the new breakdown will look something like this
Test Prop - 500mg/w
Tren Ace - 260mg/w
Mast DiProp - 260mg/w
Primo Depot - 500mg/w
Adex 0.25mg/d
this will give me a total of 1.5gm’s gear per week which was more than I was planning on but what the hell. Go big or go home.
So far I have had absolutely zero sides other than injection site soreness so hoepfully this continues through the tren run…
No nut shrinkage as of yet but when it does start I will start running the HCG at 250iu E3D.
Im not getting these random boners that every speaks of regarding masteron use. However it does seem to take less effort. Quite possibly the 90mg more total tren per week too.
I highly reccomend the 1.5 inch pins as with all my injection spots I sink them 1+" everytime.
Agreed LG. I put that 1.5" all the way in even for delts.
[quote]saps wrote:
Agreed LG. I put that 1.5" all the way in even for delts. [/quote]
Kinda dangerous if the needle breaks off, isn’t it? I am not sure what would happen if you tried to move with a needle in you.
I suppose but considering that’s never happened to me [200+ injections easily] or anyone I know or have met or heard of I guess I’m not too worried. I trust my hand and my BD syringes and needles.
That is kinda a silly thing to say… like - there is ALWAYS that risk.
This happens to those who are rough with their injections, who dont map an area and are not skilled.
The hit a nerve, often femoral in the thigh or glute, contract the muscle, snap the needle, and when the muscle relaxes, the needle tip is sucked into the body.
Nice.
Operation.
Pain.
Embarrassment.
i can imagine this happening to a few select posters here actually.
I have met someone where this has happened and read a couple accounts on the net.
it happens.
JJ
Wow…I have hit a nerve but never freaked out and broke the pin. i imagine that would be uncomfortable getting it removed. you’d feel like a total jackass as well.
LG - I haven’t started the masteron yet…I am just on 50mg/d test prop, 80mg/d primo depot, and 50mg/d proviron…I think it is a combo of the proviron and the test for me. In the car, at my desk, eating dinner…I have always had a hair trigger when it comes to boners so maybe I am a little more sensitive than most.
I basically spent age 14-18 with a book in hand to put in front of my crotch at all times in school because of it, I wore silk underwear once and had to take them off between classes…I can’t imagine what kids go through these days with the way young girls dress now…I was freaking out if I just saw a camel toe or an outline of a boob.
Well, new update.
I feel like total shit but I am getting better.
I am sore as fuck from injections (but the pain is starting to subside in my ass at least), injured wrist still (although the mobility is coming back slowly), and my sleep has been so bad that my back is killing me although the weekend is coming so I should be able to get lots of rest in very shortly. starting to get the ache in the nuts so the HCG might be needed sooner rather than later if I am going to use it.
Injection pain getting a little more manageable. I think my body just needed a bit of time to get used to getting pinned again because it has been a while since my last cycle and I think prop really wasn’t something to ease back into it…oh well.
Hopefully having this weekend off from rugby will give my wrist a chance to recover a bit so I can get to some heavy lifting next week.
very hard to just sit back and rest right now. went for a run today and felt ok except for the back pumps and pain in the joints. might need to taper down the adex a bit.
FG do you inject in a muscle you will train later that day or vice versa?
I try to inject in a muscle that I am not using that day or after training if that isn’t possible…my schedule is pretty packed though so it is difficult to inject somewhere that I can rest for a day or two.
i officially don’t like prop. so far I am 2 weeks into this cycle and have gained nothing other than 6 pounds of water and daily raging boners so I might as well have just done enth. I am seriously considering switching over.
I have barely been able to lift and so far the changes in my physique are pretty minumal.
I guess that my wrist has been partly to blame for not being able to train but I have felt worse on cycle than before the cycle due to the injection soreness. I am using advil and icing but with daily injections there is just no break.
so far the only two places that don’t hurt like a muther fucker are my delts and ventrogluteal sites…I have been resorting to doing injections in the front, mid, and rear delts to try to get more shots in there. The quads are getting better but still basically rule out working legs for a few days afterward. The dorsal gluteal ones are a friggin bitch but maybe it is just because it’s the first time I have pinned them.
