[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Professor X wrote:
and people can make fun of Justin Timberlake all they want to…but the guy can sing.
Probably one of the most soulful young voices to be heard in a very long time–not just that, he’s an actual talented musician too.[/quote]
I couldn’t agree more, “dick in a box” brings tears to my eyes.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
rmccart1 wrote:
Though, in looking for “future music,” which I’m interpreting to mean innovative, you’d be better off looking to the past.
No, I wouldn’t. I am asking for NEW music and, honestly, if you are the type of person who constantly makes claims that all new music sucks, you are no doubt simply disconnected and probably hate most of anything that doesn’t fit into a very fine box in your head. That means your opinion is least important to me. Anyone who can’t see that Timbaland has talent and ignores Legend, Hamilton or Thicke…or anyone who acts like even Justin Timberlake has produced no good music at all is more likely a general cynic who only mentions “the past” because they know few people will argue with them about classics.
It would be much like the person who claims there have been no good movies since the Godfather. They no doubt didn’t even really like the Godfather when it first came out and only mention it now because it is a favorite to many all over the world.
If you are the type of person who see NO value at all in any music today, keep your opinion to yourself. I doubt too many people give a shit and you may want to consider pulling the extremely large stick out of your ass.[/quote]
I love this post X. I’m not a Timberlake fan (outside of Dick in a Box) but I’m not going to slander him either. What comes to mind immediately when I read your post is that these are probably the same people that say “oh, I don’t watch SNL anymore; it’s just not funny anymore like it was back in the day”.
Whatever, quite frankly I find that these narrow minded people refuse to embrace change…why would you want to watch freaking Gumby dammit and Mr. freaking Bill when there is fresh comedy to enjoy out there.
Sorry I digress from music but there is an artistic parallel, musically I think the industry needs an overhaul; radio stations tend to play certain songs over and over when I know damn well there is much more out there (and I listen to an alternative station; I’m not talking pop radio).
Word of mouth (like this thread “X” nice work) is the best way to check out new music. Radio is a business and has too many faults.
I have some Canadian friends that turned me onto a band called Big Sugar so please check them out; my personal favorite is “All Hell for a Basement”. They’re not exactly new but the lead singer/musician is very talented and has had an evolution of success in Canada.
They also like The Trews which I wasn’t really impressed with but I appreciated the opportunity to check out some fresh stuff. Check out Grady as well as Sam Roberts too.
Bottom line: Stop living in the past all ye naysayers; open your ears and listen to some new stuff until your ears bleed…they need to be flushed out.
[quote]djoh615893 wrote:
A few pages back someone was saying that they aren’t a fan of the female fronted bands. Get out you pens and paper. There are some out there that I listen to in the gym to get fired up.
Arch Enemy- a lot of people I know that it’s a guy at the mic. When I tell them it’s a woman, I usually have to show the videos to prove it. Hardcore and LOUD tunes. From Sweden
Nightwish- Music doesn’t get much classier than this. Tarja sings on a level with Sarah Brightman… she sings her ass off. The concert clips are the best, and she’s even hotter that Angela from Arch Enemy… Angela is built for porn. From Finland
Leaves’ Eyes/Liv Kristina- She too is hot as hell, and she keeps getting better over the years, and still hotter. She sings with shitloads of emotion. Check out Legend Land. It’s the newest album, and the title track should be a quick sell. From Norway/Germany.
Within Temptation- From The Netherlands. Damn good artist. They have a song called Running Up That Hill, which so far is one of their best in my opinion.
Lacuna Coil- Brought eroticism into the picture with her body. Ever see the video for Our Truth, or Heaven’s a Lie? Holy hell!! She sings her ass off too. I’d fucking marry her. From Italy
All of these artists have videos on Google. Check them out. The albums are on Amazon most of the time. I had to order the Nightwish- End of an Era CD from Germany. No shit! Not a single person in the U.S. was selling a copy. Nightwish fired their singer in 2005 for being a stingy bitch. It’s too bad. She was a badass singer. They have already lined up a new singer but made no announcement on who it is. I guess they want to release a new album first.
