George Floyd Riots

I agree with you, @Californiagrown…and why I think that whatever this “movement” is will most likely fizzle out.

Yes…there will be some reforms in policing (which most likely needed to be done)…and more Confederate symbols removed (Mississippi seems to be one of the last holdouts…a State which ironically has the highest percentage of African Americans in the Union…I didn’t know that…)…but as people struggle with COVID and their own Lives…they are showing less and less tolerance for looters, thugs, vandals or people who seem to not know one damn thing about American history.

H, Bezmenov is the key. Yes he did die in the 90’s. No he was not the one building all the Lenin statues. I have no idea about his erections.

He exposes the playbook, of how western nations have become weakened the way they have due to subversion. This is a real life conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory. You will hear familiar tactics like calling people Nazi’s or fascists to dismiss their arguments. Promoting homosexuality, and feminism to weaken the male population. Getting into the education system and indoctrinating children against their own culture.
More importantly he explains how to reverse it. I can’t do it justice, you need to hear it from the horse’s mouth.

Maybe you should be interested in it. Take the red pill or stay deluded in the matrix, just get ready to literally start kissing the boots of BLM or whoever else makes you. And yes that stuff is actually going on now, in the US.

Pretty sure he’s white, so he should do that anyway. It’s only fair.

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Maybe some of them, but it also has an appeal to those looking at this a revolution of some sort.

Depends how public opinion sways, the media and left wing politicians don’t seem to be opposed. If the Democrats win the next election then anything is possible. Not that I like Trump, but the alternative isn’t better.

Hyperbole is fun. If we’re fucked because of those things you’re fucked as well. Same sex marriage is legal says google and you were the second place in the world to give women the right to vote. Holy shit you did that in 1893. How the fuck do you exist?! Quick reverse that shit and save your homeland. Stop spending all your time focusing on the US and put those fires out in Australia.

Edit: Reply wasn’t intended for you. Forum is becoming a mess to deal with.

I’d have to agree with you, Australia is in the same boat as every other western country. We culturally seem to follow trends in the USA .The Commies have been at work over here too. We literally put the (bush)fires out over here months ago, though I know you are speaking metaphorically.

Gay marriage in Australia was a mix of apathy, and a swindle. The amount of people who didn’t vote, then complained about the result was huge when they realised the LGBT lobby still weren’t satisfied despite getting what they wanted. The vote was supposed to be a referendum, where everyone had to vote and the result needed to be a 2/3 majority for change of policy. Instead a voluntary, non binding plebiscite was decided method chosen by the govt. All the pro gay people voted in favour, the average person was apathetic, and didn’t vote, the result was just over 50% in favour of gay marriage. The govt who was pro gay marriage, decided that they should make it legal, so they did. If it was a referendum, it would not have passed, and they would not have been able to change it. Funny how the gays got it through the back door.

The answer to the problems are the same regardless of the country, see Bezemov.

I hear chapstick is getting hard to buy in the States. Do you want me to post you some?

How does homosexuality weaken the male population?

Additionally, I am unsure that promoting homosexuality does anything to increase the number of homosexuals. Maybe the amount that are out of the closet increase.

This type of logic confuses me. I am sure that a couple of people have chosen to be gay, but IMO it is such a small amount that we shouldn’t even consider it.

If you believe it is a choice to be gay, then isn’t it a choice to be straight? I guess I am of the opinion that if you wake up everyday and are choosing to be straight, then you are probably actually gay.

Gays, minorities, women be bad. I’m sure a YouTube video can be shared that features someone explaining why. Just know that the end of society is happening and these are the reason why.

Wait I’m sure Jews are also to blame because of course they are.

Looking at places like ancient Greece where it was normal, it does give the impression that normalizing homosexuality would result in more people engaging in it.

People have urges to do all kinds of things, but the difference is whether you act upon it or not. If you feel the urge to steal something but don’t do it does that make a you a thief? If you have to restrain your attraction to other men then you have issues, but if you don’t actually do it then you can’t really say that person is gay.

More effeminate men

Interesting. I agree that it is far more acceptable to be effeminate as a male in the gay community, and consequently more acceptable to be physically weaker. Though, on the flip side, id argue that sexuality and physical attractiveness in the gay community is much more open and emphasized and so you have a larger percentage of males that take good care of their bodies than you do in the hetero population.

At the same time, thats pretty a damn stupid thing to single out when you look at all the trappings of modern society which have a FAAAAAR greater impact on weakening the male population (computers, desk jobs, smart phones, cars, shitty diets, etc, etc).

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You asked a question, I gave a response. Sure there are other things that will also make men weak, but that wasn’t the question.

I always thought of gay as an attraction from someone to their same sex, not if someone performs action of gay sex.

I get where you are going here, and the comparisons. Just don’t think it applies here.

