The last gay wedding I was at was pretty nice. Beautiful church, nice people and great food. As an added bonus- no drunken mullet heads wanting to fight with the DJ to play AC/DC.
fwiw- these were two very conservative, non-flamboyant gays that the vast majority of people they deal with on a regular basis would never know or have an inclination to think that they are gay. As are most of the homosexuals I’ve known.
I can somewhat understand the “get back in the closet” thing. I find it irritating when that is the only thing someone is. Aside from the mannerisms and affectations, it obscures a lot of the better elements of a persons personality. By “comming out” I think a lot of people do themselves a disservice by putting some very good personality traits into the closet.
In my experience the vast majority of homosexuals are not in your face or flamboyant. It’s a stereotype usually perpetuated by people who don’t know that many gay people.
Also kudos to you for going to a gay wedding and not spontaneously combusting. I know that is a big risk for heterosexuals who go to gay weddings.
It was somewhat obligatory. I helped the guy get sober and was there as he built a new life. No way I was going to miss out on the culmination of so much hard work.
I did make sure to keep a can of copenhagen and a spent bullet casing on me as charms to keep out the gay. I also found a kinda sexy chick that worked at the church (old labyrinth style place) to sneak out with me and catch a smoke a few times. Manhood intact.
Going to guess we are dealing with some bullshit facts considering the entire site says fag a million times. But you’re just a drive by troll anyways leaving little far right crumbs and then taking off
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fwiw- these were two very conservative, non-flamboyant gays that the vast majority of people they deal with on a regular basis would never know or have an inclination to think that they are gay. As are most of the homosexuals I’ve known.[/quote]
Every last one I’ve met has been flamboyant. That’s part of the “undesirable” for me, as I don’t knowingly get all macho around them and would appreciate the same consideration. An exception I’ve ran across was one of my wife’s bosses. It’s no secret to anyone he’s gay, but he knows enough about me to not flaunt it if we’re all out dinner or whatever with her coworkers. And I don’t give him a rash of shit about his gayness either.
Exactly.
Of course they do. That puts out a vibe of “All i care about is that I’m gay.”
The one I know (wife’s boss) has many good traits and one of those is that we can agree to not make one another uncomfortable by discussing sex.
Hell, I don’t discuss my marital bed stuff with anyone anyway, and damn sure wouldn’t discuss sex with people if I wasn’t married either. It is rude and lacks class to show one has no restraint.
I’m going to guess you don’t know that many gay people but you can lie so it doesn’t really matter. And very few of them only care about their gayness. Many have more money, better abs, and deadlift more than you.
Interesting you don’t feel like discussing sex in public but you would like a hetero pride parade. Like many things you say they don’t add up.
But it does suck that you and your wife have to split up when menopause hits. Wouldn’t be right of you to stay together without the ability to procreate
Nope I sure don’t know many. 3 total that I’m award of, and if some are gay and I’m not aware of it, I prefer it stays that way.
Having more money, better abs and deadlifting more than me isn’t a feat to be proud of but ok sure.
I didn’t say I want to have a hetero pride parade, I said maybe we should, we being a collective term.
Yeh funny. It would take an act of God for us to split up. We both meant it when we promised “until death we do part” dammit. I thought I was clear on that.
That brings up a good point about gay men IMO-I don’t worry about them hitting on my wife. But the fact is she could scare the biggest guy away real quick with a look, so no worries about it. Besides, I am THE man whom her soul loves. Her cheating on me is an infinitely unlikely thing.
But us splitting because we can’t procreate has been covered, at least I thought so. The intended use of the genitals doesn’t depart with menopause, only their ability to create new life, which has been there since forever, whereas with a gay couple it didn’t exist at all.
Biology and Math 101: man + woman + sex = the way nature intended things. [Man + man] OR [woman + woman] + sex = no solution.
Funny. Yeh, I really want to be gay. Ask anyone how much sense that would make about me. I mean the sight of a guy’s hairy ass just totally does it for me. Damn you busted me :/. I’m so ashamed of hiding it through 31 years with my woman, 2 kids, distinguished service to country, etc. I’m guessing sure, that’s my deepest hidden desire and a bunch of bros on an Internet forum outed my country ass. Omg I’m gonna have to tell my wife just before our 28th too. Damn what a rough day.
I didn’t say you wanted to be gay merely that a lot of the most anti gay people end up being gay.
Though you do talk about it a lot with unique names. Fudge packer, sweet boy, guys hairy asses, your boners around other guys. I just think that article is interesting don’t you? Funny how the thing some people fight so much is just the thing they end up.
So, to be clear, the phrase “every last one” was an exaggeration in the first place (because you cited an example of one whose behavior is more cowed, at least in your presence), and if you know “3 total” and one is OK with you, that sweeping judgement that “every last one” is flamboyant refers to a population of two gay people.
If that is accurate, then you’re letting an experience with a very small group of people color your judgement to an absurd degree. Through my wife’s choir and opera connections, we know a lot (several dozen, at least) and, as I stated earlier, most are normal people that just want to go about their lives (like Skyz said, you would never know they’re gay unless you asked them - it’s just one part of their personality). Sure, a few are more colorful about their homosexuality, but I view that as just another personality trait, no more annoying than someone who talks incessantly about being a Steelers fan or who won’t shut up about the latest Kardashian scandal. I mean, if you think a flamboyant gay man is annoying, you should try talking to a goddamn Steelers fan. They’re insufferable.
