They don’t have jobs and are basically unemployable.
How much of a credit are you going to give them? And when they don’t take care of their home, have their criminal family move in and drive down property values what happens? You’re back to square one. Housing credits, just like school vouchers, don’t benefit the poor but rather they benefit people who are working and need a little help. I really think some people need to go to the ghetto and actually see the people they are talking about. Of course there are good people there but there are a lot of people who make you wonder if their IQs are above 70.
Poverty by definition is absence of those things I mentioned.
If you are looking for some systemic reason that American Blacks and whites stay in poverty for multiple generations, while immigrants from Latin American, Southeast Asian, and Africa come over here and start improving their lives immediately and going forward - single mothers, refusal to utilize the free education system, and satisfaction with the barest minimum of living standard in the US. Even though that still includes not only necessities but cable, a/c, cell phones, and any number of extras not needed to live.
The violence in Portland, in conjunction with the support of the mayor and the governor attempting to cease and destroy Federal property is being likened to the shelling of Fort Sumter. By the actions of Oregonian leadership and the lawsuit filed by the ADA in Portland, Oregon can be considered in de facto secession.
They do not want to follow their own state’s constitutional duty to protect life and property and what the federal government to cede federal property to the state, they can be rightly called a state in rebellion.
It is analogous to the confederacy in that it was democrat politicians who became confederates and pushed the federal government out of the south, land illegally taken from the Union. I think we all know what happened next.
Are you really saying that the PDX mayor and PD not violently cracking down on protesters/rioters that number in the low hundreds (cumulatively) is analogous to a direct, large scale military action upon the united states of america?
If they can ever get one of these Federal officers separated out from his fellows, I am certain he’ll have to receive his award for his service posthumously. Look at that mob. I am convinced that it isn’t a matter of if, but simply that they haven’t had the opportunity. Yet. That man would be kicked, beaten with long-boards, and stomped dozen of times in a matter of seconds.
The problem is when they build massive housing projects, or multiple projects in one area.
Like where? A tent camp or homeless shelter? I’m not even joking, there are tent camps around Ottawa, and the shelters are overcrowded, rent is unaffordable if you make minimum wage.
Many don’t want to work at all either. You can make a lot more money selling crack or fentanyl than some low wage job.
haha, youre not wrong. We also should keep in mind the scope of this issue… folks are getting super worked up about riots with 100-150 people in PDX and (less so) Seattle that are happening in the same small part of the Cities. This behavior hasnt become widespread in those cities let alone in nearby communities or even other cities… its the same small extreme group of folks pulling the BS. Not excusing it at all, just saying lets not use hyperbole and equate this to the shelling of Fort Sumter.
This kinda ignores the last part of my post about housing credits. I am in favor of expanding the EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) as it incentivizes people to work, but helps get their wages to the point that they can afford housing and living expenses. IMO, we should increase EITC, and decrease other welfare programs.
I get what you’re saying but, assuming it is only a hundred or so people, it doesn’t make sense that a mayor would allow them the freedom to damage property and assault people without holding them accountable. This is what really bothers people; the fact that a small group of people are allowed to break the law for a cause that not even they can articulate. I saw a video where one guy (I think. It’s hard to tell with vegans sometimes) said they wanted communism, democracy and anarchy. Why is a group of people who count among their numbers the uneducated, the unemployed, meth addicts, the homeless, the mentally ill, the stupid, etc., allowed to damage property and hurt people as if they have that right? This does not promote intelligent discourse and debate and in fact, diverts from the real issues.
No, I agree. But, I can’t help but believe that if this things roots keep spreading…I suspect it isn’t a matter of not desiring as much, just that (for the time being) they don’t have that kind of power.
I never thought I’d live to see this day, as it is. I’m surprised by the rapidity of these developments.
Oh, and I get the same impression from currents on the right, too.
Things feel like they’re slipping away. Like the tension on the surface of drop of water at the edge of the spigot. It will eventually break, and we’ll all be dragged down with it.
And that would spell the end of Antifa. It would be officially labelled a terrorist group and those people they pull off the streets would have their lives turned upside down as their phones and computers would be checked to see if they have any links to Antifa and it’s off to Gitmo or something. You would see a lot of Twitter accounts get deleted.
I suppose something like that could work, but the problem we have here is a shortage of rental housing. Yeah there are luxury apartments that are vacant and that kind of thing, but if you put a bunch of people on welfare in a place like that it’s going to cause more problems.
It’s going to vary from place to place, but the issue here is that a lot of people were moving into certain cities (either immigrants or from smaller towns) which drove up the price of rent. Ottawa isn’t even that bad, Toronto and Vancouver are totally unaffordable for regular people. Maybe some part of the US are a different story.
I have never even heard of this, I don’t believe there is such a thing here. Waiting lists for public housing are somewhere around 10 years though.
The irony is that all those things contradict each other. A totalitarian one party system is not democratic, and has nothing to do with anarchy.
These people are not smart. The best way to describe them, and sorry it’s not PC, is that they are losers. They want whatever system they think won’t demand they get a job. Seriously, who has the time to “protest” every night for months? They really have nothing better to do.
There are allegations that people like George Soros are paying some of these protestors/rioters, that could be part of it too. They need to eat sometime, and a lot of them are from out of town.
EITC has pretty widespread support. I am not saying get rid of all other programs, just reduce them.
EITC isn’t perfect, but it does a pretty good job of eliminating a major problem with other welfare programs (it doesn’t remove the incentive to work, and actually encourages work).
People eventually get sick of protesting. Some might be upset for a bit, but eventually, they will apply for work, when they don’t get nearly as much for doing nothing.
Im not surprised because i dont really see the rapidity. The same small group of violent antifa have been fighting with proudboyz and cops for years now in PDX. Less so in seattle. Its just they have found a “legitimate” cause to fight for now every night instead of once every couple of months on special occasions. But if things were growing, the size of the antifa rioters would be growing as well, or at least the riots would be popping up in new areas… but as it is, its the same old crew throwing (like girls) rocks/batteries/fireworks at the same concrete building night after night.
I think that a violent crackdown, however, WOULD mobilize the folks sitting on the sidelines and that would make the “movement” grow in size and spread.
When I was young, Washington and Jefferson were heroes. Now they tear them down. Marching with the hammer and sickle would have ended just about any sympathy for your cause. Now I can’t help but feel like the actions of these terrorists are only passingly, guickly, mentioned in rather subdued tones. We paint the name of a Marxist far-left organization on city streets to spite a sitting and legitimately elected President of the US of A. He’s a turd, but he is our turd. And those are our streets. Our monuments. Our history. Now we shout down people who desire that others stand for the flag instead of reviling the guy wearing Che t-shirts, pigs as cops socks, and kneels instead of standing with the rest of us. No, he gets multi-million dollar contracts from Nike (exploiting oversees labor) and Disney because at some point he could throw a pig-skin in a child’s game still being played by adults. Can’t stand with me, but I must stand with you?
I see people kneeling and pleading with others for some sort of hereditary collective sin. But this secular religion has no concept of mercy and forgiveness.