One question for everyone - what is the reasoning between 0% fat cottage cheese going into “dairy” and not “protein”? The carbs? For the first few weeks, I had to make do with cottage cheese for protein… Cut that out by now, but wondering if that hindered my progress any.
Just got the book the other day. And where and what brand is good for Glutamine?
[quote]Bigbakes wrote:
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As for cheat meals - 3 so far have been more healthy - sushi, a lot though. One pizza night (and a couple of adult beverages).
This thing is so invidual i think… i didnt lose much initially, but in the last couple of days it seems to have flown off me, especially the midsection. Havent done my weekly weigh in to confirm, but damn… shiz works amazing.
Time for meal 4 - small steak, green salad.[/quote]
i’m finishing a CW 6 week get lean program, so ordered Get Jacked as my follow up. i’ve always done TBT so wanted something new. hardcore is good for me right now.
but cheat meals?? i’ve read that on low carb plans you need to hit up your leptin once a week, so perhaps this is the reason. i have not had bread, pizza, ice cream, yogurt etc for 8 weeks. it would be hard to cheat since i am feeling kind of desperate to get kill my bloat. 8% BF by calipers but still feel like i am carb bloated.
looking forward to following this thread as i close in on my start date.
[quote]alvinmathew88 wrote:
Just got the book the other day. And where and what brand is good for Glutamine? [/quote]
just get some pure glutamine from a trustworthy company. there’s a ton of options out there and they’re all pretty much the same stuff.
Holy fuck was last night’s deadlift workout brutal! I can’t believe I spent an hour doing deads and RDL’s and was able to walk out of the gym without help. I was worried I would still be destroyed for tonight’s session, but it turns out I was fine and just as strong as ever. I’m also progressing nicely on my push presses. I’m sure it’s mostly getting back in the groove and better form, but every time I do them lately, the weight just goes up and up. I like being able to put more than my bodyweight above my head for reps. It feels pretty cool!
I am finishing up week one. So far so good. No cravings, no problems following the diet. I am actually surprised how easy the diet part is (so far…it has only been one week, there is 11 more weeks to go).
Yes, the leg workout is a killer. I have only one problem: the damn glutamine for the PWO drink. How do you guys deal with the bloated feeling?
I am currently doing the program without glutamine because my order from the US has not arrived yet and the stuff is pretty pricey here in Switzerland.
Has anybody done a low-carb diet with and without glutamine supplementation? Did you notice a big difference in recovery, workout performance or general well-being?
Jstines - I did that session at 8am, on 5 hours of sleep. Brutal indeed :D.
Reubmar - what bloated feeling?
Chris - No idea, but you could at least try adding Leucine to spike insulin PWO, I suppose?
Thruxton45 - friend, I don’t think this programe is for you. CT does not recommend dieting for over 12 weeks, period. Just look at his Q&A thread and you’ll see people asking what you’ve just asked, and his replies.
[quote]G87 wrote:
Jstines - I did that session at 8am, on 5 hours of sleep. Brutal indeed :D.
Reubmar - what bloated feeling?
Chris - No idea, but you could at least try adding Leucine to spike insulin PWO, I suppose?
Thruxton45 - friend, I don’t think this programe is for you. CT does not recommend dieting for over 12 weeks, period. Just look at his Q&A thread and you’ll see people asking what you’ve just asked, and his replies.[/quote]
After drinking the PWO drink of 50g of glutamine I feel incredibly uncomfortable. I have read on Thib’s thread people mentioning bloating as a result of the glutamine but I have been unable to find it.
So, bit of a personal update. Finally hit 80kg, which at a starting weight of ~86-87kg (88kg, but the first kg was lost immediately through reduced food consumption) brings my total weight loss to around 15 lbs in 5 weeks. Waist is down by 2.5 inches. I’m probably as lean as I was when I started bulking, at 72kg… Makes me feel good, knowing I gained 8kg/17 lbs or so of muscle in 4 months :).
Getting used to the HRX, may kick it up a notch with another tab in the mornings next week. One thing I hate - it seems that I lose weight slowly around my gut and love handles. Probably, this is what people refer to when talking about a history of poor insulin sensitivity, and how it’s hardest to get ripped the first time. Started using DigestForce and ReceptorMax, hoping these will help.
Reubmar69 - wow, don’t know what to say regarding that, I only ever went as high as 30g of glutamine! Sorry I can’t be more helpful.
[quote]G87 wrote:
So, bit of a personal update. Finally hit 80kg, which at a starting weight of ~86-87kg (88kg, but the first kg was lost immediately through reduced food consumption) brings my total weight loss to around 15 lbs in 5 weeks. Waist is down by 2.5 inches. I’m probably as lean as I was when I started bulking, at 72kg… Makes me feel good, knowing I gained 8kg/17 lbs or so of muscle in 4 months :).
