Future Music

Three Days Grace and Billy Talent are a couple of good bands that I would say are in the same vein as Linkin Park.

Prof X, look into Progression Sessions from LTJ Bukem. It’s Drum-n-Bass. Some of the MC’s like DRS and Conrad really exhibit some edgy rap. And the music puts most of the stuff on the air to SHAME.

[quote]Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030 (one time album made by gorrilaz, mr lif, mark bell aka LFO, kid koala)

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Deltron 3030 was a one-time album made by Del Tha funky homosapien, Dan the automator and Kid Koala. Featuring guest artists.

That being said, Music tracks were recently completed for the follow-up album for the Deltron project. So, it is not exactly a one-time album anymore.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This thread makes me smile.[/quote]

Because it became a discussion of favorite tracks/music instead of a discussion on the future of music maybe?

I didn’t read the whole thread, so this band may have been posted before. But the one band that came immediately to mind was

Gnarls Barkley.

I believe there was a thread on them way back when, I picked up on them from that, and let me tell you, they are amazing. Great fusion of sounds and styles.

First off, I’ll agree that Gnarls Barkley is amazing.

[quote]Ren wrote:
wolfmother rocks, plain and simple.
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Ugh, check out The Parlor Mob or Rose Hill Drive.

If you only listen to the radio you’re going to be very disappointed. But don’t think for a second that music is going downhill.

Frankly, I’m disappointed to find that I’ve heard of nearly every act mentioned in this thread, and most of them are pretty awful. Get out there and listen to some local bands, or make an effort to check out some lesser known stuff. And feel free to look outside the country!

I’ll put up my own list later.

As a grunge/alternative/classic rocker I would say the past five-seven years have been a total dead end for rock. It seems lyrical as well as musical talent have been thrown to the wayside with the current popularity of pop/punk and “nu” metal.

What I want to know is, what happened to the guitar solo? Every song I hear on the radio, I wait for a real solo, not a crappy melodic or pentatonic solo but something complex. I wonder if we’ll ever have anything of the caliber of hendrix, page, vai or van halen.

It seems that the current generation is more concerned with trends than they are with quality of sound. Punk has lost its idea status and become a formulaic sound with predictable lyrics about mom and dad misunderstanding them, getting picked on by jocks, and girls not wanting to go out with them.

We turn to metal/hard rock hoping for some sort of escape but we get the same rehashing of lyrics about personal problems usually delivered via “fake anger” or uttering gutteral noises and screaming with background riffs that change little from song to song.

My roommate in college was a musician and he told me once that music was a form of art and that art was all about showing, not telling. It’s like poetry, describing something without actually saying what it is. Hearing songs like “down with the sickness” or “american idiot” seems to confirm that our current stock of musicians have forgotten this.

I’m waiting for 7/7/07 when the Smashing Pumpkins release their new album. I will say they are one of the few bands that I
A. don’t skip songs on their albums
B. actually enjoy listening to all their albums

The Darkness, Permission to Land is a good album. They’re a british throwback to late70s/early 80s hair metal. They can wail and every song has one solo and some even have outro solos.

Chevelle, wonder what’s next and their newest album are pretty good. Pete has a really good voice and he’s a good guitarist. They don’t solo but the chugging riffs and “punch you in the face” lyrics make up for it.

Rooney’s self titled album is good. Really laid back surf rock with a majority of dark lyrics makes for a fun listen. Did i mention they solo?

SocialBurn Everyone was a good album. They can solo as well. “down” and “everyone” were the singles off the album.

Mastodon, Wolfmother, and TV on the Radio have made some pretty good CDs recently.

The new Nine Inch Nails CD Year Zero is also worth checking out.

And with Rage Against the Machine touring this summer and Audioslave broken up, the world might be saved.

Boards of Canada
Aphex Twin
Squarepusher
Future Sound of London
Mouse on Mars
Zero 7
Paul Van Dyke
Radiohead

^ future music for ya

[quote]dead lead wrote:
is one of those 4 RJD2s dead ringer? that is in my top 10 albums of all time. i haven’t really kept up with hip hop got any recommendations in the similar vein?