I’m sure most of you already know of Evanescence. No point on pitching that band. Awesome chick singing for them too. And she’s so hot!
Don’t discount the hottie girls singing for the rock/metal bands. They are kicking some ass and giving real credit to the rock scene.[/quote]
Sleater-Kinney also rocks.
[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
Honestly I don’t really listen to anything that came out past 1995. Music nowadays is terrible. Everything is about image, image, image. I really don’t share the optimism that others have shown for music on this thread. It seems that more and more young people listen to todays music simply because they are told that it is good, rather than making a decision for themselves. I remember the first time I heard Pearl Jam’s Ten (Although they suck now), Nirvana’s Nevermind, Red Hot Chili Peppers’ Uplift Mofo Party Plan, Appetite for Destruction, Straight Outta Compton, and License to Ill. I had no idea what those people looked like or what they were all about. The music just sounded good. Same thing with music that came out before I was born: Jimi Hendrix, The Temptations, Led Zeppelin, the Doors. The music was just good. Nowadays there is a face and image to put to every song. I’m willing to bet more than half of the popular groups out today don’t even write their own shit. The music industry isn’t about the art of making music anymore, it is all about making some fat rich bastard an even more fat, rich bastard. [/quote]
Your ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance.
[quote]Adamsson wrote:
Dream Theater… 
All i have to say.[/quote]
Hell yeah man. Systematic Chaos isn’t their best album, but I still love them to death
I’ll just say that anyone even the least bit interested in Metal/Power Metal should check out Sonata Arctica. Look into the albums “Winterheart’s Guild,” “Ecliptica,” and “Silence”. You won’t regret it.
They have a keytarist 
Hopefully in the future, scales and modes will be more fully developed once again, triads will be used, actual instruments will be played in harmony rather than processed on a computer and talent will make a resurgence.
Music now is really pretty crappy. In rock, a few power chords are substituted for fully developed scales and modes, blues triads and corresponding scales are pretty much dead. sound effect boards have taken the place of talent, jazz is more non existant than blues and harmony/instrument coordination has died with it. Talented Ska bands carried it on for awhile, but now the mighty boss tones substitute for good ska and even they are old.
Talent wise, rap sucks. It can be fun to listen too, but it is angry, simple minded poetry and it’s only musical components are simple beats and even less involved pitches put to computer generated rhythms (talentless) which leaves much to be desired if you want music.
There is very little harmony in todays music. structure and texture are simple at best.
there is nothing very musical about todays music and if that trend continues, music in the future will be non existent. it’ll be random noise.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
there is nothing very musical about todays music and if that trend continues, music in the future will be non existent. it’ll be random noise.
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Funny, a lot of the music that I love is random noise. I’ve really been into Norma Jean and He Is Legend lately, mostly because they are really spaztic and random. I really hated Norma Jean at first because it was just too random and wierd sounding, but after listening to them for a while I actually started to appriciate some of their, um, ‘textures’ because they were actually a guitar band that didn’t sound like a lot of other guitar bands. Same with He Is Legend, at least with ‘I am Hollywood’ which they put out a few years ago.
“Let’s break out the shotguns, we’re going to town”
I’ve always been more satisfied with more underground music, maybe because it just feels more real to me when there isn’t the same politics and money involved. I’ve developed a keen hatred for the radio. Not that there isn’t any innovation in more mainstream music or talent. Stevie Wonder and Phil Collins sure have put out some good music, with regards to technique and taste, even if it isn’t my style.
[quote]subdivision wrote:
texasguy wrote:
there is nothing very musical about todays music and if that trend continues, music in the future will be non existent. it’ll be random noise.
Funny, a lot of the music that I love is random noise. I’ve really been into Norma Jean and He Is Legend lately, mostly because they are really spaztic and random. I really hated Norma Jean at first because it was just too random and wierd sounding, but after listening to them for a while I actually started to appriciate some of their, um, ‘textures’ because they were actually a guitar band that didn’t sound like a lot of other guitar bands. Same with He Is Legend, at least with ‘I am Hollywood’ which they put out a few years ago.
