what the fuck is a deadlift?
[quote]dshroy wrote:
what the fuck is a deadlift?[/quote]
It’s where you lift a dead weight. Killing it first is the hard part.
[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
[quote]dshroy wrote:
what the fuck is a deadlift?[/quote]
It’s where you lift a dead weight. Killing it first is the hard part.[/quote]
Killing is wrong, so all deadlifters are going to hell.
I go to an non-hardcore gym and the truth is that you probably think that most people lie about the weight because; 1-they do, and 2-if you work out at a health club/fitness style gym you will rarely, if ever find anyone actually trying to push themselves in anything besides bench press and isolation movements for the triceps/biceps. I know a few guys who work out in there garage and they are all monsters and lift serious weight, because they actually care about progress and strength and not JV bodybuilding.
Squatting sucks until you learn to love the progress, same with deadlift. If someone actually pushes themselves consistently and learns to love the “suck” factor of squatting/deadlifting you can add serious poundage relatively quickly to a certain point.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Anyhow, I’ve finally figured it out…
If you add 160 pounds to the weight on the bar (240) pounds, you get 400 pounds. The numbers now make more sense.
I wish someone had let me in on this secret earlier: it would have saved me much confusion.[/quote]
I get what u mean when u mentioned abt 160 lb dude pulling 400s but are u serious in the above statement? Seems a bit like trolling to me, only that u are lvl 4…
I watched a few guys pull 12 plates the other day. It was so awesome that I hung around after my workout to wactch em do it. They were huge but they were also really tall so I didn’t think it was probable. I thought they’d miss the lift.
One dude steps up, misses the lift. Trys again and nails it for one rep.
His buddy comes up, looking all sorts of ‘‘I’m about to murder this shit’’ and bangs out about 5 reps. I was in awe at the strength and his form was kept well the whole time.
That made my little 405 lb. set of three feel so small : (
I’m currently 6’0 205lbs. In just over a year of training I took my DL from 185x5 - 405x1. Deadlift is definitely my strongest lift though. I think it really has to do a lot with training environment. The gym I train at at school is very “commercial gym.” No one deadlifts, a few people squat (badly) and everyone basically just benches. I rarely go over 350 when training there.
When I pulled 405 however I was at a hardcore gym that I train at back home, surrounded by pro athletes, coaches and US marines. When people are pulling 450+ and 500 like its easy, you pull 405 if you want to have any dignity left after the workout lol.
For the record I don’t really consider myself that strong. I agree with whoever said compare yourself to the best out there. If people are DLing up to 1000 lbs, then 400 is pretty puny.
I came home from the after three years of non-training and pulled a 405 within three weeks of deadlifting 2x a week, squatting 2x a week, and working out twice a day every day. I am also 285 lbs, 6’1" with a 31" inseam, so my mechanics are pretty good- long arms and short legs.
Maybe I’m ignorant but I thought 400 lbs was nothing. There are kids on YOUTUBE doing lifts in the 500 lb range making me feel like a weakling. Is 400 lbs a good lift? If so how come there are so many kids out there outlifting me? Maybe it’s evolution and I’m being weeded out.
Can somebody correct me if I’m wrong???
[quote]byukid wrote:
I came home from the after three years of non-training and pulled a 405 within three weeks of deadlifting 2x a week, squatting 2x a week, and working out twice a day every day. I am also 285 lbs, 6’1" with a 31" inseam, so my mechanics are pretty good- long arms and short legs.[/quote]
6’1" with a 31" inseam!? You lucky bastard. What’s your squat?
[quote]blim004 wrote:
Maybe I’m ignorant but I thought 400 lbs was nothing. There are kids on YOUTUBE doing lifts in the 500 lb range making me feel like a weakling. Is 400 lbs a good lift? If so how come there are so many kids out there outlifting me? Maybe it’s evolution and I’m being weeded out.
Can somebody correct me if I’m wrong???[/quote]
Since we’ve already bumped this:
It isn’t nothing, but it’s sort of the first bench-mark for serious training (regarding the deadlift, I mean). You don’t need to have astoundingly superior genetics to be able to pull it, either.
That said, it’s still amazing how FEW people in normal gyms ever pull more than 2 plates at a time.
[quote]grettiron wrote:
[quote]byukid wrote:
I came home from the after three years of non-training and pulled a 405 within three weeks of deadlifting 2x a week, squatting 2x a week, and working out twice a day every day. I am also 285 lbs, 6’1" with a 31" inseam, so my mechanics are pretty good- long arms and short legs.[/quote]
6’1" with a 31" inseam!? You lucky bastard. What’s your squat?[/quote]
I’ve hit 475, just missed 495 this week after lots of leg pressing, so I would guess 515 ish
I’m sure nobody has deadlifted 405 in my gym. There’s a number of guys who look like they could do it but they are all shockingly weak. There’s one guy who I’m sure could do it but I don’t think he deadlifts. He seems to only do high reps with short range of motion and various angles.
I saw a guy last spring, he looked like he had been a college lineman and was looking to stay in shape. He was about 6’1 240 about 25yo. He progressed up to 385 on the Trap bar using raised handles and failed at 385. I did 385 about a week earlier without the raised handles. I had an impulse to go for a double and think I might have gotten it but thought better of it. I weigh 190 and consider myself very week.
400lbs…so 182.5 kgs in Brit-speak.
It’s really not very much. A fairly decent bench I’d say.
Chances are if a guy (of any weight) is deadlifting on a regular basis and still hasn’t been within shooting distance of 200kg within a year, then he needs to reevaluate their training and/or nutrition.
