GF Sex Drive is Significantly Lower than Mine

You said: "Ultimately it’s not important that she initiates, other than the fact when we’re doing it I want to know that she wants it as much as me, and that she’s not simply doing it to please me or to get me to shut up. It’s about desire, I want to be desired in the relationship. If that makes sense? "

While this seems like it should be a good thing, it is a lot of pressure to put on a woman; particularly if it takes her a while to cum. I’ve been there. I’m about to fall asleep and my ex wants to mess around. I look at the clock and just don’t have the energy for a whole production. I’ve tried in the past to tell him that it is OK if I don’t cum and we can just have a quickie, but he takes it as a personal afront to his manhood and pushes it.

He actually goes so far as to imply that I am “Not normal”. Occasionally I give in and he pounds away, ineffectively, no less. My mind wanders. I begin to dry up from the friction. I just want it to end, but feel like I am being held hostage until I orgasm which just makes the whole thing worse. He finally finishes and attacks me for not being “connected enough” for not finding him hot enough, or whatever is bothering him that day.

Fast forward to my current BF. Awesome, sheet soaking sex. But every so often, I am just tired. Or, more likely the case, sore. I don’t have the energy for another marathon round so we just have a quickie. And its not about me being some masturbatory aid, it is just an adult realization that we are not always going to be in sync, and compromises need to be made. Once we get into it, I more than likely finish as well, but there is no expectation, which allows me to keep my focus on him and his pleasure and not get tangled in my brain.

You are very young and given the length of your post explaining how incredibly awesome you are, I would guess that you are running some playbook in your head about how to be the perfect guy. Is that real? Are you really that person, or are you creating a persona to please her? Yes. Sex can be about desire, but sometimes it is just fucking. Its about enjoying the journey; each other’s bodies. It can be dirty or it can be funny. My guess is that you are both too young to really know what you want or how to ask the other person for it (not a personal attack, I didn’t know at that age either).

As others have pointed out, if the sex is not working now, it will likely not get better. Two varying sex drives is a disaster for a relationship. Just as you don’t want someone to tell you how little sex you can have, she might not want someone telling her how much she should have. You need to find a person who is on the same schedule as you. Sure you love her, but there are a bazillion women in the world and you can find someone else who is all the things she is AND wants sex as much as you do. Trying to change someone is going to lead to resentment. Man up. Talk to her about it. If you both want different things, why continue?

Edit: Sorry I screwed up the age thing. This is the last time I listen to AC :wink:

I’m going to agree with everyone else; it’s not going to get better.

The thing is, I can feel some compassion towards your GF because whatever happened to her obviously caused her some harm. But, when you put yourself on the market to date, it is with the understanding that you’re in Good Working Order. That doesn’t mean you’re perfect, but it does mean that you’ve worked through your significant issues or at a minimum, are aware of them and currently taking steps to grow. Your GF didn’t do that. She put herself out there as ready-to-be-in-a-relationship, and she’s not.

There is not reason why you shouldn’t be getting blow jobs if you want them. Blow jobs are a minimum requirement in this day and age. A woman who won’t give them is either selfish or sexually wounded. In either case, it’s a huge red flag. Could you imagine if your GF asked you to rub her shoulders and you said, “no, i’m sorry but I don’t do that. I tried it a few times with a previous GF and don’t like it”? Your either selfish or a headcase. Either way, not relationship material.

Basically, the two of you aren’t sexually compatible. And that’s a perfectly fine reason to end a relationship. Like PP said in another thread, sex is the glue that holds a relationship together. It’s the one unique thing you save for each other.

Things need to change and you need to sack up and use your words and tell her that this relationship isn’t working for you right now and give her the chance to respond. It sounds like it’s working for her just fine so you need to push for what you want. If you don’t, and if you wind up in a LT relationship with her, I guarantee 10 years from now your going to be jerking off to blow job porn, cruising the CL Casual Encounters, wondering how you made such bad choices when you were younger.

get your hands on some of that androgel stuff they use to treat low T in men. Rub liberally on your arms. When she comes home, give her a big hug. Make sure your arms come into contact with her skin.

Enjoy!

Six weeks from now, he’ll start a post…

“How do I tell my girlfriend to shave her moustache?”

