[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Sikkario wrote:
Just out of curiosity, who is the retard in your avatar?
Me.
Ha ha…no seriously. Tell me it’s some rap retard or something. [/quote]
LMAO!!! The little puerto rican shit talker needs to hit the fucking weights.
Or is he just a latin lixy who does nothing but troll the political forum?
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
pookie wrote:
Maybe he could hide underneath a burka.
A pink burka?[/quote]
You don’t wear pink before Ramadan, fool.
[quote]will to power wrote:
I don’t hate Iran, but their homophobia is disgusting. [/quote]
30 Years ago gays were beaten in Australia and being gay was a crime. You cannot expect a culture and civilization completely different to your own to accept the things you accept. What seems normal to you or me, can be morally wrong to them. These are crimes of morality, and with time morality changes, but you cannot expect them to think the same as you.
I don’t think homosexuality is acceptable behavior. That’s cultural, I don’t wish to waste my time lynching a gay, but I also wouldn’t talk to a man who swallowed another man’s semen face to face or at all.
I don’t respect that, I guess I’m a bigot, but it just disgusts me.
[quote]typerr wrote:
will to power wrote:
I don’t hate Iran, but their homophobia is disgusting.
30 Years ago gays were beaten in Australia and being gay was a crime. You cannot expect a culture and civilization completely different to your own to accept the things you accept. What seems normal to you or me, can be morally wrong to them. These are crimes of morality, and with time morality changes, but you cannot expect them to think the same as you.
[/quote]
I’m from the Middle East. I completely understand what you’re saying, but they’re killing people for being gay. There’s really no defending that.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I don’t think homosexuality is acceptable behavior. That’s cultural, I don’t wish to waste my time lynching a gay, but I also wouldn’t talk to a man who swallowed another man’s semen face to face or at all.
I don’t respect that, I guess I’m a bigot, but it just disgusts me.[/quote]
Because gay men love the taste of semen, just like all dem high school girls…
(yes, you are a bigot. Congratulations =D )
In other news. Iran’s parliment, fearful of the rapid spread of Christianity, looks set to pass law which would doom apostates to an early death.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.1988866222
Should religious minorities, within these types of oppresive and brutal islamic regimes, band together and take up the tactics of islamic terrorists? Meaning, bombing their holy sites and mosques, targeting their clerics, road side bombs against their police and security forces, etc.
I only ask because of the tendency to examine how, and if, the US brings terrorism upon itself, on this here board. A “Well, what do you expect is going to happen?” So, are oppresive Islamic societies about due some attacks from Christian terrori…ahem, freedom fighters?
Would we examine how Islamic supremacy caused such attacks?
Heck, maybe African animists striking at muslim/arab targets? Would they be freedom fighters?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
In other news. Iran’s parliment, fearful of the rapid spread of Christianity, looks set to pass law which would doom apostates to an early death.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.1988866222
Should religious minorities, within these types of oppresive and brutal islamic regimes, band together and take up the tactics of islamic terrorists? Meaning, bombing their holy sites and mosques, targeting their clerics, road side bombs against their police and security forces, etc.
I only ask because of the tendency to examine how, and if, the US brings terrorism upon itself, on this here board. A “Well, what do you expect is going to happen?” So, are oppresive Islamic societies about due some attacks from Christian terrori…ahem, freedom fighters?
Would we examine how Islamic supremacy caused such attacks?
Heck, maybe African animists striking at muslim/arab targets? Would they be freedom fighters? [/quote]
I think persecution will only spread the church more quickly as it did in china. In the case of Africa, when northern Nigeria turned to shari’ah, all of the Christians moved to the southern part. The Chinese would tell you that persecution spreads the gospel. We certainly have that example from the Roman empire as well. I don’t think the church can take up arms, but this is a difficult question. I think we can definitely expect it here. We’ve certainly earned it.
Just following up on the theme of Christianity in the ME. Note the caution. But a positive sign, nonetheless.
[i]DOHA, Qatar �?? Qatar’s first Christian church has no cross, no bell and no steeple.
And when 5,000 faithful flock to Our Lady of the Rosary to celebrate its historic consecration this weekend, they pray no one will notice.
Father Tom Veneracion, the parish priest, is worried about a backlash.
“The idea is to be discreet because we don’t want to inflame any sensitivities,” he says. “There isn’t even a signboard outside the church. No signs at all.”
Qatar’s fledgling Catholic community considers its sprawling $15 million saucer-shaped facility a victory. A 15-minute drive into barren desert, it has been built with the blessing of the nation’s emir.
But some people in this Muslim country have branded it an offense; one prominent politician has called for a national referendum to determine its fate.
And as the church lookd forward to its first Easter service, the controversy is getting considerable attention among this gas-rich country’s press.