I don’t even think it’s a case of it being something you’d have to train particularly hard for - it should be within range for someone who is coasting through their training, let alone someone who is making a concerted effort.
I have to agree with the consensus about commercial gyms though, I only train in a commercial place once in a blue moon, and occasionally you see a strong dude, but in reality you can’t really go to place like that and expect to see guys deadlifting and squatting, and certainly not someone putting up big numbers. Anyone who cares to educate themselves about effective training usually moves on to better facilities.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
[quote]blim004 wrote:
Maybe I’m ignorant but I thought 400 lbs was nothing. There are kids on YOUTUBE doing lifts in the 500 lb range making me feel like a weakling. Is 400 lbs a good lift? If so how come there are so many kids out there outlifting me? Maybe it’s evolution and I’m being weeded out.
Can somebody correct me if I’m wrong???[/quote]
Since we’ve already bumped this:
It isn’t nothing, but it’s sort of the first bench-mark for serious training (regarding the deadlift, I mean). You don’t need to have astoundingly superior genetics to be able to pull it, either.
That said, it’s still amazing how FEW people in normal gyms ever pull more than 2 plates at a time.
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I would say how very FEW people pull at all. I am the only person at my gym that deadlifts at all. Plenty of guys use the trap bar to shrug but never deadlift.
somebody said earlier “I’ll bet there are more people on this forum that can lift big weight and never say so, than there are people claiming to lift big weight”
I would definitely have to agree with that.A lot of people that lift big weights are so used to being strong that they don’t need to post their numbers or youtube videos of themselves lifting or wear wife beaters in public. They use this site to gain information but not boast about themselves.
It seems that everyone assumes that most people on this site are hardcore lifters. The guy that told me about this site works out at the gym I go to is a 50 year old man that is a skinny fat 6’0 160 lbs soaking wet. I see all these kids at my gym that wear bb.com tshirts that look like they’ve been lifting for 2 months resting infront of the dumbell rack in between sets of curls. (i know that bb.com is much different) but what’s to say that they’re not on here too.
I work out at my local rec center and have been going there for about 8 years consistently and in that whole time I have seen 2 people deadlift over 400 lbs both of which still go there and I see on a regular basis. One of them is a 20 year old 185 lb. mesomorph ripped kid and the other is a ~ 40 year old man that’s a little over 200 lbs that always looks like he’s loaded on creatine. Being able to deadlift 400 + lbs. is NOT easy, sure it is easy if you do it consistently and are disciplined enough to eat a chicken breast every 4 hours but most people can’t do that.
On memorial day I was at a cookout and this guy I know came up to me and starting talking to me about wanting to start taking creatine. He is short and chunky and looks weak I wanted to tell him you really shouldn’t because you’re really not at the point where you need it without being rude so I asked him WHY? he said because I want to get BIG. I asked him if he squats and deadlifts he told me he squats but inconsistently and whispered to me so noone around us could here him “what is a deadlift”. I told him what it was told him that if he squats and deadlifts on a regular basis he will get stronger without having to take creatine since they naturally increase T levels. I told him whole time I’ve been working out never felt the need to take creatine or any supplements other than protein and glutamine because as long as my squats and deadlifts were getting stronger everything else followed. Nobody wants to deadlift because it’s “hard” it hurts it’s uncomfortable they don’t like the feeling of their soul leaving their body and returning 10 secs after they put the weight down. And if you can dl of 400+ lbs. good for you don’t let anyone tell you that’s not impressive because it is.
Paragraphs, dude.
Wall of text is fail.
[quote]thefreshmanverve wrote:
and the other is a ~ 40 year old man that’s a little over 200 lbs that always looks like he’s loaded on creatine. Being able to deadlift 400 + lbs. is NOT easy, sure it is easy if you do it consistently and are disciplined enough to eat a chicken breast every 4 hours but most people can’t do that.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I look around my gym and am like “damn, all these guys look so loaded on creatine”. I also think your second point is right on the money. I was stuck at 350 for the longest time, then BAM! Started eating a chicken breast every 4 hours (I even did this through the night because I consider myself quite the hardcore fella), and it’s like God himself bestowed upon me 50 additional pounds of deadlift glory. Really a quality post there.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]thefreshmanverve wrote:
and the other is a ~ 40 year old man that’s a little over 200 lbs that always looks like he’s loaded on creatine. Being able to deadlift 400 + lbs. is NOT easy, sure it is easy if you do it consistently and are disciplined enough to eat a chicken breast every 4 hours but most people can’t do that.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I look around my gym and am like “damn, all these guys look so loaded on creatine”. I also think you’re second point is right on the money. I was stuck at 350 for the longest time, then BAM! Started eating a chicken breast every 4 hours (I even did this through the night because I consider myself quite the hardcore fella), and it’s like God himself bestowed upon me 50 additional pounds of deadlift glory. Really a quality post there.
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I’m on board as well. Been stuck at 565 for months now on my deadlift. NOW…72 hours and 18 chicken breasts later…WHAM! 600 popped right up! I am so…stoked!
(BTW, can any of you tell if I’m on creatine just by looking at me? Just wondering. I’m hoping it’s not obvious)
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It’s obvious. Judging by the cell phone pics thread, I’d say you use the powder version, probably loaded at 25g for around 19 to 25 days. Then a brief taper down to your maintenance level at 5-10g, and you run this for about 20 weeks total. I’ve seen a lot of creatine physiques, and you are not the liquid type. Liquid creatine users have more of a synthol look to them. Trust me, I know. I’m a lifter.