-teen/teen years and can actually aim. Plus state law allows deadly force for protection. Maybe this is why they never took a stong hold on said gun happy states.
I just don’t see an enforcer/hit-man being all that scary unless he does some pussy behind the back shit like plant a car bomb, shoot a guy in the back or otherwise be a sneaky snake.
I mean it would be ridiculous for a hot pepper in a sandwhich to escalate this far, but if it did what then?
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you really have no idea do you.
how is it i have a pretty good feel for who you are, which you probably deny, yet you claim to be in some sales capacity yet have no read on me?
yeah, you can shoot me. can you shoot all my don’t-give-a-fuck friends and associates? and can you protect everyone in your life every moment of the day? you shoot me, you might as well use the next bullet on yourself. and i’m not dialing 911 or ever speaking to the police.
i’ve already been shot btw. stabbed three times too.
i know, just answering this Q makes me an “internet tough guy”. LOL[/quote]
See that’s what I’m talking about. There would have to be some sneaky, pussy shit like going after family and friends.
Or a group of friends showing up unannounced and launching a surprise attack. Then again, if I felt a group of people might be coming after me, I’d just keep carrying my own gun pick my hunting dogs up from my buddies and stick them in the house et cetera.
I just don’t think I’d make an easy target, sneaky pussy stuff aside. Plus, I would go to the police. Surely the FBI would get involved too if a hot pepper sandwich really did escalate this far.
When I first graduated from college, I lived in an old shitty building, but it looked nice, red brick, colonial style columns et cetera. It was literally right off of one of Houston’s most affluent neighborhoods and until you went inside was deceptively nice.
Anyways, we were in the height of the recession then and crime was bad. There was a murder robbery at a home literally a block down the street, followed by one in my building plus other armed robberies and various levels of assault.
I remember being glad I lived on the second story, with one door in and out. I slept with a unplugged shotgun by my bed loaded with 7 buckshot shells and .45 in case people were still wiggling.
I don’t give a fuck who or how big a guy came kicking through my door. As soon as I heard the door getting kicked I would have grabbed the shotgun, moved slightly to a vantage point giving a clear view of the door and blasted his/their chests to ground beef.
The police would have taken an assessment of the situation, determined self defense and that would have been all she wrote.
I currently live in a house with multiple entrances/windows but unless some one scales a wall, they are going to have to come up the stair. Fat chance.
Plus I have a zoned alarm and would know exactly where they were.
Just saying, hypothetically. Family would be another story but that is pretty weak.
FYI, I read you as driven, goal oriented, you love a challenge, you are very analytical to the point of suspicion even if you don’t see it, highly egocentric, you most likely are a stand up guy and exercise a very egocentric version of honor, particular, direct and enjoy being in charge.
Impossible to really read someone with out actually meeting them but that’s what I see from your posts.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Maybe this is why they never took a stong hold on said gun happy states.
[/quote]
And, most of your gun happy states are rural with none or not much of the big city rackets to exploit. The other part is geography and where traditional mafia immigrated and settled. However, you have Mexican organized crime et als down there and your guns cannot protect you.
Where these “gun happy” States as you call them lacked a big traditional OC, they had a less traditional and perhaps less “organized” OC element - mainly gangs. And traditional OC was nothing more than a gang - most of them just wore suits…or at least track suits lol.
Your gun is good for one thing; at 2 a.m., when you actually hear the meth-head trying to break into your home. Don’t kid yourself. You promise not to lecture me about security and such, and I pinky promise I’ll never lecture you about annuities even though I arrangted quite a few throughout my career.[/quote]
You would be surprised how many ranchers/s. Texas hunters make a game of shooting people crossing the border… they leave trails as they camp on various private properties. You can find old fires, food scraps et cetera under random scrub brush. People literally set up and night and shoot them. It’s a sick game but actually alters migrant paths. They don’t bottle neck certain areas for fun.
Plus, the cartels stay on their side primarily. Street gangs do exist but they sure as hell don’t run around shaking people down for protection. If they did you can bet your ass you’d hear another “self-defense” case coming from Texas with news pundits stroking the gun right fires for a story.
I don’t know man, a kid burning a house, drive bys, snipers et cetera would all be an issue for sure but that answers my question. Sneaky shit would be required.
Plus, you would be dead, which is the real question. Would your own death be worth escalating a pepper sandwich so far?
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
See that’s what I’m talking about. There would have to be some sneaky, pussy shit like going after family and friends.
