[quote]winkroar3 wrote:
Man thats alot of shots. You mustve stocked up on pins- or are reusing them-ouch. [/quote]
ya, i’m pretty sick of getting pinned. i would never reuse pins…not that hard up.
I posted some follow up questions in your gyno thread too FG. Just remind us all. You had pre-existing gyno? And this is your first run with a nor19?
Are you lactating at all?
yes.
yes.
only if i squeeze it and twist it around I get a tiny bit of fluid but not much.
so current cycle is
testp 75mg ed
mastp 30mg ed
teste 50mg 2x/w
adex 1.0mg/d until gyno symptoms are gone and then will drop slowly to nothing as the cycle is ending.
I may throw in some proviron at 50mg/d for the last few weeks and the stasis.
also thinking about adding in HOT-ROX now that the tren sweats are gone.
so I am feeling a little decrease in strength since canning the tren but i feel ok.
cramped up like a mofo after just one rep of trying to press 8 plates a side on leg press. might just be a little dehydrated.
glad to be running the test again…even after just 3 days I could feel it drop, after my injection yesterday i had about an 8 hour boner today that kept poking out while I was trying to work. sort of inconvenient because I am in sales.
had a great run tonight. my endurance is back to normal already.
probably won’t run tren again during rugby season unless it is just in 2 week intervals because the decreased aerobic capacity was pretty bad starting around the 2 week mark.
need to start thinking about doing some sort of water manipulation so I can take some final pics. i look pretty good now but I know I can drop a lot of water.
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
yes.
yes.
only if i squeeze it and twist it around I get a tiny bit of fluid but not much.[/quote]
Any fluid is way too much FG. I’m glad you pulled the tren. Damn dude you really gotta get that under control if not gone. I really hope the anastrozole works for ya. Once you’re totally off you best be getting a permanent solution to this problem
ya, tell me about it. i fuckin can’t stand it.
my endurance is fully back to normal again (actually seems to have improved a little from before the tren)…not sure if it was due to doing cardio on the tren (sort of like practicing in colorado) or if it is just the combo of the test and mast.
I found on the last cycle as well that my endurance was best on just test and a little masteron. at that time I was running 600mg/w test enth and 250mg/w mast enth.
I hear ya. Coming off tren is like getting an aerobic boost. A lot of guys find EQ boosts their cardio-capacity too
TO be honest I felt sort of sluggish on EQ but I was pretty heavy at the time and carrying a lot of fat compared to now…my stamina in the gym was incredible though. I could do sets of 30 dips and then be ready to do chest 10 mins later with no fatigue in the muscles. very cool drug by my BP was nuts on it.
Update
June 19th (July 16th) July 25th (Aug 6th) Aug 18
Weight - 232lbs (240lbs) 240lbs (239lbs) 238lbs
Neck - 17" (17") 17" (17") 17"
Arm - 16.25" (16.5") 16.5" (16.5") 16.5"
Shoulders - 53.5" (55.5") 55" (55") 55"
Chest - 43" (44") 43" (42.5") 43"
Torso - 37" (36.5") 35.5" (35.5") 35"
Waist - 37" (36.5") 36" (35.5") 34.5"
Hips - 43" (43.5") 43" (43.5") 42.5"
Upper thigh - 26.5" (27") 26.5" (26.5") 27"
Lower thigh - 21" (21.5") 21.5" (22") 22"
Calf - 16" (16.25") 16" (16") 16"
Well I have lost some more weight off the midsection and I am still leaning out overall a bit. Looking at myself right now (34.5" waist) I easily have another 2" to lose from my abs and lower back (mostly the lower back).
I am def interested in some sort of insulin sensitivity therapy (insulinomics or metformin) because I think that would greatly aid elimination of these trouble spots.
My glutes are much more solid but still have a thin layer of fat on them, they are in better shape though…I was sort of surprised that I lost a full inch off them but only because they look bigger/stronger.
