What the hell are you going on about?
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I donât think itâs likely either. I was missing from a âfox the problemâ standpoint rather than the likelihood of happening.
Absolutely. I think in situations like this the damage one can do to oneself through guilt can outweigh the potential consequences. Not to make light of prison sentences, just in psychological terms. Adding public humiliation on top is just a heavy load.
I wouldnât bet on that.
Having been investigated three times for officer involved shootings, I find this report to be highly unusual. I smell politics, like how can you prosecute anyone defending our esteemed politicians? Doesnât past the smell test, especially how quick there were to arrest and charge Potter.
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When a black man is shot by police, he is portrayed as a saint by his family and the media pushes that narrative. They wonât bring up his criminal past or the fact he has no job, but use descriptions such as father or gentle giant. They will delve into the copâs professional and personal life. They will show his mugshot, if he was arrested, but the picture of the victim will be from high school.
Meanwhile, the media did everything it could to make Ashli look like a lunatic. They mentioned her personal life and her business. Iâm not saying she didnât have issues, she clearly did, but as the victim of a police shooting she was treated as the bad guy who deserved it. Where was the push to name the cop?
With the media, and the liberal woke crowd, itâs clearly a case of not wanting to humanize someone labelled as a Qanon dope and anti democracy right wing terrorist. God forbid we have any empathy for her.
Iâm not saying it was a bad shooting but the idea that we base whatâs right or wrong on how we perceive the victim from a political perspective is not only sad, but dangerous.
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Thatâs because the guy was turning his life around.
Where I live, the police are no angels. Just the usual, some good, some bad, most just doing their best. But itâs what I call a low pressure society, even with some fairly heavy organised crime gangs and then all the usual drink and drug fueled dumbness. But, generally, our cops are not scared of us and we are not scared of our cops. Even when you stray into a heavily policed area and the stop involves an armed cop standing by in the sidelines, the cop who actually comes up to your window acts like heâs just delivering the post. He knows his chances of getting shot or stabbed are statistically very low.
And so heâs chilled, even if heâs a bit pissed he just caught you doing burnouts in the carpark or whatever. And because you know heâs chilled, youâre chilled, and you just get ready to give him your best âyes officer, sorry 'bout that, Iâll just head off home now, etcâŠâ Even in other countries in Europe where the police are all armed and not known for their politeness or good behavior, you generally donât find the population is scared of them.
But once it becomes âthem against usâ, bad things will happen.
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She deserved to die. Attempt to violently storm the capital and take the 2nd and 3rd in line for POTUS hostage in an attempt to overthrow a free and fair election should get you shot. Every damn time. Fuck her.
You donât think a trial by her peers would be better?
Deserved?
Really? I would think that lethal force should be used when itâs an appropriate self-defense response. You know, the same standards police are to follow when they shoot an unarmed black man who is breaking the law.
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Or some empathy and mental health care? I mean, maybe it was a proper use of lethal force but to say she deserved it is rather cruel.
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Nope. And that wasnât possible in that situation without unnecessarily putting pence and pelosi in further danger.
I donât buy that this woman was a serious risk to Pence and Pelosi.
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Then you are either ignorant of the events, forgot what happened, or have been spun around by fox news three ways from Sunday.
Serious risk doesnât justify lethal force anyway.
What risk did an unarmed woman pose? If I were confronted by her, I wouldnât even consider using a weapon of any sort other than my bare hands. When a knife wielding person of color is shot, you hear, âwhy didnât they shoot him in he leg?â âWhy didnât they Taze him?â âWhy didnât they just tackle him?â
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Lol, I am fairly liberal. I just am trying to be consistent.
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Incredibly, incredibly dangerous. Scary.
This is why itâs so important to do everything we can to avoid that happening even when itâs hard. It also, unfortunately, is an innate part of human nature to try to turn everything into them v us 
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I dunno. I get where Cali is coming from here. Anyone who wants to do what the mob on the capitol wanted can get proper fucked and no remorse from me. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
But suffering consequences of actions is different from dehumanizing someone, so yes it is important to acknowledge and empathize with the delusions people in the crowd are suffering.
In addition, your point about the different âopticalâ standards in action between the Capitol and many regular âstops one badâ is very important. I agree with that. The things you hear in many cases about âshooting in the legâ or some other crap are just absurd.
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Some lives are worth more than others. This ainât tee-ball. Not everyone on the team gets treated the same, nor should they. Take no chances protecting the #2 and #3. They escaped the chamber seconds before that traitor was shot. Good on that guard.
Should cops take no chances in regards to their own lives (which to them should be more important than even POTUSâ life)?
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Their lives are not nearly as important as the POTUS. not nearly.
I value my life far above the life of a POTUS.
It seems important is subjective.
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