Or a group of friends showing up unannounced and launching a surprise attack. Then again, if I felt a group of people might be coming after me, I’d just keep carrying my own gun pick my hunting dogs up from my buddies and stick them in the house et cetera.
I just don’t think I’d make an easy target, sneaky pussy stuff aside. Plus, I would go to the police. Surely the FBI would get involved too if a hot pepper sandwich really did escalate this far.
When I first graduated from college, I lived in an old shitty building, but it looked nice, red brick, colonial style columns et cetera. It was literally right off of one of Houston’s most affluent neighborhoods and until you went inside was deceptively nice.
Anyways, we were in the height of the recession then and crime was bad. There was a murder robbery at a home literally a block down the street, followed by one in my building plus other armed robberies and various levels of assault.
I remember being glad I lived on the second story, with one door in and out. I slept with a unplugged shotgun by my bed loaded with 7 buckshot shells and .45 in case people were still wiggling.
I don’t give a fuck who or how big a guy came kicking through my door. As soon as I heard the door getting kicked I would have grabbed the shotgun, moved slightly to a vantage point giving a clear view of the door and blasted his/their chests to ground beef.
The police would have taken an assessment of the situation, determined self defense and that would have been all she wrote.
I currently live in a house with multiple entrances/windows but unless some one scales a wall, they are going to have to come up the stair. Fat chance.
Plus I have a zoned alarm and would know exactly where they were.
Just saying, hypothetically. Family would be another story but that is pretty weak.
FYI, I read you as driven, goal oriented, you love a challenge, you are very analytical to the point of suspicion even if you don’t see it, highly egocentric, you most likely are a stand up guy and exercise a very egocentric version of honor, particular, direct and enjoy being in charge.
Impossible to really read someone with out actually meeting them but that’s what I see from your posts.
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I’m not sure what you mean by “sneaky”. If you mean by sneaky some kid walking directly up to you and shooting you, I guess that’s “sneaky”. I’ve seen it. And since I haven’t read about any formal “duels” in the century, this is the world we live in.
If you mean by “sneaky” those in this world that are willing to do anything to exert their will, it’s just a fact of life.
But back to the point, if someone put something adulterated in my food that made me sick, I’d beat their ass and I’d beat it good. I was exaggerating the day after day thing, but you can bet your ass you’d be my enemy from that point further and I’m not even sure what I’d do when I cross paths with an enemy. One time, I walked out of the bar b/c I didn’t want to be arrested “that night”. Another time, another place, I can be in “I don’t give a fuck mode”.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Maybe this is why they never took a stong hold on said gun happy states.
[/quote]
And, most of your gun happy states are rural with none or not much of the big city rackets to exploit. The other part is geography and where traditional mafia immigrated and settled. However, you have Mexican organized crime et als down there and your guns cannot protect you.
Where these “gun happy” States as you call them lacked a big traditional OC, they had a less traditional and perhaps less “organized” OC element - mainly gangs. And traditional OC was nothing more than a gang - most of them just wore suits…or at least track suits lol.
Your gun is good for one thing; at 2 a.m., when you actually hear the meth-head trying to break into your home. Don’t kid yourself. You promise not to lecture me about security and such, and I pinky promise I’ll never lecture you about annuities even though I arrangted quite a few throughout my career.[/quote]
You would be surprised how many ranchers/s. Texas hunters make a game of shooting people crossing the border… they leave trails as they camp on various private properties. You can find old fires, food scraps et cetera under random scrub brush. People literally set up and night and shoot them. It’s a sick game but actually alters migrant paths. They don’t bottle neck certain areas for fun.
Plus, the cartels stay on their side primarily. Street gangs do exist but they sure as hell don’t run around shaking people down for protection. If they did you can bet your ass you’d hear another “self-defense” case coming from Texas with news pundits stroking the gun right fires for a story.
I don’t know man, a kid burning a house, drive bys, snipers et cetera would all be an issue for sure but that answers my question. Sneaky shit would be required.
Plus, you would be dead, which is the real question. Would your own death be worth escalating a pepper sandwich so far?
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With respect dear sir, they do not shake people down b/c they are not sophisticated enough. And that’s about the only thing that separates them from traditional OC. They simply cannot mix in that world. However, they do shake down their own, which just isn’t as lucrative. Asian gangs do it in every Chinatown in the country. However, they have no stake or influence over a union for instance. They simply cannot mix in that world.
