Geezer Runs His First Cycle

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[quote]SonoraStorm wrote:
Thanks Massive Guns. I use FitBit’s web-app to track my food, so I am pretty sure I’m at least 95% accurate (since almost none of my food comes out of a box, portion sizes can vary a little bit here and there). I aim for 250 - 300 grams of protein a day, and less than 25g carbs. Regarding upping my carbs, my theory - and I could be completely wrong - is that since the DBol increases glycogen storage, a carb deficit prevents storing that cheap energy in the muscle, my body will instead turn to fat stores and create glycogen indirectly ythrough Gluconeogenesis. My theory’s based on research done at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

We’ll see…[/quote]

If you eat that few carbs, you lose protein since a portion of it turns to carbs. Therefore, if you are using steroids, you either need to eat even more protein, or add some carbs. I’m familiar with the anabolic diet. Most people using gear do better with a higher carb intake.

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[quote]SonoraStorm wrote:
What a day.

Shoulder/Tri Day:

Shoulder Press, barbell: 2 warm-up sets, 4 working sets, 7 reps each.
Arnold Press: 4 sets, 7 reps. Muscle failure on set 4 rep 7
Cable Face Pulls: 4 sets, 7 reps.
Close Grip Bench press: 2 warm up sets, 4 working sets, 7 reps each
Weighted Dips, 4 reps, 7 sets each
Hanging Leg Raises. Fuck these things. 4 sets, trying to get 20 reps each. Actually went 20, 20, 12, 10.
Weighted Incline Sit-ups. Trying to get 4 sets, 20 reps. Actuals: 10, 13, 15, 10. My abs were smoked. Adding the chain to the leg raises was a bad idea.
Finished with a 10 minute sprint on the treadmill.

Also…wife found my gear today. She was cleaning, asked me what it was. I’m a terrible liar, so I didn’t even try. 30 minutes of unhappy wife, but that’s settled, and at least the monkey of hiding it is off my back.

Still…it’ll end up costing me. I imagine she’ll go on a shoe shopping spree or something soon and use a line like “you spend money to look good, I spend money to look good.”

What’s a man to do?[/quote]

This a cool log for me, i plan on running almost the exact same cycle in january . Also any weight changes yet?

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[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

If you eat that few carbs, you lose protein since a portion of it turns to carbs. Therefore, if you are using steroids, you either need to eat even more protein, or add some carbs. I’m familiar with the anabolic diet. Most people using gear do better with a higher carb intake.[/quote]

Thanks for the feedback. I’ve been on the AD so long, it’s the diet I’m familiar with. When I carb up on weekends, I feel sluggish and un-energetic. We’ll see how it goes; if I don’t notice the improvements I’m looking for after week 4, I’ll up the carbs.

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:
This a cool log for me, i plan on running almost the exact same cycle in january . Also any weight changes yet?[/quote]

I only weigh myself once a week so daily fluctuations don’t drive me crazy. Tomorrow morning is “weigh day”, so I’ll have updated weight/bf% stats then.

Breakfast today: 4 egg omelette with mushrooms, scallions, tomatos and onions.

Dinner last night was three bratwursts with grilled onions and peppers.

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Mid-morning snack: two pieces summer sausage, IsoPure drink.
Lunch: Spinach salad w/ grape tomatos, cucumbers, parmesan cheese, and grilled chicken. Olive oil with diced garlic for the dressing. Delicious.
Afternoon snack some pepperoni rolled in sharp cheddar cheese.

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[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

[quote]SonoraStorm wrote:
Thanks Massive Guns. I use FitBit’s web-app to track my food, so I am pretty sure I’m at least 95% accurate (since almost none of my food comes out of a box, portion sizes can vary a little bit here and there). I aim for 250 - 300 grams of protein a day, and less than 25g carbs. Regarding upping my carbs, my theory - and I could be completely wrong - is that since the DBol increases glycogen storage, a carb deficit prevents storing that cheap energy in the muscle, my body will instead turn to fat stores and create glycogen indirectly ythrough Gluconeogenesis. My theory’s based on research done at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

We’ll see…[/quote]

If you eat that few carbs, you lose protein since a portion of it turns to carbs. Therefore, if you are using steroids, you either need to eat even more protein, or add some carbs. I’m familiar with the anabolic diet. Most people using gear do better with a higher carb intake.[/quote]

You are NOT familiar with the AD based on your quote. Thow whole purpose of the AD is to use fat as fuel, since it has a metabolic pathway to convert to blood sugar. If he is eating enough fat, protein is spared.