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If you liked RJD2 and havent been turned onto any of the others from that label I would stop what your doing right now and pick up:

Cannibal Ox/Cold vein
El-P/Fantastic damage and/or Ill sleep when your dead

Ill also second/third whatever Gnarls Barkleys album as an instant classic.

Thanks for the suggestions btw, Deltron is a classic for sure but I could never get down with Del’s rhyme style, and thus it never really got burn with me. But like the others I suggested, its one of those albums that was different enough that made you think, and realize how shitty most commercial hip hop is, and how interesting the form can be when it’s not pigeonholed into some mass market acceptable format.

Im not exactly as into the ‘scene’ as I once was, and was exposed to way more music via friends and social shit at 20 than I have been at 30. Anything at this point that dosent sound like the same shit I’ve already heard is going to get burn with me lately. Dont laugh, I’m excited about Bjorks new album. That bitch killed it on SNL the other night…

[quote]cally wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
Alexisonfire

They aren’t really new, but they are just now starting to be well known.

This could be anywhere in the world:

Rough Hands: (Not the actual video)

To a Friend (Not the actual video)

Alexisonfire is great, but you really gotta hear Dallas Green’s solo stuff. He’s the back up singer in Alexis and has an extremely soulful sound. Very talented writer/artist. Very different sound from his other band.[/quote]

I listen to both the City and Colour, and Alexisonfire version of “Happiness by the Kilowatt” I love them both. Yea he has a really good voice.

Other voices I really like are Eddie Veddar of Pearl Jam, Maynard James Keenan of A Perfect Circle/Tool and the singers of Evanescence and Lifehouse.

Tool is still putting out good stuff (albeit only once every 5 years or so).

Dream Theater’s newest wasn’t all that great, but the two before it were very good.

Coheed and Cambria has a sound that I enjoy.

Anyone know of new prog bands that are in DT’s league?

[quote]Doubledown wrote:
Tool is still putting out good stuff (albeit only once every 5 years or so).
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You mean, putting the same album out every 5 years?

[quote]john w wrote:
As a grunge/alternative/classic rocker I would say the past five-seven years have been a total dead end for rock. It seems lyrical as well as musical talent have been thrown to the wayside with the current popularity of pop/punk and “nu” metal.

What I want to know is, what happened to the guitar solo? Every song I hear on the radio, I wait for a real solo, not a crappy melodic or pentatonic solo but something complex. I wonder if we’ll ever have anything of the caliber of hendrix, page, vai or van halen.

It seems that the current generation is more concerned with trends than they are with quality of sound. Punk has lost its idea status and become a formulaic sound with predictable lyrics about mom and dad misunderstanding them, getting picked on by jocks, and girls not wanting to go out with them.

We turn to metal/hard rock hoping for some sort of escape but we get the same rehashing of lyrics about personal problems usually delivered via “fake anger” or uttering gutteral noises and screaming with background riffs that change little from song to song.

My roommate in college was a musician and he told me once that music was a form of art and that art was all about showing, not telling. It’s like poetry, describing something without actually saying what it is. Hearing songs like “down with the sickness” or “american idiot” seems to confirm that our current stock of musicians have forgotten this.

I’m waiting for 7/7/07 when the Smashing Pumpkins release their new album. I will say they are one of the few bands that I
A. don’t skip songs on their albums
B. actually enjoy listening to all their albums

The Darkness, Permission to Land is a good album. They’re a british throwback to late70s/early 80s hair metal. They can wail and every song has one solo and some even have outro solos.

Chevelle, wonder what’s next and their newest album are pretty good. Pete has a really good voice and he’s a good guitarist. They don’t solo but the chugging riffs and “punch you in the face” lyrics make up for it.