I have no idea where escalation between two men would go. As I said, if someone adulterated my food, they are getting a beating. Where it goes from there is beyond my control except for the fact that I’m not willing to lose. If you doubt that for a second, consider that I’m 46, live in a very different world than you, I do not walk lightly, and I’m still here.
When you make it to the Northeast, I’ll buy you a beer and show you around Beirut for some perspective.
lol if someone new were to open this thread on the last page he might think Ghost Pepper was a new gang…
still waiting to see if OP tried it or not
Hahaha. The Ghost Pepper crime ring. It’s not just a harsh reminder the next morning, and baby wipes will not soothe the its ravages.
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
lol if someone new were to open this thread on the last page he might think Ghost Pepper was a new gang…
still waiting to see if OP tried it or not[/quote]
Nope, not yet, it’s still the same day over here. I’ll probably do it within the next two hours.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
See that’s what I’m talking about. There would have to be some sneaky, pussy shit like going after family and friends.
Or a group of friends showing up unannounced and launching a surprise attack. Then again, if I felt a group of people might be coming after me, I’d just keep carrying my own gun pick my hunting dogs up from my buddies and stick them in the house et cetera.
I just don’t think I’d make an easy target, sneaky pussy stuff aside. Plus, I would go to the police. Surely the FBI would get involved too if a hot pepper sandwich really did escalate this far.
When I first graduated from college, I lived in an old shitty building, but it looked nice, red brick, colonial style columns et cetera. It was literally right off of one of Houston’s most affluent neighborhoods and until you went inside was deceptively nice.
Anyways, we were in the height of the recession then and crime was bad. There was a murder robbery at a home literally a block down the street, followed by one in my building plus other armed robberies and various levels of assault.
I remember being glad I lived on the second story, with one door in and out. I slept with a unplugged shotgun by my bed loaded with 7 buckshot shells and .45 in case people were still wiggling.
I don’t give a fuck who or how big a guy came kicking through my door. As soon as I heard the door getting kicked I would have grabbed the shotgun, moved slightly to a vantage point giving a clear view of the door and blasted his/their chests to ground beef.
The police would have taken an assessment of the situation, determined self defense and that would have been all she wrote.
I currently live in a house with multiple entrances/windows but unless some one scales a wall, they are going to have to come up the stair. Fat chance.
Plus I have a zoned alarm and would know exactly where they were.
Just saying, hypothetically. Family would be another story but that is pretty weak.
FYI, I read you as driven, goal oriented, you love a challenge, you are very analytical to the point of suspicion even if you don’t see it, highly egocentric, you most likely are a stand up guy and exercise a very egocentric version of honor, particular, direct and enjoy being in charge.
Impossible to really read someone with out actually meeting them but that’s what I see from your posts.
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I’m not sure what you mean by “sneaky”. If you mean by sneaky some kid walking directly up to you and shooting you, I guess that’s “sneaky”. I’ve seen it. And since I haven’t read about any formal “duels” in the century, this is the world we live in.
If you mean by “sneaky” those in this world that are willing to do anything to exert their will, it’s just a fact of life.
But back to the point, if someone put something adulterated in my food that made me sick, I’d beat their ass and I’d beat it good. I was exaggerating the day after day thing, but you can bet your ass you’d be my enemy from that point further and I’m not even sure what I’d do when I cross paths with an enemy. One time, I walked out of the bar b/c I didn’t want to be arrested “that night”. Another time, another place, I can be in “I don’t give a fuck mode”. [/quote]
I don’t know, a kid walking up with a gun better be able to aim quick, given the scenario discussed. And he better shoot to kill because any self respecting Texan (not a re-located asshole who claims Texas) expecting trouble would have a large caliber pistol they know how to aim in a convenient spot to grab on their person, in their truck, home, office et cetera (many Texans have this with no expectation of trouble at all).
And at home we tend to have an armory. I personally have various hunting rifles, pistols, assault rifles and shotguns and know how to use them all very well. I am not alone in my love of guns.
If the kid snuck up and put one in back of the head, sure, he wins hands down and was a sneaky pussy. If he comes up in front he leaves a wide door for his own death to enter. You personally know getting shot doesn’t always equal death or even drop a guy, and that’s assuming the kid makes his shot. Granted I’ve never seen the real mob in action but I just don’t see people here cowering and begging for life and forgiveness.
