I was watching the video of Jim Wendler at a seminar and he mentioned that Dave Tate had a goal to gain as much weight as possible and just get as big as he possibly could (not all muscle obviously). I think the idea of it is hilarious and generally awesome.
Is there any proof that this happened?
Here’s the first of the videos. I’m not sure which one he mentions it in, and I don’t have time to track it down at the moment.
I didn’t watch the video but just want to say I remember reading about Tate eating a whole box of Oreos and teaching readers how to squeeze two sausage and egg McMuffins together to get a good amount of calories in.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I didn’t watch the video but just want to say I remember reading about Tate eating a whole box of Oreos and teaching readers how to squeeze two sausage and egg McMuffins together to get a good amount of calories in.[/quote]
Hahah that is awesome. I can just see that image and how everyone in the room must have looked while he was doing that.
That is dated 2007
Way back in 2002 I went to a Dave Tate seminar in the Seattle area.
Some skinny dude there told Dave that no matter what he did he couldn’t gain weight… blah blah blah.
Dave told him to continue with his current diet but to also start eating one herseys chocolate bar every hour of the day that he was awake.
[quote]ranengin wrote:
Way back in 2002 I went to a Dave Tate seminar in the Seattle area.
Some skinny dude there told Dave that no matter what he did he couldn’t gain weight… blah blah blah.
Dave told him to continue with his current diet but to also start eating one herseys chocolate bar every hour of the day that he was awake.
[/quote]
Is there anywhere where this has been published?
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I didn’t watch the video but just want to say I remember reading about Tate eating a whole box of Oreos and teaching readers how to squeeze two sausage and egg McMuffins together to get a good amount of calories in.[/quote]
Oooooooooo, I remember that now! If you couldn’t eat the whole box you were supposed to smash up what was left and mix them in with a glass of milk or something.
I also remember something Dave might have wrote about too but I can’t be sure if it was him. You get two frozen pizzas, cook them, pour tons of olive oil on top of one pizza and put the other on top of it like a pizza sandwich. I tried this and ate most of it, however pizza that leaks isn’t terribly appetizing which caused me to miss my goal of eating the whole thing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It is funny because it is possibly the coolest fucking thing that I have heard in a long time. Most guys are stuck on having visible abs all the time, and here is this guy who already is a beast and wants to do the complete opposite and just get big/put on as much weigh as he can. I love the idea.
I was asking because I may try to do my own mini version of it in august and I thought it was a cool topic for discussion (definitely not the regular T-Nation “how do I get hyoooge and keep teh abs” type of post). I am thinking that I might be able to go from 200-205 to 220-225. This will put me at around 60 to 65 lbs of weight gain since the first of the year.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware that being 200-205 was a big deal on this site. Why hasn’t anyone made me a “Septimum, How Do You Train” thread? (Sarcasm)
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware that being 200-205 was a big deal on this site. Why hasn’t anyone made me a “Septimum, How Do You Train” thread? (Sarcasm)[/quote]
It is if you are 5’0".
Also this video was from 2007, do you go to the Elite website?
Here’s a quick story.
There was a time at the Old Westside gym where I couldn’t gain weight to save my fucking life.
There was this dude who trained there who could just put on weight like fucking magic. He’d go from 198 to 308 and then to 275 and back down to 198. And he was never fat. It was amazing.
I finally asked him one day how he did it.
“You mean I never told you the secret to gaining weight? Come outside and I’ll fill you in.”
Now remember, we’re at Westside Barbell. And this guy wants to go outside to talk so no one else can hear. Think about that for a minute. What the hell is he going to tell me? This must be some serious shit if we have to go outside, I thought.
So we get outside and he starts talking.
“For breakfast you need to eat four of those breakfast sandwiches from McDonalds. I don’t care which ones you get, but make sure to get four. Order four hash browns, too. Now grab two packs of mayonnaise and put them on the hash browns and then slip them into the sandwiches. Squish that shit down and eat. That’s your breakfast.”
At this point I’m thinking this guy is nuts. But he’s completely serious.
“For lunch you’re gonna eat Chinese food. Now I don’t want you eating that crappy stuff. You wanna get the stuff with MSG. None of that non-MSG bullshit. I don’t care what you eat but you have to sit down and eat for at least 45 minutes straight. You can’t let go of the fork. Eat until your eyes swell up and become slits and you start to look like the woman behind the counter.”
“For dinner you’re gonna order an extra-large pizza with everything on it. Literally everything. If you don’t like sardines, don’t put 'em on, but anything else that you like you have to load it on there. After you pay the delivery guy, I want you to take the pie to your coffee table, open that fucker up, and grab a bottle of oil. It can be olive oil, canola oil, whatever. Anything but motor oil. And I want you to pour that shit over the pie until half of the bottle is gone. Just soak the shit out of it.”
“Now before you lay into it, I want you to sit on your couch and just stare at that fucker. I want you to understand that that pizza right there is keeping you from your goals.”
This guy is in a zen-like state when he’s talking about this.
“Now you’re on the clock,” he continues. "After 20 minutes your brain is going to tell you you’re full. Don’t listen to that shit. You have to try and eat as much of the pizza as you can before that 20-minute mark. Double up pieces if you have to. I’m telling you now, you’re going to get three or four pieces in and you’re gonna want to quit. You fucking can’t quit. You have to sit on that couch until every piece is done.
And if you can’t finish it, don’t you ever come back to me and tell me you can’t gain weight. 'Cause I’m gonna tell you that you don’t give a fuck about getting bigger and you don’t care how much you lift!"
Did I do it? Hell yeah. Started the next day and did it for two months. Went from 260 pounds to 297 pounds. And I didn’t get much fatter. One of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my life, though.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware that being 200-205 was a big deal on this site. Why hasn’t anyone made me a “Septimum, How Do You Train” thread? (Sarcasm)[/quote]
It is if you are 5’0".