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Six weeks from now, he’ll start a post…

“How do I tell my girlfriend to shave her moustache?”[/quote]

lol!

Na, he’ll be too busy enjoying Magnum PI blowjob heaven!

Un-fucking-real what happened in this thread (I disagree with these guys a lot lol) but:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

Dude you bust up inside and then go down in it? Damn dawg. I dunno bout that.[/quote]

You can scramble an animal’s brains but you can’t chow down in less than optimal conditions? Please tell me you have your red wings at least.[/quote]

100% agree with Bismark. Shit man, if it bothers you that much, keep your mouth north and use fingers. It’s just you, not Mr Jones from down the street.

[quote]Severiano wrote:
If she’s on the pill that may have something to do with it.

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And this. 100% this.

Women off the pill > women on the pill. That shit does awful things to her, her moods and sex drive.

(That said if you’re stupid, don’t go there, babies kill sexytime more than anything on earth.)

Strong post by SP.

Would wife her.

[quote]tsantos wrote:
Did you sneeze at the wrong time or hand her the wrong cup to drink out of?

Once or twice a week is normal after about a year… Welcome to the real world (or find someone with a high sex drive - who might cheat on you).

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No, it’s not normal.

As a side note, I just started back on Se7en and Fahrenheit…I’m not sure which one it is but I am suddenly rather, erm, FRIENDLY.

True story.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
The girl has been raped or sexually abused. Those are her “demons”, right?

She’s damaged goods, bro.

If you love her, help her work through it with a therapist or something (which could take YEARS and possibly never work - once broken, a woman is hard to “fix”). But if you don’t , then cut her loose and find someone you are more sexually compatible with.

You’re 20 fuckin years old… Go find a girl without so many issues.[/quote]

Agreed with the demons very much being way more than you know unless shes opened up completely. If she is someone you want to spend your life with work through it with her. If not get out now before you scar her and yourself further

From personal experience with a girl with those types of demons you can work through it and it can be healed. It takes patience but if its the right person its very worth it.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
You said: "Ultimately it’s not important that she initiates, other than the fact when we’re doing it I want to know that she wants it as much as me, and that she’s not simply doing it to please me or to get me to shut up. It’s about desire, I want to be desired in the relationship. If that makes sense? "

While this seems like it should be a good thing, it is a lot of pressure to put on a woman; particularly if it takes her a while to cum. I’ve been there. I’m about to fall asleep and my ex wants to mess around. I look at the clock and just don’t have the energy for a whole production. I’ve tried in the past to tell him that it is OK if I don’t cum and we can just have a quickie, but he takes it as a personal afront to his manhood and pushes it.

He actually goes so far as to imply that I am “Not normal”. Occasionally I give in and he pounds away, ineffectively, no less. My mind wanders. I begin to dry up from the friction. I just want it to end, but feel like I am being held hostage until I orgasm which just makes the whole thing worse. He finally finishes and attacks me for not being “connected enough” for not finding him hot enough, or whatever is bothering him that day.

Fast forward to my current BF. Awesome, sheet soaking sex. But every so often, I am just tired. Or, more likely the case, sore. I don’t have the energy for another marathon round so we just have a quickie. And its not about me being some masturbatory aid, it is just an adult realization that we are not always going to be in sync, and compromises need to be made. Once we get into it, I more than likely finish as well, but there is no expectation, which allows me to keep my focus on him and his pleasure and not get tangled in my brain.

You are very young and given the length of your post explaining how incredibly awesome you are, I would guess that you are running some playbook in your head about how to be the perfect guy. Is that real? Are you really that person, or are you creating a persona to please her? Yes. Sex can be about desire, but sometimes it is just fucking. Its about enjoying the journey; each other’s bodies. It can be dirty or it can be funny. My guess is that you are both too young to really know what you want or how to ask the other person for it (not a personal attack, I didn’t know at that age either).

As others have pointed out, if the sex is not working now, it will likely not get better. Two varying sex drives is a disaster for a relationship. Just as you don’t want someone to tell you how little sex you can have, she might not want someone telling her how much she should have. You need to find a person who is on the same schedule as you. Sure you love her, but there are a bazillion women in the world and you can find someone else who is all the things she is AND wants sex as much as you do. Trying to change someone is going to lead to resentment. Man up. Talk to her about it. If you both want different things, why continue?