You talk about culture, ours can be traced back to the Alamo where 200 Texans stood against 5000 mexicans, killing over half of them, for the better part of a week. Eventually they were overtaken but then the Battle of San Jacinto happened, where 800 Texans attacked 1400 Mexicans. The battle lasted 18 minutes and 700 Mexicans were killed as opposed to 9 Texans. Texas then became an independent country and then the greatest state in the entire US.
Strength in numbers will win in time, every time no doubt but the imagined mobsters wouldn’t have the same element of fear and intimidation they undoubtedly rely on. Whoever they target would potentially go out guns blazing.
Plus, to add a twist, we don’t all live in a little box and travel the public transport line. Technically if I was being stalked personally, I’d report to the police and then bait my stalkers to a ranch, replete with catch dogs, guns most people think only the military has access too, a lay of the land, deer blinds, ravines, crevices, hills et cetera. I’d bring some of my own crazy buddies with me and we would be talking armed trespass on private property. It would be an absolute slaughter.
Given the scenario, I wouldn’t be hanging out at Lou’s Italian Diner “unawares”. I’d take them right out of their element and in to mine, which you have a taste for with your Floridian uncle and hog hunting experience, but I’m guessing you are the exception to the rule.
This conversation could go on for hours with no real point though.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
See that’s what I’m talking about. There would have to be some sneaky, pussy shit like going after family and friends.
Or a group of friends showing up unannounced and launching a surprise attack. Then again, if I felt a group of people might be coming after me, I’d just keep carrying my own gun pick my hunting dogs up from my buddies and stick them in the house et cetera.
I just don’t think I’d make an easy target, sneaky pussy stuff aside. Plus, I would go to the police. Surely the FBI would get involved too if a hot pepper sandwich really did escalate this far.
When I first graduated from college, I lived in an old shitty building, but it looked nice, red brick, colonial style columns et cetera. It was literally right off of one of Houston’s most affluent neighborhoods and until you went inside was deceptively nice.
Anyways, we were in the height of the recession then and crime was bad. There was a murder robbery at a home literally a block down the street, followed by one in my building plus other armed robberies and various levels of assault.
I remember being glad I lived on the second story, with one door in and out. I slept with a unplugged shotgun by my bed loaded with 7 buckshot shells and .45 in case people were still wiggling.
I don’t give a fuck who or how big a guy came kicking through my door. As soon as I heard the door getting kicked I would have grabbed the shotgun, moved slightly to a vantage point giving a clear view of the door and blasted his/their chests to ground beef.
The police would have taken an assessment of the situation, determined self defense and that would have been all she wrote.
I currently live in a house with multiple entrances/windows but unless some one scales a wall, they are going to have to come up the stair. Fat chance.
Plus I have a zoned alarm and would know exactly where they were.
Just saying, hypothetically. Family would be another story but that is pretty weak.
FYI, I read you as driven, goal oriented, you love a challenge, you are very analytical to the point of suspicion even if you don’t see it, highly egocentric, you most likely are a stand up guy and exercise a very egocentric version of honor, particular, direct and enjoy being in charge.
Impossible to really read someone with out actually meeting them but that’s what I see from your posts.
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I’m not sure what you mean by “sneaky”. If you mean by sneaky some kid walking directly up to you and shooting you, I guess that’s “sneaky”. I’ve seen it. And since I haven’t read about any formal “duels” in the century, this is the world we live in.
If you mean by “sneaky” those in this world that are willing to do anything to exert their will, it’s just a fact of life.
But back to the point, if someone put something adulterated in my food that made me sick, I’d beat their ass and I’d beat it good. I was exaggerating the day after day thing, but you can bet your ass you’d be my enemy from that point further and I’m not even sure what I’d do when I cross paths with an enemy. One time, I walked out of the bar b/c I didn’t want to be arrested “that night”. Another time, another place, I can be in “I don’t give a fuck mode”. [/quote]
I don’t know, a kid walking up with a gun better be able to aim quick, given the scenario discussed. And he better shoot to kill because any self respecting Texan (not a re-located asshole who claims Texas) expecting trouble would have a large caliber pistol they know how to aim in a convenient spot to grab on their person, in their truck, home, office et cetera (many Texans have this with no expectation of trouble at all).
And at home we tend to have an armory. I personally have various hunting rifles, pistols, assault rifles and shotguns and know how to use them all very well. I am not alone in my love of guns.
