No one knows what this will all look like. Even the city council.
It could come in the form of county sheriff filling the void, or an elected constable model, or it could be a vigilante free-for-all. The one thing i KNOW is that it will take a long time to hammer out details and implement.
I hope that the police union doesnt strike in the next month or so, allow the city of fall to pieces b/c no plan is in place, and then use that as justification to scrap the whole plan.
I think people are forgetting that the private prison industry has to be dismantled before anything else. Thereās a literal demand for people to be in prisons, and itās easier for them to be in prisonās than in rehab or a mental health facility.
What do you want them to do? Honestly, regardless of what you think of this idea, what union wouldnāt strike?
The smart (but heartless and unethical) move would be strike and let the city implode to show that LEOs are needed. What i would like them to do is meet with civic leaders and local political leaders to figure out what changes need to be made and to begin implementing those changes. From what i understand, police unions are a big reason for the apparent lack of accountability and issues within many police departments, so maybe it is as simple as disbanding police unions as unrealistic as that may be (but hey we are taking about wants and wishes here).
Besides businesses, the tax base of the city, telling the city no, it might not even be legal as the state will have to step in and provide law enforcement. The council knows it wonāt happen but is pandering and itās get out of jail free card will be to blame whoever tells them they canāt disband the police department.
What community leaders, specifically, are willing to have an open discussion with the police? Iām not asking this rhetorically, or being a dick and trying to ask something that you donāt have the time to research, Iām genuinely wondering, because thatās a valid idea - tell the politicians to butt out, have the police directly communicate with the people.
Either that or just delusional.
And if there were no cops then what? He can walk free and kill more people? Would they bring back lynching instead?
It sounds nice, but itās not about to happen like that. Why not abolish gangs, drug cartels, and organized crime?
Thatās what I was saying. Not only are they not immune to corruption and racism, but they might not be able to stand up to some criminal groups.
For their sake I hope not, but itās not only one guy. One guy on the council posted that on twitter, but what are the others who voted to shut down the Minneapolis PD saying?
Making a name as a fanatical leftist loonie. He said he supports antifa. No police, but welcome people rioting and destroying the city? I donāt understand how anyone with half a brain can support this.
One guy in Minneapolis was unjustifiably killed by police so far this year, but how many will die at the hands of criminals? The cure is worse than disease by far.
Community leaders and the positions they hold obviously vary from neighborhood to neighborhood and city to city.
Possibly holding townhall type meetings, and the politicians can absolutely be involved and be leaders, they just wouldnt automatically be so because of their political office. Hold a town hall in the biggest church in each neighborhood every week for a month to help distill each neighborhoods main goals and ideas. Then present those goals and ideas along with ways to implement them at a monthly meeting at a larger venue. Bring the list of ideas to the police along with a select group of folks who have been leaders for their neighborhoods and put the negotiations on CCTV for all to view and record.
IDK, off the top of my head, something along those lines. Plenty of kinks to be worked out in the process, no doubt.
Impossible right now, unfortunately. The mayor, who has been as attentive and involved as you could ask, was nearly stoned to death for saying he didnāt support the dissolution of police, even as he came to a protest.
Iād record a transcript. Them being on TV will lead to neither side wanting to back down, and will make it more of a shitshow than it would already be.
So, put Police in a situation in which they not only have to worry about themselves but also the unarmed woman making contact with the knife wielder?
He fired the cops involved immediately. He is probably very liberal. But you can never be woke enough for the woke posse.
This all assumes that these social workers would even want to be put in those situations.
Trueā¦but I would not be moving to Minneapolis anytime soon.
What I will concede it that it could be that the model of Policing that has existed for years may not be ātheā best model to follow.
Weāll see how it goesā¦and so will the criminals and thugs.
The whole thing is a cacophonic finish of the sonata that was the western society.
A career criminal was arguably (he had many times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his blood along with meth) killed. Tragic, maybe.
An excuse to loot and rape and kill and burn? I donāt think so.
No leaderhip whatsoever. Orchestrated anti White resentment at its peak. The many greedy hands of the whole rotten system try to pilfer whatās left of political and real capital faster and faster while we are still doing the corona thing, for a lack of a better word.
The next generation will not forget what democracy has done to their heritage once nothing is left to loot. It will probably get very nasty.
Oh I wasnāt joking. Iād be all in on cutting the number of police in half nationwide assuming the budget shrank by half as well. Dont get rid if cops and keep taking the money you paid them.
Nationwide constitutional carry. Bounty hunting will be lucrative again. Iām envisioning a cross between Django Unchained and True Grit, which im totally fine with. Iām assuming a lot of people arenāt however nd want to keep their local police.
Ya know whose moving to Minneapolis and is used to no police? Somali migrants.
A comprehensive examination sounds like a really good idea.
So does getting rid of laws that make no sense, and providing support.
They got rid of a lot of mental institutions in the 1970ās and 80"s, with the idea of letting the patients back into the community, and hoped that it would magically treat acutely suffering people. That one didnāt work too well. The French, communist, deconstructionist intellectuals like Foucault championed that theory. Happened pretty much all over the western world.
The centre, and right politicians liked the theory too, because it meant that they could close down a lot of the state institutions, and make the budget look better.
What do you think about the decriminalisation of all drugs for adults?
I hear Portugal has done this, and so far it seems to be showing positive results.
A hell of a lot of people are in prison for drug related crimes.
You would really need to think that one through, very thoroughly. The road to hell, paved with good intentions, and all that.
This is going well so far.
I have a feeling theyāll keep the peace fairly well.
Forget an apology, I want Cressida Dick ran out of town on a rail.
All cops shoot unarmed people just like all social workers have to be women, and all police calls are for knife wielding psychopaths.