Solid OH press you’re sporting as well.
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Deadlift and OH Press are the two main strongman events!
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Trained yesterday. Set a PR. The trick for my deadlift is to spread my feet out a bit. Bracing problem and back rounding magically went away. 
BW: 170
Deadlift Redo (mid-shin)
135 x 2 x 5
185, 225, 275, 315 x 3
350 x 12 — PR
315 x 12
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Did these dehydrated, on no sleep, and my block pull platform fucked up the entire set (much wasted energy).
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1 x 55 w/ 53 pound KB (PR?)
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3 x 5 Box Jump (30”)
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25 Chin-ups (1 x 14 - fatigued PR, did sets until 25)
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just realized jim wendler would call me an athlete, i beat all of his benchmarks already. currently sporting a:
- 465 (estimated) DL max (2.75 times BW)
- 42” (x 10) Box Jump
- 20 chin-ups
- BW Strict Press (165-170)
here’s how fast 350 moves from mid-shin. all back, no leg drive.
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alright. i redid that stupid set of 350 and didn’t use straps. i also pulled dead-stop because i wanted to see how it felt. now i just have to get good at dead-stop reps again lol. pulling off pins is a bitch
deadlift (mid-shin)
135 x 2 x 5
185, 225, 275 x 3
315 x 1
350 x 6 (dead-stop)
375 x 1
315 x 8 (also dead-stop)
- 125 KB Swings (sets of 25 done w 30 sec. rest in between) w/ 53 lb. bell
(25 x 6)
grip isn’t compromised so that’s good. supporting the barbell on bench presses seems to be my only problem. OHP work tomorrow
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What trouble do you have with your bench press grip?
So I’m not against round-backed Pulls - the science is there to support them - but if you look at the video, you’re starting with a neutral back and loading the spine while curving it. If your back was round before the pull it would be one thing, but this:
happens before the weight leaves the floor. You may be feeling absolutely fine right now, but take it from the guy with 3 herniated discs - you do not want to add chronic back pain to the long list of tough shit you already deal with. Good pulls, good effort, not taking anything away from you.
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If I’m not mistaken- that’s for the upper back. Most people should never let their lower back round at any stage of the deadlift; though I’m sure there are people out there who can start the pull with a rounded lower back and get away with it, but they tend to have something special going on physiologically.
I’ve never heard of anyone say it’s ok to round your lower back as you start pulling though, and I agree with Flappinit here- it’s appears that your lower back rounds from the get-go. It becomes obvious as the reps go on.
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Honestly, lumbar rounding for me is scary as shit - but I have seen some strong people with some fairly rounded lumbars picking up some big weight, as long as the lumbar positioning stayed static through the initial liftoff. I could be totally wrong, and I don’t adhere to that philosophy or advise it for anyone, but whether or not it’s okay to have any rounding of the lumbar, we can all agree that tugging on weight and letting your spine round heavily while under load is a recipe for crippling injuries.
Agreed. Having your spine round at any point after you started the actual lift is a bad idea; unless you’re literally looking to be in the record books or something and don’t give a shit about what happens to you body.
I think super massive and muscular people who have practiced a very specific way may be able to handle starting the pull with a rounded lower back? Honestly, I find it really hard to see an individual’s positioning when they start going beyond 300lb.
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i believe a small deviation from spine in netrual alignment can work if the lifter manage to brace properly. if all compressive and shear forces are transmitted via the abs and the tensile forces through the erectors then the spine will be unloaded. if the spine is unloaded it can be in a funky shape without cracking.
however, if the spine is in perfect neutral form but loaded with compressive and shear forces, we can get Euler buckling of the spine, i.e. a visit to snap city. this could happen if the lifter focus on keeping the spine neutral but forget to brace. to brace properly the lifter should work with the abs so hard that the spine is unloaded and the tensile force in the erectors are at a minimum.
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@flappinit @magick i thought my back was in a better position than it has been in a while. the pulls felt secure, and there’s no lingering lower back pain - just the good kind of trap and hamstring soreness that accompanies properly executed heavy pulls. i did go for some gut-busting reps and may have gotten out of position, so that’s something to watch out for. but, my pull feels strong.
@whang long story short i punched too many walls, my right hand is flakey. gives out on me sometimes, can’t support the bar on bench presses (or my own BW on dips) without pain running through the wrist and finger joints.
@bonoboschimp bracing is definitely more important than back position, and fortunately i’m able to brace better with a wider conventional stance. my pull is also now approaching 200 kg, should be on par with yours. if i didn’t pull 350 x 12 three days before i pulled yesterday’s top set, i’m 110% sure 350 x 7-8 would have been there. doing three deadlift workouts in a week sapped my strength for this one, but i know there are a few more reps in the tank for next week when i pull from the floor (for the first time in 2 months).
350 x 7-8 from the floor (no straps, deadstop) @ a BW of 170 is next week’s goal. my E1RM should be 430-440. good enough for me, at least until i get to 200 pounds and pull 515.
currently, my deadlift is at 2.5x BW. The chase for more BW continues. getting to a triple BW pull will take a lot of work
also, fun fact about me: my test is at 850 ng/dL.
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that’s high yeah?
How many weeks has it been hurting? You may want to consider not doing anything that makes it hurt for 1 to 2 weeks. It may have small hair line fractures. Those should heal well on their own if allowed to rest
@duketheslaya bordering on abnormally so.
@whang it’s been hurting for months.
Oh man…dude have it checked
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it’s high, but normal. i’m 51 and i also have almost that level. my case could be due to supplement tongkat ali i use. lifters should have a low base level actually if what i’ve read is true.
the boundary for suspected chemical enhancement is 950 ng/dL. but yeah, it’s considered high-normal. i don’t supplement with anything and i have a history of drug use.
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95th percentile is 950 for under 25 year olds, so it’s not anything crazy. Just means you have a good hormonal profile for gainzzzzz. Use it!
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