If the kid snuck up and put one in back of the head, sure, he wins hands down and was a sneaky pussy. If he comes up in front he leaves a wide door for his own death to enter. You personally know getting shot doesn’t always equal death or even drop a guy, and that’s assuming the kid makes his shot. Granted I’ve never seen the real mob in action but I just don’t see people here cowering and begging for life and forgiveness.
You talk about culture, ours can be traced back to the Alamo where 200 Texans stood against 5000 mexicans, killing over half of them, for the better part of a week. Eventually they were overtaken but then the Battle of San Jacinto happened, where 800 Texans attacked 1400 Mexicans. The battle lasted 18 minutes and 700 Mexicans were killed as opposed to 9 Texans. Texas then became an independent country and then the greatest state in the entire US.
Strength in numbers will win in time, every time no doubt but the imagined mobsters wouldn’t have the same element of fear and intimidation they undoubtedly rely on. Whoever they target would potentially go out guns blazing.
Plus, to add a twist, we don’t all live in a little box and travel the public transport line. Technically if I was being stalked personally, I’d report to the police and then bait my stalkers to a ranch, replete with catch dogs, guns most people think only the military has access too, a lay of the land, deer blinds, ravines, crevices, hills et cetera. I’d bring some of my own crazy buddies with me and we would be talking armed trespass on private property. It would be an absolute slaughter.
Given the scenario, I wouldn’t be hanging out at Lou’s Italian Diner “unawares”. I’d take them right out of their element and in to mine, which you have a taste for with your Floridian uncle and hog hunting experience, but I’m guessing you are the exception to the rule.
This conversation could go on for hours with no real point though.
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the point is you’re missing the point.
around here, if someone wants you dead, they will walk up to you and shoot you. period. no warning, no fan fare. pop pop pop pop pop. and keep walking. please man. i seen plenty of cats chalked out gun still in waistband. one of my best friends went out like that. is texas some different planet? stop with the texas pride. it’s ridiculous. they get stretched in houston just like here. you just don’t move in that world, that’s why you’re giving me imaginary scenarios that have NOTHING to do with that reality - no offense.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
See that’s what I’m talking about. There would have to be some sneaky, pussy shit like going after family and friends.
Or a group of friends showing up unannounced and launching a surprise attack. Then again, if I felt a group of people might be coming after me, I’d just keep carrying my own gun pick my hunting dogs up from my buddies and stick them in the house et cetera.
I just don’t think I’d make an easy target, sneaky pussy stuff aside. Plus, I would go to the police. Surely the FBI would get involved too if a hot pepper sandwich really did escalate this far.
When I first graduated from college, I lived in an old shitty building, but it looked nice, red brick, colonial style columns et cetera. It was literally right off of one of Houston’s most affluent neighborhoods and until you went inside was deceptively nice.
Anyways, we were in the height of the recession then and crime was bad. There was a murder robbery at a home literally a block down the street, followed by one in my building plus other armed robberies and various levels of assault.
I remember being glad I lived on the second story, with one door in and out. I slept with a unplugged shotgun by my bed loaded with 7 buckshot shells and .45 in case people were still wiggling.
I don’t give a fuck who or how big a guy came kicking through my door. As soon as I heard the door getting kicked I would have grabbed the shotgun, moved slightly to a vantage point giving a clear view of the door and blasted his/their chests to ground beef.
The police would have taken an assessment of the situation, determined self defense and that would have been all she wrote.
I currently live in a house with multiple entrances/windows but unless some one scales a wall, they are going to have to come up the stair. Fat chance.
Plus I have a zoned alarm and would know exactly where they were.
Just saying, hypothetically. Family would be another story but that is pretty weak.
FYI, I read you as driven, goal oriented, you love a challenge, you are very analytical to the point of suspicion even if you don’t see it, highly egocentric, you most likely are a stand up guy and exercise a very egocentric version of honor, particular, direct and enjoy being in charge.
Impossible to really read someone with out actually meeting them but that’s what I see from your posts.
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I’m not sure what you mean by “sneaky”. If you mean by sneaky some kid walking directly up to you and shooting you, I guess that’s “sneaky”. I’ve seen it. And since I haven’t read about any formal “duels” in the century, this is the world we live in.
If you mean by “sneaky” those in this world that are willing to do anything to exert their will, it’s just a fact of life.
