Getting to a 400 lb. Deadlift

Honestly, I think there are a lot of liars on this site. I check this site out once in a blue moon and each time I do it is always the same people putting down other people.

What I find funny is these super strong people have all the time in the world to cruise this site and put a reply on half of the treads in here and some of these replys very lengthy. Whe do these great lifters work out? What a joke.

400 is i nice deadlift among people who lift for a hobby. for guys that are power lifters and compete it won’t be enough. Who cares any way. what ever you do, if you are the average lifter, do not go by what these people on this site say they can lift because half of them are full of crap. Go for personal bests and believe me before long you will be stronger and bigger than most of the liars on here.

You forgot to apologize for hijacking this thread. That’s troll like behavior. No it couldn’t be you have over 1000 posts.

I apologize in advance for responding to your hijack.

[quote]Petedacook wrote:

I think you enjoyed it.[/quote]

You’re right I did. Thanks for the opportunity to once again point out that it’s a dumb move to sign a contract without reading it. Now that doesn’t mean you’re dumb. I know how sensitive you are…

Yes it is. Many were kissing your ass and blaming the big bad company and I called you on it for not reading BEFORE you signed. You hated that. Just man up to it and move on.

While I have not posted I have been reading this site including the message boards for a very long time. If someone remains silent until they want to speak does that give them less rights than the overly verbose?

You’re joking right?

Probably well over 95% of the people on this site have not posted pictures of themselves. While I don’t blame anyone for posting a photo you certainly cannot blame anyone for not posting one. If so you would be busy attacking just about everyone.

Neither do you. Remember, I have been reading the forum for a long time.

[quote]Hence my opinion, you suck, and your posts suck, eventhough I may chuckle at them from time to time.
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If you chuckle at them then they can’t all suck. Glad to provide you with a laugh now and then.

Now please, if you want to continue this PM me. Let’s not further disturb this thread. As a long time poster surely you know that this is inappropriate.

[quote]Politico wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
ExNole wrote:
Politico wrote:
I’m not “big” and I can deadlift 420. If I can do that, it ain’t that big of a deal.

Dude, you posted in another thread about pulling close to 500 for six.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1481557

LMAO. Niiiiice find!

Then again, he needs straps to pull 500 for 6. Politico must’ve meant he can pull 420 without straps. Or something like that.

WOW.

420 without straps 1 rep. 495 for 5 or 6 with straps[/quote]

My grip is my weak point too. I wonder how much heavier I could go with straps.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Politico wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
ExNole wrote:
Politico wrote:
I’m not “big” and I can deadlift 420. If I can do that, it ain’t that big of a deal.

Dude, you posted in another thread about pulling close to 500 for six.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1481557

LMAO. Niiiiice find!

Then again, he needs straps to pull 500 for 6. Politico must’ve meant he can pull 420 without straps. Or something like that.

WOW.

420 without straps 1 rep. 495 for 5 or 6 with straps

My grip is my weak point too. I wonder how much heavier I could go with straps.[/quote]

500 for 6 is putting one around a 575 1RM. So, he’s claiming straps give him 150 pounds. Highly unlikely. I used to have terrible grip strength and had at most around a 50 pound difference. My point is don’t expect much more than a 40 pound gain.

[quote]Edders wrote:

Yes it is. Many were kissing your ass and blaming the big bad company and I called you on it for not reading BEFORE you signed. You hated that. Just man up to it and move on.

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Actually, I chose not to entertain you. I read the contract, and it says it is transferable. But I preferred to ask you to go away. Remember? I asked several times in this thread for you to QUIT TROLLING and go away, but you chose not to and continue to push the issue:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1464029

You are just like every other troll that says they have been reading for a long time and just now chose to respond.

Perhaps there is a reason you had nothing to say for such a long time. Too bad that is still not the case.

Umm, no. No joke. Lets take a look at you if you are such a bad ass. I can assure you would act different if you were in a position I could get my hands on you.

Incorrect. 95% of the people on this board do not go from thread to thread trolling as you seem to do.

Actually, yes I do and I have earned it. Maybe you would know this if you were not such a troll.

Check my profile.

Take a challenge. Fucking tool.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1300566

Yea, I sent you a PM. Your a troll and tool. You should go to a forum other than a bodybuilding site. You have nothing of substance to add here.