Rooney’s self titled album is good. Really laid back surf rock with a majority of dark lyrics makes for a fun listen. Did i mention they solo?

SocialBurn Everyone was a good album. They can solo as well. “down” and “everyone” were the singles off the album.

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While reading this post, “Smashing Pumpkins!” kept running through my head.

Heck, I thought they’d broken up. Hearing that they’re putting out a new album makes me happy.

Jesus, turn off the radio, guys. Did I read someone calling Justin Timberlake an actual musician? Try some of these, they can actually play an instrument:

-Behold…the Arctopus
-The Bad Plus
-The Deserts of Tr?un
-B?la Fleck (likely known to many of you, though his earlier music, especially pre-Flecktones era, isn’t nearly as familiar as it should be–it’s his best)
-Estradasphere
-Gordian Knot
-Jaga Jazzist
-Ron Jarzombek (solo as well as his band Spastic Ink)
-Eyvind Kang
-Sleepytime Gorilla Museum

For just a few. Not all of these are rock, but most are at least in that general area. Most are fairly recent, as well (within the past few years). Though, in looking for “future music,” which I’m interpreting to mean innovative, you’d be better off looking to the past. Bands such as Mahavishnu Orchestra, Magma, John Zorn, Allan Holdsworth, Albert Ayler, John Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, and others have a much more futuristic sound than many of the throwaway “artists” of today.

I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Joss Stone- she’s only 20!

[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
Though, in looking for “future music,” which I’m interpreting to mean innovative, you’d be better off looking to the past. [/quote]

No, I wouldn’t. I am asking for NEW music and, honestly, if you are the type of person who constantly makes claims that all new music sucks, you are no doubt simply disconnected and probably hate most of anything that doesn’t fit into a very fine box in your head. That means your opinion is least important to me. Anyone who can’t see that Timbaland has talent and ignores Legend, Hamilton or Thicke…or anyone who acts like even Justin Timberlake has produced no good music at all is more likely a general cynic who only mentions “the past” because they know few people will argue with them about classics.

It would be much like the person who claims there have been no good movies since the Godfather. They no doubt didn’t even really like the Godfather when it first came out and only mention it now because it is a favorite to many all over the world.

If you are the type of person who see NO value at all in any music today, keep your opinion to yourself. I doubt too many people give a shit and you may want to consider pulling the extremely large stick out of your ass.

[quote]mastodon wrote:
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Joss Stone- she’s only 20!
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she was mentioned at least twice. once in bold…

as for the future of music, it looks fragmented and full of niches. there is no longer a mainstream or it’s crossover potential. the upside is for those who really dig music live shows will become more intimate and meaningful as only the musicians will be around and not posers looking to get famous becasue their won’t be any more fame. the downside is people will not share in a mass cultural experience of the greats, if there are any; in such a fragmented culture he who would be king cannot.

i do like this guy citizen cope:

and my love for hank III is pretty well known :

I haven’t seen My Chemical Romance mentioned yet, I think they are one of the more talented rock bands out there right now. The new album has some great tunes, so does the second album. I think they get a bad rep cause alot of teens relate with the music/lyrics but if you listen to them they do rock, great musicians/entertainers IMO.

KILLSWITCH ENGAGE - I rock this group on a daily basis, great stuff.

Silent Civilian - ex lead singer of Spineshank, with an actually metal band instead of an industrial rock sound. Great tunes from beginning to end.

Mika - Yeah my wife likes this one but the guy has talent, not sure what I Think yet, not crazy about him but I don’t instantly turn it off.

30 Seconds to Mars - It’s good,but not sure what else to say, I like to listen to it.

That’s all I can think of right now. Great thread, really made me think and I wrote some of the bands/artists I haven’t heard yet down.

[quote]mastodon wrote:
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Joss Stone- she’s only 20!
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I did.

Along with her, in the UK, Sharon jones and Amy winehouse are headlining a modern retro soul movement, classic soulful sounds, with modern production and just overall talent everywhere. Good stuff.