Edit: Sorry I screwed up the age thing. This is the last time I listen to AC :wink:
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Another winner. Remove the need for an expectations of orgasm and have fun with eachother and magically orgasms all over the place then

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
You said: "Ultimately it’s not important that she initiates, other than the fact when we’re doing it I want to know that she wants it as much as me, and that she’s not simply doing it to please me or to get me to shut up. It’s about desire, I want to be desired in the relationship. If that makes sense? "

While this seems like it should be a good thing, it is a lot of pressure to put on a woman; particularly if it takes her a while to cum. I’ve been there. I’m about to fall asleep and my ex wants to mess around. I look at the clock and just don’t have the energy for a whole production. I’ve tried in the past to tell him that it is OK if I don’t cum and we can just have a quickie, but he takes it as a personal afront to his manhood and pushes it.

He actually goes so far as to imply that I am “Not normal”. Occasionally I give in and he pounds away, ineffectively, no less. My mind wanders. I begin to dry up from the friction. I just want it to end, but feel like I am being held hostage until I orgasm which just makes the whole thing worse. He finally finishes and attacks me for not being “connected enough” for not finding him hot enough, or whatever is bothering him that day.

Fast forward to my current BF. Awesome, sheet soaking sex. But every so often, I am just tired. Or, more likely the case, sore. I don’t have the energy for another marathon round so we just have a quickie. And its not about me being some masturbatory aid, it is just an adult realization that we are not always going to be in sync, and compromises need to be made. Once we get into it, I more than likely finish as well, but there is no expectation, which allows me to keep my focus on him and his pleasure and not get tangled in my brain.

You are very young and given the length of your post explaining how incredibly awesome you are, I would guess that you are running some playbook in your head about how to be the perfect guy. Is that real? Are you really that person, or are you creating a persona to please her? Yes. Sex can be about desire, but sometimes it is just fucking. Its about enjoying the journey; each other’s bodies. It can be dirty or it can be funny. My guess is that you are both too young to really know what you want or how to ask the other person for it (not a personal attack, I didn’t know at that age either).

As others have pointed out, if the sex is not working now, it will likely not get better. Two varying sex drives is a disaster for a relationship. Just as you don’t want someone to tell you how little sex you can have, she might not want someone telling her how much she should have. You need to find a person who is on the same schedule as you. Sure you love her, but there are a bazillion women in the world and you can find someone else who is all the things she is AND wants sex as much as you do. Trying to change someone is going to lead to resentment. Man up. Talk to her about it. If you both want different things, why continue?

Edit: Sorry I screwed up the age thing. This is the last time I listen to AC :wink:
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Another winner. Remove the need for an expectations of orgasm and have fun with eachother and magically orgasms all over the place then
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Add me to the list of head-nodders, SP. Good post.

OP…Look up shiny white knight syndrome (SWKS)…ask yourself if you have it…if yes…ask if you’re OK with that…if yes deal with saving this girl…if not gtfo.

I had SWKS until I met She Say. Lots of time wasted trying to be Dr. Phil.

[quote]sen say wrote:
OP…Look up shiny white knight syndrome (SWKS)…ask yourself if you have it…if yes…ask if you’re OK with that…if yes deal with saving this girl…if not gtfo.

I had SWKS until I met She Say. Lots of time wasted trying to be Dr. Phil.[/quote]
Where you been, Sen?

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]oakwood-jones wrote:
she loves touching it until it’s hard and then still not having sex
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wtf?

[quote]oakwood-jones wrote:
I for whatever reason come before she does, I will at that point go down on her and make sure that the job is finished
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Dude you bust up inside and then go down in it? Damn dawg. I dunno bout that.[/quote]

Lol…

Gross.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]oakwood-jones wrote:
she loves touching it until it’s hard and then still not having sex
[/quote]
wtf?

[quote]oakwood-jones wrote:
I for whatever reason come before she does, I will at that point go down on her and make sure that the job is finished
[/quote]
Dude you bust up inside and then go down in it? Damn dawg. I dunno bout that.[/quote]

You can scramble an animal’s brains but you can’t chow down in less than optimal conditions? Please tell me you have your red wings at least.[/quote]

Lol…

Gross (assuming by red wings you mean munchin while on her period). Blood on the dick is fine.