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Wow! What a workout!

Deadlift: 2 warm-up sets, 4 working sets, 7 reps each. I normally struggle with a deadlift of 365. It’s not my 1RM by any means, but I usually can’t do 7 reps. It’s just not a movement I’m very good at. I warm-up by increasing the stack 1 45 lb plate at a time. So first warm up set is 135 lbs, next set is 225 lbs, my first working set is 315, then I add the 25s to finish at 365 and I do 5 or 6 before my form breaks down. Today my warm-ups seemed inconsequential, and my first working set of 315 I was throwing the weight up like it was paper. My 2nd set I put the 25s on there, thinking “Maybe I’ll get all 7 reps”. Not only did I get all 7, I got all 7 EASY. So I thought to my self “Self - you own this shit. Fuck these weights in their face.” And I replaced the 25s with another 45 stack, for a total of 415 lbs. I got all 7 reps of my 3rd set at 415!! This is probably not an impressive accomplishment to you hard core lifters, but this was awesome to me. My 4th set was again with 415, and I got 5 out of 7 before my form broke down. Thats a PR for me, and a big one.

Needless to say, I was stoked the rest of the workout:

Pull-ups, 4 sets, 7 reps each, with 50 lb chain. I blew through these. On my last set I replaced the 50 lb with a 75 lb chain, and got all 7, although I was throwing my legs on the final few reps.

Bent-over row w/ barbell, 4 sets, 7 reps. At this point my back was pretty smoked, so no records here, but still got a great pump.

Barbell shrug, 4 sets, 7 reps. At this point of my workout I was cruising. 135 lbs, again nothing you monsters will be impressed with, but my form was PERFECT, gave a great squeeze at the top…I wanted to bellow with triumph after the last set.

Dumbell shrug, 70 lb dbs, 4 sets, 7 reps. I normally do shrugs with 60 lb dumbbells, but I was on fire. Again - PERFECT form, great squeeze at the top…4th set my form broke down. I didn’t have anything left, so I was using body momentum on the 3rd rep and I failed altogether at 6.

Reverse curl (forearms): 4 sets, 7 reps. Butter. I felt like I was a V8 engine on cruise control. Sweat was dripping, the barbell was smooth, controlled…

Roller wrist flexion with the 75 lb chain, 4 sets, 7 reps. I failed on sets 3 & 4. I only got 3 reps on the 4th set. My arms were - still are - trembling with exhaustion.

It’s a good thing I don’t work my back again for a week, because I’m going to need every single day to recover from today’s workout. It was AWESOME!

Finished with a 15 minute ride on the stationary bike, sucked down 2 bottles of monster milk banana creme (that stuff is so delicious), got on the Harley, and now I’m home…and I am going to lay some serious pipe to my wife tonight. A man needs some bootie!

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Dinner: 2 cajun-style talapia fillets, 2 cups cauliflower. Can’t wait for carb day tomorrow! I’m gonna have chipotle burritos, pancakes, some banana bread…mmmmmm

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Really enjoying your writing and experience.
Wanted to add my .02 as I have similar stats to you. I’m a bit older 43 6’3" 228, I’m on TRT and have used btwn 100-200mg/wk (I add 350-400 wk here and there) I also use Aromasin. BTW, I love being on TRT…best I have felt since my early 20’s.

DBOL, I used 60mg per day for 3 wks last year, it really doesn’t kick in until the second week, when it does
look out, literally you will be adding weight to the bar at every workout. Be mindful of your blood pressure on it though.

TEST-E even with the Dbol kick, you are looking at WK3 before it takes hold, some guys it takes longer.
I use 29g slin pins for shallow IM and there is literally no pain or pip. I am only injecting btwn 50-125mg
at a time with the one I use, but when I do more I find that 2 injections with no pip better than one deeper one with a larger pin and subsequent discomfort.