Also this video was from 2007, do you go to the Elite website?[/quote]
Yeah I didnt think about the height thing haha. I am 5’10" on a real good day.
No I haven’t been on there a whole lot. I’ll have to spend more time checking it out. I apologize if I am failing to do adequate research to stimulate a good conversation.
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware that being 200-205 was a big deal on this site. Why hasn’t anyone made me a “Septimum, How Do You Train” thread? (Sarcasm)[/quote]
It is if you are 5’0".
Also this video was from 2007, do you go to the Elite website?[/quote]
Yeah I didnt think about the height thing haha. I am 5’10" on a real good day.
No I haven’t been on there a whole lot. I’ll have to spend more time checking it out. I apologize if I am failing to do adequate research to stimulate a good conversation.[/quote]
No biggie, it is just this year he has dropped a ton of weight and was doing more BBing type workouts. There have been a few articles on TN about it. We had threads about this back in the day about this topic was fun.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Here’s a quick story.
There was a time at the Old Westside gym where I couldn’t gain weight to save my fucking life.
There was this dude who trained there who could just put on weight like fucking magic. He’d go from 198 to 308 and then to 275 and back down to 198. And he was never fat. It was amazing.
I finally asked him one day how he did it.
“You mean I never told you the secret to gaining weight? Come outside and I’ll fill you in.”
Now remember, we’re at Westside Barbell. And this guy wants to go outside to talk so no one else can hear. Think about that for a minute. What the hell is he going to tell me? This must be some serious shit if we have to go outside, I thought.
So we get outside and he starts talking.
“For breakfast you need to eat four of those breakfast sandwiches from McDonalds. I don’t care which ones you get, but make sure to get four. Order four hash browns, too. Now grab two packs of mayonnaise and put them on the hash browns and then slip them into the sandwiches. Squish that shit down and eat. That’s your breakfast.”
At this point I’m thinking this guy is nuts. But he’s completely serious.
“For lunch you’re gonna eat Chinese food. Now I don’t want you eating that crappy stuff. You wanna get the stuff with MSG. None of that non-MSG bullshit. I don’t care what you eat but you have to sit down and eat for at least 45 minutes straight. You can’t let go of the fork. Eat until your eyes swell up and become slits and you start to look like the woman behind the counter.”
“For dinner you’re gonna order an extra-large pizza with everything on it. Literally everything. If you don’t like sardines, don’t put 'em on, but anything else that you like you have to load it on there. After you pay the delivery guy, I want you to take the pie to your coffee table, open that fucker up, and grab a bottle of oil. It can be olive oil, canola oil, whatever. Anything but motor oil. And I want you to pour that shit over the pie until half of the bottle is gone. Just soak the shit out of it.”
“Now before you lay into it, I want you to sit on your couch and just stare at that fucker. I want you to understand that that pizza right there is keeping you from your goals.”
This guy is in a zen-like state when he’s talking about this.
“Now you’re on the clock,” he continues. "After 20 minutes your brain is going to tell you you’re full. Don’t listen to that shit. You have to try and eat as much of the pizza as you can before that 20-minute mark. Double up pieces if you have to. I’m telling you now, you’re going to get three or four pieces in and you’re gonna want to quit. You fucking can’t quit. You have to sit on that couch until every piece is done.
And if you can’t finish it, don’t you ever come back to me and tell me you can’t gain weight. 'Cause I’m gonna tell you that you don’t give a fuck about getting bigger and you don’t care how much you lift!"
Did I do it? Hell yeah. Started the next day and did it for two months. Went from 260 pounds to 297 pounds. And I didn’t get much fatter. One of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my life, though.[/quote]
Didn’t JM Blakely do that or something along those lines?
CS
I’ve seen the pizza thing accredited to Mr Blakely, who smashed bench records in something like 3 weight classes
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware that being 200-205 was a big deal on this site. Why hasn’t anyone made me a “Septimum, How Do You Train” thread? (Sarcasm)[/quote]
It is if you are 5’0".
Also this video was from 2007, do you go to the Elite website?[/quote]
Yeah I didnt think about the height thing haha. I am 5’10" on a real good day.
No I haven’t been on there a whole lot. I’ll have to spend more time checking it out. I apologize if I am failing to do adequate research to stimulate a good conversation.[/quote]
No biggie, it is just this year he has dropped a ton of weight and was doing more BBing type workouts. There have been a few articles on TN about it. We had threads about this back in the day about this topic was fun. [/quote]
I have seen him training with John Meadows. It’s really inspiring to see how hard those guys work.
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Septimum wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s funny about getting big like Dave Tate?[/quote]
It’s only funny if you’re big like the OP.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware that being 200-205 was a big deal on this site. Why hasn’t anyone made me a “Septimum, How Do You Train” thread? (Sarcasm)[/quote]
It is if you are 5’0".
Also this video was from 2007, do you go to the Elite website?[/quote]
Yeah I didnt think about the height thing haha. I am 5’10" on a real good day.
No I haven’t been on there a whole lot. I’ll have to spend more time checking it out. I apologize if I am failing to do adequate research to stimulate a good conversation.[/quote]
No biggie, it is just this year he has dropped a ton of weight and was doing more BBing type workouts. There have been a few articles on TN about it. We had threads about this back in the day about this topic was fun. [/quote]
I have seen him training with John Meadows. It’s really inspiring to see how hard those guys work.[/quote]
No doubt and they are my age so it is even more motivational for me.
[quote]caveman101 wrote:
I’ve seen the pizza thing accredited to Mr Blakely, who smashed bench records in something like 3 weight classes[/quote]
Yes, in another interview Dave identified Blakely as the one who gave him the advice.