Further, when you put out the vibe of “All right, fags, you can be gay as long as you don’t talk about it around me” that you alluded to in mentioning your wife’s boss, you’re basically self-selecting what you think of as the gay population. There may be some other homosexual males somewhere in your circle, possibly some with whom you share a lot more common interests; knowing that you’re a firm homophobe, they are unlikely to ever discuss that part of their personality with you; consequently, the only people you know of as gay are flamboyant ones (since they just don’t give a shit what you think), which leaves your judgement of what gay people are limited to the 2 flamboyant ones that you know. See how that cycle works? Your possibility of ever forming a different judgement of gay people is shut down because you’ve decided that any homosexual in your midst had better be damn quiet about it, so you’ll never meet anyone besides the flamboyants, and continue to assume that’s representative of all gay people.
One of my staff members is gay. He’s short, fat, balding, and very un-fashion conscious. I would never have guessed that he was gay; he worked for me for six or seven months before casually dropping it in conversation, and even then it wasn’t a “LOOK AT MAH GAY PRIDE” thing, just sort of happened in casual conversation. It’s a complete nonissue in our workplace. You’ve probably walked past and/or talked to some version of this guy at least a thousand times - at the gas station, the grocery store, the diner, whatever other public places you may frequent - but you didn’t know he was gay, so that didn’t factor into your calculus of the percentage of homosexual males who are in-your-face flamboyant gay.
I think we’re pretty much in agreement here, just to take this a bit further; I would extend this point by saying that this isn’t unique to flamboyant homosexuals. This is true of anyone who highlights one specific thing about themselves to the degree that it becomes annoying.
This can also be said about proselytizing vegans, overzealous CrossFitters, marathon runners, Steelers fans, etc.
I love strength training, but I don’t really talk about it unless someone asks or I get the sense that I’m around people who would want to engage in a discussion on the subject. But we all probably know (or have overheard at the water-cooler) at least one meathead with a one-dimensional personality who can’t go an entire adult conversation without bringing up his pursuit of gainz. I definitely know some CrossFit noobs that took it up six months ago, and now they can’t wait to tell everyone how fabulous their “box” is; and as for Steeler fans, I mean, seriously, fuck those guys. If I see a damn SIXBURGH shirt, I know that I’m dealing with an imbecile.
Indeed i read that article, and yes it’s interesting. And in many cases it’s true, as the bard said, “Methinks thou dost protest too much.”
My collection of adjectives is a result of working with and living around super macho types. The words amuse me in addition to making some valid points about the lifestyle. And, I like to expand my vocabulary, especially words that aid me in my sarcastic nature.
[quote]I think we’re pretty much in agreement here, just to take this a bit further; I would extend this point by saying that this isn’t unique to flamboyant homosexuals. This is true of anyone who highlights one specific thing about themselves to the degree that it becomes annoying.
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Good observation.
I don’t know any crossfit people. Their stuff sounds intense and it makes sense they’d talk about it a lot with fellow enthusiasts, but trying to dominate a conversation with one’s hobby can be annoying as hell.
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I love strength training, but I don’t really talk about it unless someone asks or I get the sense that I’m around people who would want to engage in a discussion on the subject. But we all probably know (or have overheard at the water-cooler) at least one meathead with a one-dimensional personality who can’t go an entire adult conversation without bringing up his pursuit of gainz. I definitely know some CrossFit noobs that took it up six months ago, and now they can’t wait to tell everyone how fabulous their “box” is; and as for Steeler fans, I mean, seriously, fuck those guys. If I see a damn SIXBURGH shirt, I know that I’m dealing with an imbecile. [/quote]
Football fans in general who won’t shut up about it are bad enough, but Steelers fans are “imbeciles” by definition IMO! It should be listed in the thesaurus: Steelers Fan:
Imbecile.
So there’s one we agree on.
And to take it a little further, Packers fans must all be sweet boys! Hahaaa! Couldn’t resist since the adjective thing came up in conjunction with a convo about homosexuals.
However, homosexuality is a topic I don’t actually bring up. As you can tell, I’ll respond to it, but as for bringing up the topic I’ve no desire to do so.
Ok sure, that’s true about other things as well though. There are plenty of types who aren’t going to detail their business around me, Frickin anti-gunners come to mind cause I’d probably react even more harshly to them than anyone. Want to hear my list of adjectives for THAT demographic?!
But I thought all homosexuals were required to take a class on that stuff
See what I mean? They’re among us, some all stealthy and shit. And just when I think all is well, you have to kick THAT paranoia off in my mind - thanks Now every short, fat dude I run across will be suspect. They better thank God there’s no McCarthy-like inquisition going on! They’re kinda like snipers that way huh: It’s not when you see them that you need to worry
Now every short, fat dude I run across will be suspect. They better thank God there’s no McCarthy-like inquisition going on! They’re kinda like snipers that way huh: It’s not when you see them that you need to worry 