Getting used to the HRX, may kick it up a notch with another tab in the mornings next week. One thing I hate - it seems that I lose weight slowly around my gut and love handles. Probably, this is what people refer to when talking about a history of poor insulin sensitivity, and how it’s hardest to get ripped the first time. Started using DigestForce and ReceptorMax, hoping these will help.[/quote]
I’ve only dropped 9.5 lbs in the first 5 weeks, but I’m like you - very close to being at the same body fat level as prior to my gaining phase with a good amount of added muscle. At 182#, I’m right about where I was 10 months ago at 165#, so I would say about 15lb of muscle gain.
On the fat loss - I lose it in the lower abs, chest and love handles last also. I’m forgoing the ReceptorMax for now and going to see how things go as my wife might kill me if I buy any more supplements on this program …lol.
Today was day 1 for me!
Workout kicked my butt!
just out of curiosity… How are yal’s diet looking like? Like what are yal having for breakfast/lunch/dinner/snacks. I know its outlined as to how much portions and what your limited intake is, of protein/dairy/fat in the program. I just need to see a sample daily intake so i can get a feel for it, because i cant get creative with the foods (as far as cooking!) Thanks
- Alvin
Same here, started today…coming off of strength training I definitely noticed a lot of cardiovascular strain.
My diet is pretty simple. Lots of turkey. One meal I put a bit of tomato sauce on it, the other I do a turkey quesadilla with a low-carb tortilla. I count the cheese as fat, but I’m aware I’m not following guidelines there. Otherwise lots of eggs, steak once a day, possibly a tuna wrap instead of the quesadilla. I use a scoop of superfood as my veggies for two meals, and the others are either broccoli or mixed greens in a salad.
Unfortunately Thib’s on vacation so I can’t ask him…anyone know the reason for stutter reps with the RDL? I feel like it’s hitting my lower back in the beginning of the set, and by the end my upper back is trashed. I’m not really getting much glute or ham action.
link?
[quote]alvinmathew88 wrote:
Today was day 1 for me!
Workout kicked my butt!
just out of curiosity… How are yal’s diet looking like? Like what are yal having for breakfast/lunch/dinner/snacks. I know its outlined as to how much portions and what your limited intake is, of protein/dairy/fat in the program. I just need to see a sample daily intake so i can get a feel for it, because i cant get creative with the foods (as far as cooking!) Thanks
- Alvin[/quote]
I use a lot of extra-lean ground beef, eggs, chicken breast and lean ham. For the meals including dairy, I’ve whipped up something that’s 2 portions chicken, 1 portion ham and cheese as dairy. I melt 1/2 the cheese over the chicken, then top that with the ham and then the other half of the cheese and stick it in the toaster or broiler. It’s like a healthier chicken cordon blue.
For veggies, I’ve stuck mostly with cucumber and celery.
I season everything with spices and use soy sauce when appropriate - oh, and mustard is a savior if ytou’ve under-seasoned some meat.
I have seen Thib say he doesn’t advocate shakes for meals/snacks while dieting as they don’t provide the satiety of whole foods, but I have been using a shake and some veggies as a snack 3 or 4 times a week to get a meal in quickly. I also use a shake as my before bed feeding.
[quote]slimthugger wrote:
link?[/quote]
I’ve read the ebook, good stuff. Im going to dive into this program when I finish my current cut. As far as the shakes go, I only have time for 2 whole food meals a day, breakfast & dinner. I end up blending shakes every 2.5-3 hours, and add in a serving of superfood, ground flax meal (about 25grams or so), and chase it with fish oil pills. Shakes come out really thick, and hold me over pretty well.
[quote]aspengc8 wrote:
I’ve read the ebook, good stuff. Im going to dive into this program when I finish my current cut.[/quote]
You are going to start this cutting program after you finishing your current cutting program?
[quote]aspengc8 wrote:
I’ve read the ebook, good stuff. Im going to dive into this program when I finish my current cut. As far as the shakes go, I only have time for 2 whole food meals a day, breakfast & dinner. I end up blending shakes every 2.5-3 hours, and add in a serving of superfood, ground flax meal (about 25grams or so), and chase it with fish oil pills. Shakes come out really thick, and hold me over pretty well.[/quote]
8 posts above you, buddy… this program isn’t suitable for after a cut.
[quote]G87 wrote:
8 posts above you, buddy… this program isn’t suitable for after a cut.[/quote]
Why do you think that? My diet is similiar to what is outlined in the ebook, the only thing different is the workout plan.