“Let’s break out the shotguns, we’re going to town”
I’ve always been more satisfied with more underground music, maybe because it just feels more real to me when there isn’t the same politics and money involved. I’ve developed a keen hatred for the radio. Not that there isn’t any innovation in more mainstream music or talent. Stevie Wonder and Phil Collins sure have put out some good music, with regards to technique and taste, even if it isn’t my style. [/quote]
out of curiosity, do you know what texture in a musical context means? or the other adjectives?
and that question is just out of curiosity, not a rhetorical question out of spite. i ask because you notated it.
that’s fine if you like random noise. i’m a fan of some of it myself, but i wouldn’t call most of it talent or music.
[quote]mastermoore wrote:
Sigur Ros is a shoe-gazing group from Scandinavia that will blow your mind. Literally, all of the lyrics are gibberish it isn’t even a real language. It?s very atmospheric music.
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For atmospheric:Brian Eno or Mogwai
Electronic music is really pushing the boundaries, with digital technology, Has anyone heard of Collabs 3000, its a collaboration of Dutch tecno producer Speedy J and German Techno DJ/Producer Chris Liebing and they are really out there in terms of live performances blending production and djing into a unique show of music
swissrugby67 wrote:
Artic Monkeys
The Kooks
Hot Chip (electro funk/rock)
Klaxons
Good stuff and might I add…
Snowden
TV on the Radio
Muse
Baby Shambles
Apart from Muse the above are all good reasons why the British Rock scene (at least mainstream) is embarrasing at the moment. Yawn
Right now I think we are at the beginning of a transitionary period. The generic music, seem to be less common then it was.
I was told that the only reason I didn’t like the music was because I was old. (Damn whipper snapper, consarn them all)
Yet everybody knows that the music will stop at a certain time, allowing the singer to sing something supposedly important right before they play without vocals.
I just want to know who is selling these MAD LIBS music sheets?
Now I haven’t been trying to search out good music. Record companies now market my putting a whole lot of shit out, and seeing what floats to the top. And since it is easier to get a record deal, too many don’t think they need to have talent.
I am sure there is some skilled music out there being lost in the sea of drum machine music that a lot of cars seem to run on. Screw the gas, my car runs on the radio. (Oh crap, a commercial. Won’t make the light.)
I am looking for today’s ZZ-Top, or Pink Floyd. But nobody is in that class.
[quote]IainK wrote:
swissrugby67 wrote:
Artic Monkeys
The Kooks
Hot Chip (electro funk/rock)
Klaxons
Good stuff and might I add…
Snowden
TV on the Radio
Muse
Baby Shambles
Apart from Muse the above are all good reasons why the British Rock scene (at least mainstream) is embarrasing at the moment. Yawn[/quote]
Not quite as embarrassing as the rest of the worlds offerings. Mainstream wise anyway. Although, I wouldn’t say that most of the UK is listening to Babyshambles…more like Mika and other such rubbish. Or keeping their ear to the American ground which offers up Beyonce and other such bullshit.
Muse is one of the better bands to emerge in more recent times. By comparison at the very least.
Out of curiosity, where are most people here going to find new music? Are you more or less stumbling upon it? Recommendations from friends?
I’m just curious because, after getting completely sick of iTunes and the iTunes Music Store, I joined up for eMusic. Since it is mostly independent label music (with a few exceptions), I’m finding myself checking things out I never heard of before or if I had, never truly considered.
I highly recommend it to at least check out. It’s a lot cheaper than iTunes, the songs are DRM-less MP3s at a higher bit rate quality than iTunes and they are giving away 25 free downloads to try it (no strings attached).
Yep got a lot of time for Muse. Apparantly their Wembley gig was fantastic.
Not as great as Metallica will be on the 8th of july!! Just a shame HIM are supporting. Now theres a naff band made popular by 14 year old girls wearing too much black make up lol! Still a perfect time to go to the bar.