“The cross should not be raised in the sky of Qatar, nor should bells toll in Doha,” wrote Lahdan bin Issa al-Muhanada, a leading columnist in Doha’s Al-Arab newspaper…[/i]
[quote]Sloth wrote:
In other news. Iran’s parliment, fearful of the rapid spread of Christianity, looks set to pass law which would doom apostates to an early death.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.1988866222
Should religious minorities, within these types of oppresive and brutal islamic regimes, band together and take up the tactics of islamic terrorists? Meaning, bombing their holy sites and mosques, targeting their clerics, road side bombs against their police and security forces, etc.
I only ask because of the tendency to examine how, and if, the US brings terrorism upon itself, on this here board. A “Well, what do you expect is going to happen?” So, are oppresive Islamic societies about due some attacks from Christian terrori…ahem, freedom fighters?
Would we examine how Islamic supremacy caused such attacks?
Heck, maybe African animists striking at muslim/arab targets? Would they be freedom fighters? [/quote]
If they did start using terrorist tactics against Iran, would the continued oppression of Christians then become okay? Would you tell people who said ‘the bombings of Mosques is wrong, but this situation is caused by the oppression of Christians which should be stopped’ that they were supporting terrorists? Or is it different when it’s Christians and not Muslims?
[quote]will to power wrote:
Sloth wrote:
In other news. Iran’s parliment, fearful of the rapid spread of Christianity, looks set to pass law which would doom apostates to an early death.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.1988866222
Should religious minorities, within these types of oppresive and brutal islamic regimes, band together and take up the tactics of islamic terrorists? Meaning, bombing their holy sites and mosques, targeting their clerics, road side bombs against their police and security forces, etc.
I only ask because of the tendency to examine how, and if, the US brings terrorism upon itself, on this here board. A “Well, what do you expect is going to happen?” So, are oppresive Islamic societies about due some attacks from Christian terrori…ahem, freedom fighters?
Would we examine how Islamic supremacy caused such attacks?
Heck, maybe African animists striking at muslim/arab targets? Would they be freedom fighters?
If they did start using terrorist tactics against Iran, would the continued oppression of Christians then become okay? Would you tell people who said ‘the bombings of Mosques is wrong, but this situation is caused by the oppression of Christians which should be stopped’ that they were supporting terrorists? Or is it different when it’s Christians and not Muslims?[/quote]
You first. How do you feel about it?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
will to power wrote:
Sloth wrote:
In other news. Iran’s parliment, fearful of the rapid spread of Christianity, looks set to pass law which would doom apostates to an early death.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.1988866222
Should religious minorities, within these types of oppresive and brutal islamic regimes, band together and take up the tactics of islamic terrorists? Meaning, bombing their holy sites and mosques, targeting their clerics, road side bombs against their police and security forces, etc.
I only ask because of the tendency to examine how, and if, the US brings terrorism upon itself, on this here board. A “Well, what do you expect is going to happen?” So, are oppresive Islamic societies about due some attacks from Christian terrori…ahem, freedom fighters?
Would we examine how Islamic supremacy caused such attacks?
Heck, maybe African animists striking at muslim/arab targets? Would they be freedom fighters?
If they did start using terrorist tactics against Iran, would the continued oppression of Christians then become okay? Would you tell people who said ‘the bombings of Mosques is wrong, but this situation is caused by the oppression of Christians which should be stopped’ that they were supporting terrorists? Or is it different when it’s Christians and not Muslims?
You first. How do you feel about it?[/quote]
Oppression of the Christians is wrong, bombing mosques and holy sites etc is also wrong. If the oppression is bad enough I would consider targeting security forces to be a resistance effort rather than terrorism.
Well, executing converts to Christianity would be bad enough, I assume. So, if the law passes in Iran, they’d be freedom fighters.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Well, executing converts to Christianity would be bad enough, I assume. So, if the law passes in Iran, they’d be freedom fighters.[/quote]
Would they be freedom fighters to you if they were blowing up mosques and targeting clerics? Killing civilians? Would you think that was wrong but understand the desperate situation and call for it to be changed, perhaps?
[quote]will to power wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Well, executing converts to Christianity would be bad enough, I assume. So, if the law passes in Iran, they’d be freedom fighters.
Would they be freedom fighters to you if they were blowing up mosques and targeting clerics? Killing civilians? Would you think that was wrong but understand the desperate situation and call for it to be changed, perhaps? [/quote]
Mosques and Clerics that propogate such laws up to the governmental level? Maybe so. They would the ones lobbying for such a law. Markets or everyday civilians? No. Security personnel? Sure. We are talking about laws executing people simply for changing thier religion, after all.