I don’t. And neither would damn near everyone else who doesn’t know you (and many that do).
The consensus would be, who the fuck is mnben87, and it is an international travesty and destabilizing worldwide event if POTUS were to be killed.
Oh, I would bet right now, that roughly 40% of the country would keep me alive over the current POTUS, and last year, roughly 50% would have kept me over the POTUS at the time.
Most people probably value their own life more than that of the current POTUS. So why is it okay to take “no chances” in regards to politicians, but an officer should take chances with likely the most important person to him/her?
Because objectively the murder of a cop or civilian means FAR less than the murder of POTUS, or the VP, or the SOTH.
And it’s not about politicians. It’s about the top government officials who represent and run the country. A junior rep from Delaware… Who cares. A member of SCOTUS… Big fucking deal.
According to the law?
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When an unarmed black man is shot, like Jacob Blake (he did have a knife, but cops have guns), the media and woke crowd don’t acknowledge the totality of the circumstances: he was a violent criminal violating a court order, resisted arrest, was shot with a tazer, attempted to enter a vehicle with children in it while armed… And people riot.
An unarmed white woman is shot and there is no media uproar or cries for abolishing the police. Why? Because she was white? Because she was a Trump supporter?
Jacob Blake was a violent criminal but he’s a saint who Kamala visited. The VP paid her respects to a criminal who was accused of sexual assault and whose father posted antisemitic comments online. Ashli Babbit gets no such consideration. She deserved what she got.
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So would you advocate for different standards for justification of self defense based on the importance of the person? I think that would be consistent.
A SCOTUS can blast a suspicious looking fellow because we can’t take any chances with the members of SCOTUS, but us regular fellows have to have good evidence that we were in serious danger.
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Pelosi can shoot anyone wearing a MAGA hat I suppose.
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Damn. How about the folks trying to set federal buildings on fire (with people inside). Or, more similar…How about the unarmed people simply following closely those armed with incendiaries? Those mostly peaceful protests have battered and murdered.
Nah. Just a bad day, right? We all get grouchy, yeah? This ain’t you man!
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Yes. And, yes. I’m no Trumpkin, but some of the opposition takes it way too far.
You do get this on both sides. The right will say the these guys are thugs, were resisting arrest or what not (usually true). The left will say that these people shot on the capital were traitors or what not.
IMO, with both this case and the one in Brooklyn Center, MN, neither should have been shot. I don’t think it was called for in either case. I also don’t think either officer will face prison time (and I think that is probably correct).
First 7 in the line of succession, plus SCOTUS. Thats a good place to draw the line IMO (and I’m open to making that list a little smaller). They get protection above and beyond normal citizens due to their importance to our country and/or world.
A cop in PDX is comparatively meaningless. Same with myself. Same with you. Barely a ripple caused by our murder or kidnapping. “Normal” laws seem appropriate for us.
Its not a left or right issue. One-half of the people I’m saying are special here was trump’s right-hand man. That’s a bullshit partisan blame game maneuver.
Or do they get protection because they are at more of a risk of being killed than the average person due to their jobs?
And getting more protection is not the same as their lives being more valuable, at least from a legal viewpoint.
Secret service can’t just shoot someone because they got a bad vibe from him. Find me the law that says lethal force standards vary based on a person’s “value.”
Life would go on if a politician or judge were killed.
“Important” doesn’t equal valuable. Many important people do a ton of harm. I would rather they die than someone only making a ripple.
Think of how great it would have been if Hitler had been killed off. Maybe the protection these people get allows them to be more comfortable making untenable decisions.
Yeah, I mean we are all still here even though franz ferdinand was killed. I guess there was a slightly bigger ripple because of that than when a kid at my high school was killed for his drug stash though. But hey, life goes on. For some.
You’re comparing a political assassination by a foreigner to an American citizen killing a politician.
Then how much less are the lives of junkies, repeat offenders, and folks who don’t listen to law enforcement instruction?
The lives of PDX, Marshals, and ICE are comparatively far more valuable than than rioters.
FIFY.
Same as the rest of us plebs. Or, at least in the same universe.
And that would trigger WW3.
Like… George Floyd?
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