[quote]texasguy wrote:
Hopefully in the future, scales and modes will be more fully developed once again, triads will be used, actual instruments will be played in harmony rather than processed on a computer and talent will make a resurgence.
Music now is really pretty crappy. In rock, a few power chords are substituted for fully developed scales and modes, blues triads and corresponding scales are pretty much dead. sound effect boards have taken the place of talent, jazz is more non existant than blues and harmony/instrument coordination has died with it. Talented Ska bands carried it on for awhile, but now the mighty boss tones substitute for good ska and even they are old.
Talent wise, rap sucks. It can be fun to listen too, but it is angry, simple minded poetry and it’s only musical components are simple beats and even less involved pitches put to computer generated rhythms (talentless) which leaves much to be desired if you want music.
There is very little harmony in todays music. structure and texture are simple at best.
there is nothing very musical about todays music and if that trend continues, music in the future will be non existent. it’ll be random noise.
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LOL, the underground will always have true musicians in its fold. There are plenty of good Jazz bands esp. in Boston, there’s so many Jaz clubs it’s sickening. Music isn’t dying out or anything, but hey to each his own.
Amos Lee and the Black Keys.
Lee doesn’t fit in with hard theme of this thread, but his talent is obvious and he reminds many of Bill Withers.
The Black Keys are just nasty. Hopefully they’ll stay relatively underground; they’re already licensing some of their stuff for Victoria’s Secret commercials and such. But they’re brand of rock blues crunch Hendrix funk kills on all of their albums.
Admittedly I’m much more a blues/soul fan, but you hard rock guys should check out both of these artists.
so…what do you think of the new Nas album?
some of my current listens in no particular order
3 inches of blood - hair, tight pants, faces melting, wizard fingers and jazz hands.
o.a.r.
atmosphere
gym class heroes
amy winehouse - smokey, husky, womanly voice that blows cookie cutter pop out the water. nice band too.
all that remains - almost perfect noise to me
regina spektor
rise against
death cab - no I dont cut myself, I like how they sound like something from the way back machine.
not quite the ragged edge of new, but makes my ears happy
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
texasguy wrote:
Hopefully in the future, scales and modes will be more fully developed once again, triads will be used, actual instruments will be played in harmony rather than processed on a computer and talent will make a resurgence.
Music now is really pretty crappy. In rock, a few power chords are substituted for fully developed scales and modes, blues triads and corresponding scales are pretty much dead. sound effect boards have taken the place of talent, jazz is more non existant than blues and harmony/instrument coordination has died with it. Talented Ska bands carried it on for awhile, but now the mighty boss tones substitute for good ska and even they are old.
Talent wise, rap sucks. It can be fun to listen too, but it is angry, simple minded poetry and it’s only musical components are simple beats and even less involved pitches put to computer generated rhythms (talentless) which leaves much to be desired if you want music.
There is very little harmony in todays music. structure and texture are simple at best.
there is nothing very musical about todays music and if that trend continues, music in the future will be non existent. it’ll be random noise.
LOL, the underground will always have true musicians in its fold. There are plenty of good Jazz bands esp. in Boston, there’s so many Jaz clubs it’s sickening. Music isn’t dying out or anything, but hey to each his own.[/quote]
The underground scene is full of great music, you are right. I’m from Houston and many bars have excellent blues, jazz (a spill over from the neighboring cajun sub culture)and rock musicians.
i’d say there are more underground musicians with more talent than main stream musicians.
so far, this thread seems to be going the route of mainstream music and what it will be, so i was following that.
i do love to find a random corner bar with live music from unknown artists though. they usually put on better shows and play with more talent then the big productions from mainstream bands.
they actually have to play the music since they can’t rely on expensive equipment to make it sound good for them.
New Orleans isn’t a far drive and i like to go hear Jazz bands play on Bourban street at least a few times a year.
Have you ever been to tennessee? Nashville and memphis both have very fun live music, night life scenes full of talent in all kinds of music.