Future Music

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[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
Jesus, turn off the radio, guys. Did I read someone calling Justin Timberlake an actual musician? Try some of these, they can actually play an instrument:

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My knowledge of his music comes from my wife downloading his album so she could rock out in the gym. My wife isn’t one to normally listen to pop music. She’s a tattooed hard-ass, Glenn-Danzig-love-child-wanting, pure punk.

Because I like to form opinions based on empirical evidence I listened to it. It wasn’t genius and I don’t rock it in any of my media outlets but the guy has real talent–please note that I am not calling him an innovator in the least.

I’ll bet you based your opinion on what your “friends” think. Lame.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
rmccart1 wrote:
Though, in looking for “future music,” which I’m interpreting to mean innovative, you’d be better off looking to the past.

No, I wouldn’t. I am asking for NEW music and, honestly, if you are the type of person who constantly makes claims that all new music sucks, you are no doubt simply disconnected and probably hate most of anything that doesn’t fit into a very fine box in your head.[/quote]

If my interpretation is correct (and it may not be–you may simply be interested in material which is chronologically new, though I can’t imagine why someone would ignore high quality, innovative music simply because it is not current) then YES, you would be.

Assuming that you have not already listened to and assimilated all of it (you haven’t), there is always more of every type of music in the past than what is being produced right now. Which brings me back to my original point: in looking for “new” music (again, assuming this to mean music that is new to YOU, or whomever), there is a wealth of it that has already been produced.

Not to say there’s nothing going on now (notice how I never said that), only that there’s literally a TON of stuff just waiting for you already, so don’t exclude it.

And no, my tastes don’t fit into a little box. I had to sift through quite a bit to find things to recommend which were rockish, since I gathered that’s what you’re looking for. Most of my collection is not rock, and most of it probably wouldn’t interest you, so I attempted to save some time by omitting them.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rmccart1 wrote:
Jesus, turn off the radio, guys. Did I read someone calling Justin Timberlake an actual musician? Try some of these, they can actually play an instrument:

My knowledge of his music comes from my wife downloading his album so she could rock out in the gym. My wife isn’t one to normally listen to pop music. She’s a tattooed hard-ass, Glenn-Danzig-love-child-wanting, pure punk.

Because I like to form opinions based on empirical evidence I listened to it. It wasn’t genius and I don’t rock it in any of my media outlets but the guy has real talent–please note that I am not calling him an innovator in the least.

I’ll bet you based your opinion on what your “friends” think. Lame.[/quote]

If by “friends,” you mean my ears and brain, then yes. I base all my musical opinions on those of my friends.

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[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
rmccart1 wrote:
Though, in looking for “future music,” which I’m interpreting to mean innovative, you’d be better off looking to the past.

No, I wouldn’t. I am asking for NEW music and, honestly, if you are the type of person who constantly makes claims that all new music sucks, you are no doubt simply disconnected and probably hate most of anything that doesn’t fit into a very fine box in your head.

If my interpretation is correct (and it may not be–you may simply be interested in material which is chronologically new, though I can’t imagine why someone would ignore high quality, innovative music simply because it is not current) then YES, you would be.

Assuming that you have not already listened to and assimilated all of it (you haven’t), there is always more of every type of music in the past than what is being produced right now. Which brings me back to my original point: in looking for “new” music (again, assuming this to mean music that is new to YOU, or whomever), there is a wealth of it that has already been produced.

Not to say there’s nothing going on now (notice how I never said that), only that there’s literally a TON of stuff just waiting for you already, so don’t exclude it.

And no, my tastes don’t fit into a little box. I had to sift through quite a bit to find things to recommend which were rockish, since I gathered that’s what you’re looking for. Most of my collection is not rock, and most of it probably wouldn’t interest you, so I attempted to save some time by omitting them.
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I didn’t just mention rock. Timbaland doesn’t produce rock music. I mentioned several genres of music of which you only focused on one and made a statement as if there is nothing new to be looked at.