Do you have a Tanita or other body fat scale ? I know they aren’t all that accurate, but the one I have also measures hydration. Based on the hydration #, and my libido I can tell if I am keeping my E2 in proper range.
The hydration # can also clue you in on how much water gain you are taking on vs muscle gain.

Lastly, I know your goal is to add lean mass, and I understand that you
want to force your body to use its fat store as the fuel for growth. But the fact is, you need a calorie surplus in order to get the growth you are after. Based on your workouts, 3500 calories and what you have in body fat isn’t going to be enough to get you what you want, even with all that gear.
Carbs of the right type, and time, (like after your workouts) aren’t going to hurt you.
Have a look at this article, there is also a part 1 to it if you search the articles A New Way to Eat - Part 1

I’ll be following along…good luck !

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Breakfast: 3 pancakes, 2 banana-bread muffins
Lunch: 4 chicken tenders, side of curly fries
Dinner: Pad Thai from Pei Wei

CARB CARB CARB

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OK, weigh day. I have a scale by FitBit that wirelessly synchs online so I have an automatic record of my weight and body-fat % (it doesn’t track hydration). I’m not so worried of its accuracy - or convinced it’s accurate at all - but I do pay attention to trends.

At the beginning of this thread I listed my stats as starting weight of 225 lbs and body-fat % between 12 - 13%. These were very good estimates, but now we’re tracking precisely - as they say in business, “everything measured improves”. That’s why I measure my dick at least twice a week.

Cycle Start: Weight 228.4 pounds, body-fat 14.4%. This comes out to 196 lbs lean muscle, 33 lbs fat.
Today (end of week 1): Weight 232.8 lbs, body-fat 13.8%. This comes out to 201 lbs lean muscle, 32 lbs fat.

Analysis: I gained 5 pounds of muscle and lost 1 pound of fat for a net 4 pound gain after week 1, before the test levels have really even built up in my bloodstream. Needless to say, I am thrilled. For the sake of argument, let’s say I keep this pace up for 8 weeks, maintain that weight the final 4 weeks of the cycle, and then lose 1/3 of that after PCT. I would end up gaining 20 lbs, finishing the cycle at 250 lbs, adding 28 pounds muscle and losing 8 pounds of fat, with a final bf% of 10.6 (really close to my goal of being under 10).

After week 1, at least, my theory behind the low-carb AB approach seems to be working. My scale is pretty basic - the scale usually treats water retention as a higher fat content, since fat and water have such similar electrical resistance. Since my bf% measurement has decreased, it tells me that any water retention has been more than offset by depleting fat reserves. I will be carefully monitoring this - a lot of you have expressed criticism about how few carbs I eat on weekdays, and ya’ll are much more knowledgeable about this topic than I am, so I’m not arrogant enough to dismiss your input - so if after week 2 or 3 my gains drop off quickly than I will probably up my weekday carbs significantly. But after week 1, this seems to be working really well.

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So, my tanita scale, what I have noticed over the last year. When I hold more water it shows my body fat % as lower. As my weight increases along with the amount of water I am holding it shows a lower % of body fat.

I believe it has to do with the electrical resistance, as you alluded to.
Last year on the 3 weeks of 60mg of Dbol per day, I gained 12lbs in 3wks. Three days after
I stopped the Dbol I lost 6lbs, all water.

If you can gain 15 solid lbs on your cycle and keep a good 10lbs after PCT you are winning.
In one week with 500mg of T and 30mg/day of Dbol, I’d say your 5 lbs is 80% water.
The real gains are just around the corner, it will be night and day differences.

