5’10"-5’11", and to be fair, I think he was closer to 195 in that picture.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
5’10"-5’11", and to be fair, I think he was closer to 195 in that picture.[/quote]
Serious wheels.
ha, i just give my opinion on the topic and now im part of a posse-- cool
that pic of ebombs legs= major motivation— im about his height and hope to sport that kind of development some day in the near future
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
ha, i just give my opinion on the topic and now im part of a posse-- cool
that pic of ebombs legs= major motivation— im about his height and hope to sport that kind of development some day in the near future[/quote]
Welcome to the zraw’s posse group
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
ha, i just give my opinion on the topic and now im part of a posse-- cool
that pic of ebombs legs= major motivation— im about his height and hope to sport that kind of development some day in the near future[/quote]
Welcome to the zraw’s posse group[/quote]
can we have special posse avatars?
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
ha, i just give my opinion on the topic and now im part of a posse-- cool
that pic of ebombs legs= major motivation— im about his height and hope to sport that kind of development some day in the near future[/quote]
Welcome to the zraw’s posse group[/quote]
can we have special posse avatars?[/quote]
Sure. We just take lots of trenbolina and eat several pounds of horse meat every day and in a couple of years we can all take similar pictures for our avatars.
Welcome to the family.
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
ha, i just give my opinion on the topic and now im part of a posse-- cool
that pic of ebombs legs= major motivation— im about his height and hope to sport that kind of development some day in the near future[/quote]
Welcome to the zraw’s posse group[/quote]
Can we get t shirts with a picture of you dressed as a scientist measuring out protein powder in beakers and measuring jugs?
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
ha, i just give my opinion on the topic and now im part of a posse-- cool
that pic of ebombs legs= major motivation— im about his height and hope to sport that kind of development some day in the near future[/quote]
Welcome to the zraw’s posse group[/quote]
Can we get t shirts with a picture of you dressed as a scientist measuring out protein powder in beakers and measuring jugs?[/quote]
CT is a member of Zraw’s posse.
CT even speaks like Zraw!
Camille Leblanc is too!!!
Zraw’s actually a member of MY posse
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Camille Leblanc is too!!![/quote]
She’s the posse’s lead cheerleader
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]moogweasel wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]moogweasel wrote:
Eat some more cals the next few weeks (for me was carbs I increases first) and re-check.
[/quote]
How much more food? And how much more cals? And just how are you going to figure this out without calculating or at least portion control (eg, handful of carbs, palm size of meat portion, etc.)[/quote]
Dude are you dieting for a show or what? I Just add around 50g - 100g of carbs to my post work out meal - extra rice usually, over the course of a week or two If I goi mental and splurge on crap I smooth out and feel bloated. Know ones body. If i’m smoothing out I’ll maybe reduce carbs and add some fats.I respect Stu’s opinion about the measuring etc, but he’s a competing bodybuilder and ‘the devil is in the details’ at that level.
You wanna be the the guy who carries around chicken breasts and broccoli in tuperware and breaks out in a sweat when someone offers to order pizza(No offence meant Stu but I used to live with a ameteur bobybuilder who did these things and others…Clen freak-outs and all sorts) Stu looks better than I ever had or will so if that’s where you wanna be he’s the man to heed.
If you can’t ‘eye’ your portion control of clean foods maybe weighing what you eat for a few weeks will give you an idea of where your at in terms of macronutriients. Just try shit out and see what happens. Why stress?
[/quote]
I weigh/measure the majority of my meals and am nothing like the neurotic individual you just described. There is a middle ground, you know?
it helps that 2/3 of my daily meals are packed the night before because I work on a remote site, so hopefully no one judges me for carrying a lunch bag with me when I go to work. If I go out to eat and the restaurant isn’t listed in the calorie counter app that I use (hugely beneficial tool, btw), then I’ll eye-ball my portions, but humans are notorious for over-estimating food portions so I much prefer to know rather than guess, especially when knowing doesn’t require that much additional effort.[/quote]
I meant no offense buddy - I was using a real life example of someone I know personally.