No one needs a lesson as to how much of a connoisseur you are when it comes to music. I have no doubt that my tastes in music are about as broad as you can get compared to most people and am not blind to past artists. If you can’t hold a conversation about the topic, why make a statement at all?

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There are few things in life worse than a music snob.

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:

While reading this post, “Smashing Pumpkins!” kept running through my head.

Heck, I thought they’d broken up. Hearing that they’re putting out a new album makes me happy.[/quote]

Theyre touring too, theyre playing a festival that Im going to in August. Im not a big fan but I’ll probably check them out.

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Prof “X”:

It seems really hard to find new artists that really excite people. I doubt there was an era with more “one hit wonders” like in the last 10 years. Trying to compare any new bands to the likes of Metallica, Pearl Jam, Led Zeppelin est. would propably be the same as comparing apples with grapes.

Anyway, I managed to get my hands on some “new” music about 4 weeks ago! I really enjoyed the following:

  • Cloud 9
  • Joe Satriani
  • The Roots
  • Proverb (South African rap artist)
  • Incubus (Full album: Light Grenades)
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I think every genre in every decade has a period of one hit wonders. I know the 90’s had it, as did the 80’s and the 70’s.

To me, that’s a sign that the music industry gods have found what people like, and mass produce the shit out of it. It’s a good sign that the the genre in question is in dire need of something new.

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Hear the sound of music
Drifting in the aisles
Elevator prozac
Stretching on for miles

The music of the future
Will not entertain
It’s only meant to repress
And neutralise your brain

Soul gets squeezed out
Edges get blunt
Demographic
Gives what you want

Now the sound of music
Comes in silver pills
Engineered to suit you
Building cheaper thrills

The music of rebellion
Makes you wanna rage
But it’s made by millionaires
Who are nearly twice your age

One of the wonders of the world is going down
It’s going down I know
It’s one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares
No-one cares enough

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[quote]Malevolence wrote:
Doubledown wrote:
Tool is still putting out good stuff (albeit only once every 5 years or so).

You mean, putting the same album out every 5 years?[/quote]

Hahaha, they definitely did that for the past two albums.

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Check out OCTANE, an upcoming band from Phili. They have some decent stuff. Inspired by metallica, tool, alice in chains, I like their sound.

Rcently played with bands like fuel, breaking benjamin, three doors down, sevendust and disturbed.

http://octanerocks.com/

A

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The new Kings of Leon cd is pretty good. They’re one of the best newer rock bands out there…

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Haha, refuting your notion that I am close-minded in regard to music does not make me a snob. I like how you attempt to force people into damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t positions. Fortunately, there are more than two options here.

My apologies for the confusion about what you were looking for. I didn’t mean to imply that your tastes were narrow, I may have simply misread something, or may have made the rock reference up completely to myself. At any rate, my previous recommendations still stand, and bonus points for whoever mentioned Joe Satriani.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
I think every genre in every decade has a period of one hit wonders. I know the 90’s had it, as did the 80’s and the 70’s.

To me, that’s a sign that the music industry gods have found what people like, and mass produce the shit out of it. It’s a good sign that the the genre in question is in dire need of something new.
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Huh?

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WantAbs wrote:
I haven’t seen My Chemical Romance mentioned yet, I think they are one of the more talented rock bands out there right now. The new album has some great tunes, so does the second album. I think they get a bad rep cause alot of teens relate with the music/lyrics but if you listen to them they do rock, great musicians/entertainers IMO.

I’m not whoakay with my chemical romance at all. most of the stuff i’ve heard from them is typical punk/emo.

30 seconds to mars debut album was pretty good. revolution and capricorn were good tunes. i haven’t heard the new one yet.

jerry cantrell - degredation trip is a good album. lots of anger and soloing. i heard that the chains were getting back together with a new singer. i don’t know if it will be the same without layne though…

has anyone heard the Daughtry album? I’ve heard one single but i was wondering if the album was any good…

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
john w wrote:
As a grunge/alternative/classic rocker I would say the past five-seven years have been a total dead end for rock. It seems lyrical as well as musical talent have been thrown to the wayside with the current popularity of pop/punk and “nu” metal.