I am def seeing more vascularity in my arms and even a little bit in my shoulders.
Still have this pain in my left nip and I can feel the glandular tissue has grown. I have ditched the 1mg/d adex and am now running 2.5mg/d of letro so hopefully this takes care of it. If not I am gonna have to pull the plug on this cycle entirely which I am not far off from doing anyway.
My hair is now really starting to show the effects of this cycle so I have pulled the masteron in the hopes that it will stop. I may run some proscar after the cycle is done to see if I can reverse some of the effects. Not a huge deal because I have lots of hair but still don’t want to push my luck.
I am now running 75mg/d prop and then 50mg of enth 2x/w. Ideally I would like to run this cycle another 3 weeks and then do a 6 + 6 week stasis and taper.
I think I am gonna hold off on the proviron given the situation with my hair. I may run it during PCT but it is looking unlikely.
I have started running 100iu EOD HCG to see what effect it has…I will bump that to 100iu ED if I am not seeing an increase in size. My HCG unfortunately spent some time in my car during the winter so it may not do very much at all. I thought about leaving this out entirely but I have never used HCG and I am curious to see the effects. I will discontinue use prior to the stasis period.
To be quite honest I really don’t want to come off right now at all. Results are still coming and rugby is going great but the sides are piling up so unfortunately I have no choice. If I can’t manage them this cycle is done.
ok here is a teaser pic to show some of the advancement in my core since the cycle started. I am still planning on doing the water manipulation before the end of the cycle when I will post the full series.
This is the first pic from the start of the cycle…note I was already 3 days in so there was already some water retention in the first pic.
now here is the current pic
Here is one without the flash…you can’t see the detail as well but the change is still pretty obvious
Great progress. How tall are you? Just curious.
6’4"
Looking lean and mean FG nicely done!
If the Mast was killing your hair I concur to delay the proviron addition as it would have similar effects likely.
it may be the DHT but I think it also has a lot to do with the anti-e dose.
i did a test a little while ago to see what a moderate dose of adex (1mg/d for a week and then tapered over a few weeks) would do to my chest and i noticed at the time that I lost a lot of hair.
I assume the combo of the two is even worse.
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I have started running 100iu EOD HCG to see what effect it has…I will bump that to 100iu ED if I am not seeing an increase in size. My HCG unfortunately spent some time in my car during the winter so it may not do very much at all. I thought about leaving this out entirely but I have never used HCG and I am curious to see the effects. I will discontinue use prior to the stasis period.
To be quite honest I really don’t want to come off right now at all. Results are still coming and rugby is going great but the sides are piling up so unfortunately I have no choice. If I can’t manage them this cycle is done. [/quote]
Great progress, FG. You have leaned out quite nicely and still managed to hold to size. Congrats.
AS for the HCG, you will know fairly quickly if it is working. You say it was left in the car, but was it already mixed up? It is supposed to be refridgerated after you mix it with bac water.
thanks man.
i’ve been pretty pleased with the results myself. Now I just need try to overcome these friggin sides and hold on to as much as possible post cycle.
I really let myself go last winter so i dieted (naturally) for about 4 months prior to the start of the cycle. the results were ok, lost some fat but lost an equal amount of muscle in the process…I started at a 42" waist back around feb (wish I would have kept the pic I took then) and got down to 37" pre-cycle where I wasn’t really seeing results anymore (that is when the first pic was taken)…to get down to 34.5" and realize I still have lots left to lose is pretty crazy.
The HCG wasn’t mixed up yet but it came pretty close to freezing in my car (might have even frozen for a bit) so i was worried I might have damaged the powder. I know the powder is more stable than the mixed version but freezing it is still not encouraged.
started at a 42" waist back around feb (wish I would have kept the pic I took then) and got down to 37" pre-cycle where I wasn’t really seeing results anymore (that is when the first pic was taken)…to get down to 34.5" and realize
you must be well happy then. looks good