Perhaps. I can’t really see myself getting into it, even if a majority was doing it. I don’t think there is anything wrong with it, but I am not interested, and find it off putting. As an example, I absolutely hate onions. I think they taste awful. They seem pretty popular, but I am not convinced to eat them based off of that. I also don’t think others are wrong for liking them. Just not my thing.

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Are you speaking from experience? I don’t feel any differently than I did before gay marriage. Maybe I’m one of the lucky ones and once it became legalized all these straight males suddenly had a desire to be with dudes?

Some of the baddest people I know are queer as fuck. I can think of three openly gay people I’ve trained with who could easily show a typical powerlifter his own butthole.

I think it has less to do with how you get your rocks off than it does the social and cultural erosion of masculine values. i.e. the myth of “Toxic Masculinity” that’s steered countless men away from healthy male pursuits like martial arts and physical training.

These pressures away from masculinity were even present back in the '90’s, just with different words. It was cool to be a slacker. “Jocks suck” was a common slogan.

Okay in an ironic twist, I googled “jocks suck”, expecting to see an urban dictionary entry pop up or something explaining the 90’s slacker roots of the phrase. Nope. It must have been a regional phrase where I lived, because googling it just gave me nothing but gay porn results.

Maybe that gay agenda is real, after all…

I LOLed at this.

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I did too. This might be the first time I truly felt like an old and out-of-touch person being surprised by how technology works. My innuendo radar of all kinds is usually tuned in quite well, but I still thought “jocks suck” was a relatively innocent phrase from my adolescence. I think it stemmed from Beavis and Butthead somehow. I had no idea just how wrong I was until I clicked “search”…

Sometimes a page full of hardcore gay porn search results are what’s needed to make you realize there’s more than one meaning to a phrase.

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Yeah but were they always gay or did they magically change when we stopped treating gay people horribly? I bet they were straight as an arrow and then some pride parade they didn’t attend on the west coast turned them that way.

The famous Roman poet Ovid was ridiculed for his effeminacy by his contemporaries, due to him having sex exclusively with women.

Maybe stopped taking AAS cold turkey?

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I think there’s probably a mix to be honest, but other than having gay friends and training partners I don’t have the best insight into the gay mind. I had a gay roommate I didn’t know was gay until the first time my girlfriend came over. Somehow she picked up on it in seconds while I was oblivious for weeks.

I do think some people adopt a gay identity for social reasons rather than sexual impulses. I can think of a few people I know who I suspect fit this bill. One’s a gal who is married to a man and has not, to my knowledge, ever dated a female but she makes a HUGE DEAL out of being “pansexual”, which means whatever she says it does. It ties in with all of her other victim-status posting, imploring everyone to be considerate in very specific ways of people with her entire spectrum of things she wants you to be considerate of.

I have a friend, who was a jock-of-jock type and still kind of is, who came out as both gay and trans in a span of a few months. Most of us were perfectly tolerant of it, even if it was a really big surprise. Okay, same person we always trained with, but in a spaghetti-strap top and painted nails. A little odd, but that’s fine. Let’s train.

Back to the topic of this thread (sort-of), what I found curious is the celebrity treatment he got after coming out. Being trans wasn’t just something that should be tolerated, but celebrated. Feted, even. Not unlike BLM. Not unlike BLM at all. In fact, even criticizing something as radical as Canada’s bill C-16 makes you a transphobe. Trans, like black people, are immune to criticism.

It is the same kind of social-media and real-life high-fiving I see that I believe drives a lot of the behavior on the left today, which I’d go ahead and lump in being “fake gay” with. More importantly, it is the fear of consequences that prevents people from being openly critical of otherwise nonsense policies that produce tragic outcomes. Being “fake gay” isn’t one of those, in my opinion, but the thought process seems to fit in with other behavior I see, specifically the celebration of victim status.

It is this phenomenon that I believe prevents otherwise rational people from un-tangling their feelings of empathy and good-will towards others with the actual outcomes of the policies they end up supporting. This is why upper-middle class white liberals are so eager to self-flagellate and signal their celebration of the cause, be it gay, trans, black, or whatever other intersectional characteristic they’re honing in on. They can do this, call themselves “allies”, get a lot of high fives and risk absolutely nothing. It’s not my sister-in-law’s house that will be looted and set ablaze, after all. It is not her children that will have to go to the schools that haven’t had a conservative on the board for generations.

You will be met with nothing but acclaim and support for signalling that you have the correct position. If you disagree, however, it is no longer a policy difference. It is time for character judgement, and that’s where we’re at today. This is a major problem, and why I’ve written about the assumption of good faith and it’s importance.

Back to the gays, real or fake? question, I think most are real, but a small percentage are doing it because of the social benefit in their social circles. The social benefits exist because of the celebration of victimhood that is part of our culture now.