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[quote]aspengc8 wrote:

[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

[quote]SonoraStorm wrote:
Thanks Massive Guns. I use FitBit’s web-app to track my food, so I am pretty sure I’m at least 95% accurate (since almost none of my food comes out of a box, portion sizes can vary a little bit here and there). I aim for 250 - 300 grams of protein a day, and less than 25g carbs. Regarding upping my carbs, my theory - and I could be completely wrong - is that since the DBol increases glycogen storage, a carb deficit prevents storing that cheap energy in the muscle, my body will instead turn to fat stores and create glycogen indirectly ythrough Gluconeogenesis. My theory’s based on research done at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

We’ll see…[/quote]

If you eat that few carbs, you lose protein since a portion of it turns to carbs. Therefore, if you are using steroids, you either need to eat even more protein, or add some carbs. I’m familiar with the anabolic diet. Most people using gear do better with a higher carb intake.[/quote]

You are NOT familiar with the AD based on your quote. Thow whole purpose of the AD is to use fat as fuel, since it has a metabolic pathway to convert to blood sugar. If he is eating enough fat, protein is spared.[/quote]

Thats odd because I have the ebook on this computer?

  1. If you eat enough fat, then no glucenogenesis takes place either…

  2. Which is why dropping carbs too much makes you look flat and is a bad idea if you are on gear

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Pin 3 this morning, right butt cheek, 250 mg Test-E. Nicked a vein going in…good thing I aspirated first and found it. My butt cheek was not amused.

Time to spend today in the jacuzzi…

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Didn’t have time for breakfast this morning; car wouldn’t start due to PCM going bad, so had to get it towed in, grabbed a cup of coffee at the dealership, now at work. :frowning:

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mid-morning snack: Monster Milk Protein shake, two servings.
Lunch: 2 tilapia filets, spinach salad with grated parmesan, olive oil/lemon juice for dressing.

My ass HURTS. Serious bruising.

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So - Yesterday was Chest day. Week 2 is “Intense” week; first exercise of a muscle group is to failure, then everything after aims to be between 8 - 10 reps.

Fly, dumbbells: 3 sets, each to complete muscle failure. 3 minutes rest.
Bench Press w/ dumbbells: 2 sets, 10 reps each.
Pec Deck, 2 sets, 10 reps each
Decline bench press, dumbbells: 2 sets, 10 reps each.

Concentration curl, dumbbells, 3 sets to failure, each arm.
Cable Curl, 2 sets, 10 reps each.

Seated twist, 3 sets, 30 reps each. Fuck me.
Hanging leg raise, 3 sets, 30 reps each. If you think I got to 30 reps on a single one of these, you outcha’ goddamn mind.

Today was leg day, but we had a prep for a board meeting, so I’ll need to make it up tomorrow, assuming the board meeting gets out on time.

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Today - legs in the morning, pin of Test-E after workout.

Leg workout:

Leg Extension: 3 sets, each set to failure
Leg press: 2 sets, 10 reps each
Hack Squat: 2 sets, 10 reps each
Leg Curl: 3 sets, each to failure
Wide Stance Leg press: 2 sets, 10 reps each
Reverse Hack Squat: 2 sets, 10 reps each
Seated Calf-Raise: 3 sets, each to failure
Standing calf-raise: 2 sets, 10 reps each
15 minute run to finish.

Whew!

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Yesterday was Shoulders/triceps:

Lateral Raise, dumbbells: 3 sets, each set to failure.
Military press, barbell: 2 sets, 10 reps each
Front Raise, cable: 2 sets, 10 reps
reverse pec deck, 2 sets, 10 reps
Forward triceps extension, cable: 3 sets, each to failure
Close grip bench press, 2 sets, 10 reps
Incline sit up, 3 sets, 30 reps each
Seated leg raise, 3 sets, 30 each (I failed before 30 on sets 2 and 3).

When I took off my shirt last night as I got in bed, I passed by the mirror and did a double-take. I am probably about 240 right now. My chest and shoulders are popping out, and my arms are full. It’s a nice feeling :slight_smile:

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Today was back/forearms:

Seated Row: 3 sets, each to failure
Lat Pulldown: 2 sets, 10 reps each
Cable Pullover: 2 sets x 10
High Row, hammer machine: 2 sets x 10
Shrug, smith machine: 3 sets each to failure
shrug, dumbbells: 2 sets x 10
wrist curl, dumbbell: 3 sets, each to failure
Hammer curls: 2 sets x 10

My forearms are so pumped it’s painful. It feels like the muscle is about to burst through the skin. They’ve also got a lot of water in the muscles, causing them to look a little swollen…my forearms look like Popeye.

I have wood all the time.