The OP was asking for advice about lean gaining and food quantities, and I was just pointing out that there are more what some people would call extreme measures (no pun intended) that will most certainly get results but may have an impact in other areas. It’s all about investment for me. I eye my food and have a good idea of how my body responds to carbs, cardio and training intensity. I could weight and measure all my food, ensure 100% adherence to my diet (my way of eating generally) and get 20% - 30% better results. I don’t weight or measure I judge and adjust depending on how I look
and take it from there. I eat out, have a few beers and glasses of wine at the weekend and love the odd bowl of ice-cream. I’m happy. I take a lunch box to work sometimes but only eat 2 maybe 3 meals per day plus para-work out nutrition. It works but I had to experiment at first. I think maybe folk are afraid to try new stuff that maybe goes against traditional ideals.
Again, I wasn’t an attack on those people that weigh and measure thier food and use Tupperware - that’s one way, there are others
Can the body get used to a lower calorie diet (adjust it’s metabolism) and still get stronger add muscle? For years I needed to stay at certain leanness and followed IF so, was getting about 2200 calories. In that time I got stronger but, did not really add muscle. I am now trying to add muscle as fast and smart as possible so, have obviously raised my caloric intake. The first few weeks I was at about 3500-3700 calories and for the last 3 weeks I have averaged 4200-4500 calories. I have added very little fat (lower abs and back) and if anything look fuller and leaner.
[quote]moogweasel wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]moogweasel wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]moogweasel wrote:
Eat some more cals the next few weeks (for me was carbs I increases first) and re-check.
[/quote]
How much more food? And how much more cals? And just how are you going to figure this out without calculating or at least portion control (eg, handful of carbs, palm size of meat portion, etc.)[/quote]
Dude are you dieting for a show or what? I Just add around 50g - 100g of carbs to my post work out meal - extra rice usually, over the course of a week or two If I goi mental and splurge on crap I smooth out and feel bloated. Know ones body. If i’m smoothing out I’ll maybe reduce carbs and add some fats.I respect Stu’s opinion about the measuring etc, but he’s a competing bodybuilder and ‘the devil is in the details’ at that level.
You wanna be the the guy who carries around chicken breasts and broccoli in tuperware and breaks out in a sweat when someone offers to order pizza(No offence meant Stu but I used to live with a ameteur bobybuilder who did these things and others…Clen freak-outs and all sorts) Stu looks better than I ever had or will so if that’s where you wanna be he’s the man to heed.
If you can’t ‘eye’ your portion control of clean foods maybe weighing what you eat for a few weeks will give you an idea of where your at in terms of macronutriients. Just try shit out and see what happens. Why stress?
[/quote]
I weigh/measure the majority of my meals and am nothing like the neurotic individual you just described. There is a middle ground, you know?
it helps that 2/3 of my daily meals are packed the night before because I work on a remote site, so hopefully no one judges me for carrying a lunch bag with me when I go to work. If I go out to eat and the restaurant isn’t listed in the calorie counter app that I use (hugely beneficial tool, btw), then I’ll eye-ball my portions, but humans are notorious for over-estimating food portions so I much prefer to know rather than guess, especially when knowing doesn’t require that much additional effort.[/quote]
I meant no offense buddy - I was using a real life example of someone I know personally.
The OP was asking for advice about lean gaining and food quantities, and I was just pointing out that there are more what some people would call extreme measures (no pun intended) that will most certainly get results but may have an impact in other areas. It’s all about investment for me. I eye my food and have a good idea of how my body responds to carbs, cardio and training intensity. I could weight and measure all my food, ensure 100% adherence to my diet (my way of eating generally) and get 20% - 30% better results. I don’t weight or measure I judge and adjust depending on how I look
and take it from there. I eat out, have a few beers and glasses of wine at the weekend and love the odd bowl of ice-cream. I’m happy. I take a lunch box to work sometimes but only eat 2 maybe 3 meals per day plus para-work out nutrition. It works but I had to experiment at first. I think maybe folk are afraid to try new stuff that maybe goes against traditional ideals.
Again, I wasn’t an attack on those people that weigh and measure thier food and use Tupperware - that’s one way, there are others[/quote]
It’s OK man. We know your posts are reasonable.