I curl in the squat rack, with 10 lbs on each side.

I do this while looking at the big guy with his girlfriend, bi$t!in about how he can’t squat in the power rack because he is doing too much weight and if he “can’t get it up” he will fall.

In fact I add a few sets.

Wow, I must be bored…

400 is not impressive for 165. I started lifting at 138 pounds at 6 feet tall, my first deadlift session ever hit 335, my first squat session hit 135 pounds. Tall lanky guys can deadlift, I’m impressed with a squat.

That said, I didn’t hit 405 until I added around 20 pounds to my frame, you still couldn’t tell if I lifted by looking at me with cloths on, but starting that small, you can imagine the frame. My point is that “most people” look pretty solid to lift that much.

But after all of that, I have to ask myself, who gives a shit.

Roland.

[quote]malonetd wrote:

500 for 6 is putting one around a 575 1RM. So, he’s claiming straps give him 150 pounds. Highly unlikely. I used to have terrible grip strength and had at most around a 50 pound difference. My point is don’t expect much more than a 40 pound gain.[/quote]

It seems a bit of a jump.

I am going to have to get some straps and see if I get a huge jump!

[quote]Roland Fisher wrote:
Wow, I must be bored…

I started lifting at 138 pounds at 6 feet tall, my first deadlift session ever hit 335,[/quote]

damn starting off with a 2.4 BW deadlift is pretty impresive

[quote]n3wb wrote:
Roland Fisher wrote:
Wow, I must be bored…

I started lifting at 138 pounds at 6 feet tall, my first deadlift session ever hit 335,

damn starting off with a 2.4 BW deadlift is pretty impresive
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Well if you are impressed with that then you will love this. I was 102.5 pounds in the sixth grade and I dead lifted my dads chevette that weighed 2125 pounds which is 20.7 x my bodyweight.

[quote]BIGERIC wrote:
n3wb wrote:
Roland Fisher wrote:
Wow, I must be bored…

I started lifting at 138 pounds at 6 feet tall, my first deadlift session ever hit 335,

damn starting off with a 2.4 BW deadlift is pretty impresive

Well if you are impressed with that then you will love this. I was 102.5 pounds in the sixth grade and I dead lifted my dads chevette that weighed 2125 pounds which is 20.7 x my bodyweight.[/quote]

You lifted the entire car off the ground?

[quote]malonetd wrote:
BIGERIC wrote:
n3wb wrote:
Roland Fisher wrote:
Wow, I must be bored…

I started lifting at 138 pounds at 6 feet tall, my first deadlift session ever hit 335,

damn starting off with a 2.4 BW deadlift is pretty impresive

Well if you are impressed with that then you will love this. I was 102.5 pounds in the sixth grade and I dead lifted my dads chevette that weighed 2125 pounds which is 20.7 x my bodyweight.

You lifted the entire car off the ground?[/quote]

And if you didn’t…which side did you lift from?

[quote]Mister T. wrote:
The real question is this: Who cares? A 405 deadlift isn’t impressive - regardless of the weight of the person who does it.[/quote]

I think a 165lb dude who can pull 2.3x his bodyweight is impressive. Perhaps its not record shattering, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t impressive.

If I meet a baseball player who played in AAA but wasn’t good enough for the majors, I’m impressed. You gotta be pretty good to be at AAA. Sure you weren’t even good enough to be a shitty major leaguer, but its all relative. Perhaps I’m easily amused.

My 2 year old son just deadlifted 400lbs. Mind you he has been training hard for 6 months.

Seriously, this website has been a paradigm breaker for me. If you lift in the average gym you will hardly see anything inspiring and you won’t realize what is possible. When Roger Bannister broke the 4 minute mile barrier it was quickly broken over and over. 400 lbs is heavy for sure but if you think it is unattainable then it will be.

By being on this site you soon realize what heavy weights are being lifted by a lot of people of various sizes, gender, and body weight. However, people do lie on the net so yes most of the 165 pounders are full of shit but there are also some that are not. Raise the bar in your mind and you too can lift as much as my 2 year old at a body weight of 40lbs. By the way, I can do 1 arm deads out of a hole standing in sand with 550lbs.

Just because people are deadlifting 600, 700, 800 lbs, doesn’t make 400 lbs suddenly light. To say 400 lbs is light is retarded.