What I want to know is, what happened to the guitar solo? Every song I hear on the radio, I wait for a real solo, not a crappy melodic or pentatonic solo but something complex. I wonder if we’ll ever have anything of the caliber of hendrix, page, vai or van halen.

It seems that the current generation is more concerned with trends than they are with quality of sound. Punk has lost its idea status and become a formulaic sound with predictable lyrics about mom and dad misunderstanding them, getting picked on by jocks, and girls not wanting to go out with them.

We turn to metal/hard rock hoping for some sort of escape but we get the same rehashing of lyrics about personal problems usually delivered via “fake anger” or uttering gutteral noises and screaming with background riffs that change little from song to song.

My roommate in college was a musician and he told me once that music was a form of art and that art was all about showing, not telling. It’s like poetry, describing something without actually saying what it is. Hearing songs like “down with the sickness” or “american idiot” seems to confirm that our current stock of musicians have forgotten this.

I’m waiting for 7/7/07 when the Smashing Pumpkins release their new album. I will say they are one of the few bands that I
A. don’t skip songs on their albums
B. actually enjoy listening to all their albums

The Darkness, Permission to Land is a good album. They’re a british throwback to late70s/early 80s hair metal. They can wail and every song has one solo and some even have outro solos.

Chevelle, wonder what’s next and their newest album are pretty good. Pete has a really good voice and he’s a good guitarist. They don’t solo but the chugging riffs and “punch you in the face” lyrics make up for it.

Rooney’s self titled album is good. Really laid back surf rock with a majority of dark lyrics makes for a fun listen. Did i mention they solo?

SocialBurn Everyone was a good album. They can solo as well. “down” and “everyone” were the singles off the album.

While reading this post, “Smashing Pumpkins!” kept running through my head.

Heck, I thought they’d broken up. Hearing that they’re putting out a new album makes me happy.[/quote]

yeah man they are definitely my favorite band. i’d say they were easily the best rock band of the nineties, with alice in chains coming in as a close second.

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Silversun Pickups impress me. It’s very original compared to all the copycat bands around.
PS.What’s with the token “Demon or Satan” voice in every heavy song these days?

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I agree that a lot of new music is good. Along with some of the older stuff mentioned here.

I support most people’s choices but I have to mention Daft Punk. Everyone knows Discovery by them and most know Homework but their new album Human After All has gone old school robot dance.

It’s pretty good.

Lamb Of God - Sacrament is also a quality metal album. At first I liked a few songs off their old albums but nothing really hooked me, until I listened to Sacrament.

The opening track shows that they’ve become more musical and retained the ability to make ball crushing metal as well.

I second Enter Shikari. Not for everyone but at least check them out. Their album Take To The Skies came out recently but they have lots of EP’s as well.

Devildriver, whilst not new, are amazing. Short songs that make you work hard at the gym. Throw on the self titled album and some songs just fit perfectly. Knee Deep and What Does It Take (To Be A Man) should get any real man into the mood to go heavier.

Ill Nino have always been a favorite band of mine. Some songs stand out a lot more but all songs have their quality. The new album One Nation Underground had great songs on.

Sticking with spanish influence:

Breed 77 - En Mi Sangre/In My Blood is a great album. Softer than Ill Nino but still as good.

Another spanish band that is not known so much is Terroristars. Think sorta like Mudvayne but mixed with spanish influence then gone insane. Satanistras is an amazing album I think.

Not neccesarily all NEW music but definitely modern and worth checking out.

Oh and I second Alexisonfire again.

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son volt is a great band with a real sound all their own. the vocals that jay farrar lays down are genius to me. he doesn’t have a beautiful voice or whatever but the way he works it and finds melodies out of what would normally be a clump of abstraction is really great stuff.

it’s odd to compare because they’re an alt/country type band but farrar sometimes reminds me of thelonious monk the way he cobbles his melodies and throws these hidden dis-jointed rhythmic curveballs at you in a seemingly simple country/rock format.

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I have seen the future of music and it is Sanjaya.

DB