I am not convinced that this is the sentiment that most of these protestors carry. I do think some of them do, but are a minority.
I do think it is possible that the minority of protestors holding anti-white prejudice are leading the majority who do not hold those views.
Yet, they want to destroy every statue of a white man.
Perhaps the people destroying the statues hold that sentiment, or are misled by a minority. I guess I donāt think that a majority of the protestors in general think that all white men are bad. Need to distinguish between the general protestors and the ones tearing down statues.
Very likely iāve missed it, but is there widespread support for tearing down statues of folks not directly associated with the confederacy or slavery? Or are the folks doing this just the same samll number of folks that were causing the rioting and looting problems during the widespread protests of the past few weeks?
Possibly so. But on the other hand, if they get followers it gives them power and thus creates a ripple effect regardless of whether the majority do or donāt hold those views.
Itās very common in this forum to label conservatives as fakes due to Donald Trumpāeven though he surely does NOT represent the majority of conservatives. However he does the same thing these minority protesters are doing on the other side of the aisle (leading some conservatives whether by bullying or trickery, or ignorance, to parrot many of his views) and the result is the same. He has damaged the party, and actual conservative values by association, extensively through his behavior.
The exact same process is at play here, so whether or not the majority hold those same views they are counted among the number, right or wrong.
There are just a lot of idiots attacking any statue they can find. There was a post way back in this thread about the vandalism of a monument for an all-black regiment that fought against the confederate army in the civil war. Most of these people donāt know what they are doing, itās a mob mentality type of thing.
I agree here. I think it is just moronic behavior overall. I donāt think average people do a whole lot of critical thinking.
I understand that its just a few dozen folks (at most) actually physically pulling statues down and defacing installations. Iām just curious if there has been widespread support for these extrajudicial acts. Any name-brand folks calling for or supporting removal/defacing outside of proper legal channels?
IMO there is a wide difference between wanting to go through the process of legally removing possibly offensive statues and installations, vs. advocating for their extrajudicial removal.
Youād think that shooing a dozen people away from public property would be well within the capabilities of the Mayberry PD, let alone any major metro area in the modern USA.
If refusing to arrest, detain or prosecute anyone involved with public vandalism isnāt support, what is?
Not that Iām aware of, but itās like when people were hoarding toilet paper. The news kept reporting on it and more people started doing it. But then you have these BLM supporters saying āsilence is complicityā, so by their logic you could blame the left wing media and politicians who donāt condemn it.
Absolutely. Doing it legally might not be popular among certain groups, but otherwise itās nothing more than an act of vandalism. But either way, some of this stuff is ridiculous, now BLM is defending Satan:
Iād call that indifference, looking the other way, making a ābusiness decisionā, etc.
But, it sounds like you and I have different definitions of āwidespread supportā.
Indifferenceā¦ rightā¦
There used to be a time when it would be inconceivable that a mayor of a major US metro area would stand down and allow parts to be over-run, burned to the ground and looted with impunity.
Of course, it used to be inconceivable that medieval diseases, easily managed by basic urban sanitation practices known for millennia, are making a comeback in these same cities.
Somehow, someway, our public policy priorities have shifted from the most basic expectations of government. Providing security, safety and public sanitation are somehow beyond reach in 2020.
Maybe youāre right. Indifference explains a lot. You donāt need widespread support for your shitty and destructive ideas to be put into policy. You just need people to not care or even pay attention, but still vote for you.
The movie Glory was about that regiment.
Joe Biden disagrees
To me, it seems like the same demographic that looted and rioted, has now switched gears towards vandalizing statues. It has a very TP-the-highschool vibe to it, just a little darker and dangerous because the perpetrators are a little older.
Statues and monuments symbolizing āthe manā seem like easy things for an angsty mob to vandalize and destroy. But once that has been done, what is their next step? IDK if there is one? All other ānext stepsā i can think of would have to be done through legal/formalized processes or done in large numbers, and without widespread support (which seems to be lacking) i dont really see it going any further. What do you think?
I wish they would either stop entirely or the military would step in and just open fire widespread. Iām sick of all this bullshit on top of what we already have going.
Do you think it should be a statue of him holding a gun to a pregnant womanās stomach, or should it be of him turning his back to and appearing to ignore a group of children that resemble him?
Guess which ones just took over the narrative.
It is more than that unless that dozen is able to move around the country at the speed of light.
Not really. The looters were criminals taking advantage of the situation. The rioters, like the noodle armed Antifa white kids, have an agenda. Some dude who wants a new pair of sneakers is not going to know what kill all colonizers means.
Text books.
The fact that pundits and politicians are openly talking about removing monuments shows that they have validated and legitimized the people who want it done, in spite of their supposed low numbers. And BLM does indeed support the removal of these monuments. This makes perfect sense since BLM is less about police brutality and more about its Marxist agenda.
Of course not. He was a good man. Just like Rayshard Brooks. And Jefferson, Washington, Roosevelt, Columbus, white Jesusā¦