But back to the point, if someone put something adulterated in my food that made me sick, I’d beat their ass and I’d beat it good. I was exaggerating the day after day thing, but you can bet your ass you’d be my enemy from that point further and I’m not even sure what I’d do when I cross paths with an enemy. One time, I walked out of the bar b/c I didn’t want to be arrested “that night”. Another time, another place, I can be in “I don’t give a fuck mode”. [/quote]
I don’t know, a kid walking up with a gun better be able to aim quick, given the scenario discussed. And he better shoot to kill because any self respecting Texan (not a re-located asshole who claims Texas) expecting trouble would have a large caliber pistol they know how to aim in a convenient spot to grab on their person, in their truck, home, office et cetera (many Texans have this with no expectation of trouble at all).
And at home we tend to have an armory. I personally have various hunting rifles, pistols, assault rifles and shotguns and know how to use them all very well. I am not alone in my love of guns.
If the kid snuck up and put one in back of the head, sure, he wins hands down and was a sneaky pussy. If he comes up in front he leaves a wide door for his own death to enter. You personally know getting shot doesn’t always equal death or even drop a guy, and that’s assuming the kid makes his shot. Granted I’ve never seen the real mob in action but I just don’t see people here cowering and begging for life and forgiveness.
You talk about culture, ours can be traced back to the Alamo where 200 Texans stood against 5000 mexicans, killing over half of them, for the better part of a week. Eventually they were overtaken but then the Battle of San Jacinto happened, where 800 Texans attacked 1400 Mexicans. The battle lasted 18 minutes and 700 Mexicans were killed as opposed to 9 Texans. Texas then became an independent country and then the greatest state in the entire US.
Strength in numbers will win in time, every time no doubt but the imagined mobsters wouldn’t have the same element of fear and intimidation they undoubtedly rely on. Whoever they target would potentially go out guns blazing.
Plus, to add a twist, we don’t all live in a little box and travel the public transport line. Technically if I was being stalked personally, I’d report to the police and then bait my stalkers to a ranch, replete with catch dogs, guns most people think only the military has access too, a lay of the land, deer blinds, ravines, crevices, hills et cetera. I’d bring some of my own crazy buddies with me and we would be talking armed trespass on private property. It would be an absolute slaughter.
Given the scenario, I wouldn’t be hanging out at Lou’s Italian Diner “unawares”. I’d take them right out of their element and in to mine, which you have a taste for with your Floridian uncle and hog hunting experience, but I’m guessing you are the exception to the rule.
This conversation could go on for hours with no real point though.
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the point is you’re missing the point.
around here, if someone wants you dead, they will walk up to you and shoot you. period. no warning, no fan fare. pop pop pop pop pop. and keep walking. please man. i seen plenty of cats chalked out gun still in waistband. one of my best friends went out like that. is texas some different planet? stop with the texas pride. it’s ridiculous. they get stretched in houston just like here. you just don’t move in that world, that’s why you’re giving me imaginary scenarios that have NOTHING to do with that reality - no offense.
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It would take a pussy move, I agreed to that (and here we go with the egocentrism I listed earlier :), around there… but I’m here…not that ego is a bad thing or abnormal)
And the kid better shoot to kill. It would have to be a surprise. I know who comes to my house and my office before they see me, either by announcement or alarm (and I do keep a gun at the office, mostly just because I like them). He would have to surprise me in public and he would have to make a critical shot.
Given the scenario though, an angry guy repeat assaulting getting popped and his crew coming after the shooter for revenge, I would take it to the ranch.
I do live in that world and I would own it. I don’t have to play in theirs if I don’t want to, mine is just as real and if they are after me, they can “come and take it” speaking of Texas.
I don’t claim invincibility, I just don’t think a “crew” would live up to it’s Hollywood reputation out of it’s element. It would be like wrestling an alligator in the water.
People are people, take the element of surprise from a mobster and he’s just a dude in a track suit with a small caliber pistol he probably can’t even aim at more than ten feet.
And if the importance of a cultural impact in the northeast leads to scary kids with guns, it does the same for people shooting back here.
Anyways, a hot pepper sandwhich would be hilarious. Would be even more hilarious if it actually led to some kind of mafia/redneck showdown/shoot out (And so far we’ve been assuming the Texan would be on the defensive). Kind of like the movie “Cowboys and Aliens”. I’d watch this movie.
HoustonGuy, you’re really not getting the point. Around our way no one will try to sneak into your house or office or whatever you’re blabbing about. They will point blank unload a clip in your chest while you are walking in the streets in front of anyone… People around here simply don’t give a fuck, especially about jail.