If you’re an elite powerlifter, you bet 400 lbs is a disappointment. But if you’re just a guy wanting to get strong for his own enjoyment, 400 lbs is nothing to be ashamed of. The only people we should compare ourselves to is ourselves.

[quote]summa wrote:
My 2 year old son just deadlifted 400lbs. Mind you he has been training hard for 6 months.
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Does he drink Muscle Milk?

[quote]mikren wrote:
summa wrote:
My 2 year old son just deadlifted 400lbs. Mind you he has been training hard for 6 months.

Does he drink Muscle Milk?[/quote]

Booby milk!

[quote]BIGERIC wrote:
n3wb wrote:
Roland Fisher wrote:
Wow, I must be bored…

I started lifting at 138 pounds at 6 feet tall, my first deadlift session ever hit 335,

damn starting off with a 2.4 BW deadlift is pretty impresive

Well if you are impressed with that then you will love this. I was 102.5 pounds in the sixth grade and I dead lifted my dads chevette that weighed 2125 pounds which is 20.7 x my bodyweight.[/quote]

I appreciate the humour, but I’ll maintiain that around 300 on a deadlift isn’t that rare. I grew up on a ranch and had to lift heavy shit everyday and I’m sure that had a part, but it seems that some are just built for a deadlift. Did you miss my pathetic squat?

Some would wonder how can you pull three plates and only squat one? Easy, built for deadlifting and trained it indirectly at work.

Part of my point was 335 was easy, 405 took around twenty pounds weight gain. Consider the punny frame that 20 pounds went onto (picture 6 feet and 138 pounds) and it becomes obvious that it took food and work. I really think that 400 pound deadlifts are more rare than people claim, it is like a threshold were you must start to add some meat to lift it… unless you’re training relative strength like Cressey has, but that isn’t the common gym rat.

I have no reason to puff up the DL, how could I care? I squated 135! I didn’t mention it earlier, but my max bench was 115! 2.4 x BW DL is cool, but not when the 3 lift total is only 4.2 times. That would be like a 240 pound powerlifter putting up a 1020 pound total… not squat, total.

I just wanted to highlight that some are just built to deadlift, but it seems that it usually takes some muscle to put up four wheels.

Roland.

Personally, I believe 300 pounds or more is a lot of weight no matter how it’s lifted. I tend to look at it this way: just because supercars today can get from 0-60 in under 3 seconds does not mean that an old muscle car doing the same in 7 seconds isn’t impressive or fast. Just because elite powerlifters can deadlift upwards of 1000 pounds does not mean that the average guy (regardless of body weight) deadlifting 300 or 400 pounds isn’t impressive. I think what really matters is setting personal goals and beating them and then making more to beat. As long as you’re working hard and following whatever plan works for you there’s nothing to be ashamed of. Currently, I’m in my 7th week of lifting after 6 years of not. The couple years (on and off) I did lift before were unorganized and sloppy. Count those two years if you will, but I see them as gaining some strength, but not nearly as much as if I had actually known anything about lifting. So, I’m currently in my 7th week of lifting. I’m 5’10.5" and weigh 226 lbs. After my 4th week when I was done with my lifts I decided to max. 200 bench (I tried 225 twice and failed but I feel I’m very close), 255 squat, and 310 deadlift.

My goals for the next max session (which will be a proper one done on an off week after week 16) are 235 bench, 300 squat and 350 deadlift. My medium term goals are 250 bench, 350 squat, and 400 deadlift. I believe my current maxes are impressive for most people, but I know I can do better, That is the entire point of setting goals. Long term, I want 300+ bench, 400 squat, and 600 deadlift. By the way, I lift in my garage and work each body part just once a week. I do not do deadlift as part of any routine. I only do it when I max. I feel straight leg deadlifts and squats help the deadlift. This works for me, so I’m sticking with it for now.

This always makes me chuckle to myself…

A) If people want to exaggerate their numbers that’s THEIR PROBLEM!

b) Incredulity, is a massive backhanded compliment (if said 160LBer is telling the truth).

c) People that lift weights, often have a pretty distorted view of what is & isn’t a lot of weight for a smaller, inexperienced dude…distorted POV + dudes feeling threatened= Lots of liars.