Hopefully i have some better news for you guys soon.
FG
sorry for your troubles FG. Yeah at the end of the day I’m pretty convinced the ventro overall is the single best site. I don’t mind the main glute but as I get larger its a bit harder to twist and reach. But in terms of pain and ease its right there with the VG. I’m less and less a fan of the quads. I know its super easy and convenient but I just think the ass is best.
The quads are much more painful… i dunno if its me, but i feel the needle pushing and popping through tissue as it moves through the flesh.
I have pinned my quads enough now that they aren’t so bad. i do get the feeling that it is occassionally popping through layers of tissue rather than just sliding in but it’s no big deal. I really have no issue with the pain during injection, it is soreness afterwards.
i should maybe get one of those roller things…might help break up some scar tissue.
left glute was awkward as hell. I am pretty big, right handed, and not so flexible so I ended up making a pretty big mess of it.
i switched the brand of prop that i am shooting and so far the new one (IP) is totally painless so I am expecting things to improve. wrist is feeling a bit better so as long as it feels ok I am going to test it at the gym tonight with some lifting.
I have my tren now but I am going to wait until I am at 100% to pull the trigger on it.
Hey FG
I have some IP prop, and apart from a few freak injections here and there, I’ve found it to be mostly painless.
Good luck with everything, you should find things get easier with your IP stuff.
so far absolutely no isses with the IP stuff. zero soreness so I am happy with it so far (I am 3 injections in).
Sent you a pm 
hey guys,
just wanted to give a little update.
things are going well. no more issues with soreness and the wrist is feeling a lot better (not 100% but close).
i switched to the 1.5" 23Ga pins which I like a lot more than the 1" 25Ga pins I was using before. will prob use up my 25Ga pins on my delts and my even venture into triceps.
I am starting to like prop a lot more. although it is a bitch to constantly be injecting it is nice to be able to vary the dose so easily (I have doubled up the shots one day and skipped a day here and there to see what changes I feel).
I am currently running 75mg/d prop with 75mg/d primo. I haven’t added the tren and masteron yet due to a mistake on my last order but hopefully it will be added soon.
I was out of town for the weekend and was eating high carb due to lack of options and drank a ton of alcohol and whoally crap did that have a crazy effect on my body. At first I got super pumped up and looked ripped and then the next few days I was just bloated as all hell and suffering from back pumps.
I am back home now and eating better and things have returned to normal. makes me realize what a huge impact carbs have on me when on gear.
In terms of performance my endurance isn’t great right now but my speed is really good and I feel a lot stronger.
Here are my original and updated stats after 1 month:
June 19th (July 16th)
Weight - 232lbs (240lbs)
Neck - 17" (17")
Arm - 16.25" (16.5")
Shoulders - 53.5" (55.5")
Chest - 43" (44")
Torso - 37" (36.5")
Waist - 37" (36.5")
Hips - 43" (43.5")
Upper thigh - 26.5" (27")
Lower thigh - 21" (21.5")
Calf - 16" (16.25")
I am getting a nice size contrast between shoulders, waist, and hips…one of my buddies commented that I am starting to look like a comic book super hero which I guess you could say is an ideal physique. I still have about 2-3" to lose on my midsection and I will be getting close to a classic bodybuilder physique.
besides seeing improvement on a lot of these measurements I also feel a lot more solid. Hopefully this continues and kicks into high gear with the addition of the tren/masteron for the second half of the cycle.
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
hey guys,
just wanted to give a little update.
things are going well. no more issues with soreness and the wrist is feeling a lot better (not 100% but close).
i switched to the 1.5" 23Ga pins which I like a lot more than the 1" 25Ga pins I was using before. will prob use up my 25Ga pins on my delts and my even venture into triceps.
I am starting to like prop a lot more. although it is a bitch to constantly be injecting it is nice to be able to vary the dose so easily (I have doubled up the shots one day and skipped a day here and there to see what changes I feel).
I am currently running 75mg/d prop with 75mg/d primo. I haven’t added the tren and masteron yet due to a mistake on my last order but hopefully it will be added soon.
I was out of town for the weekend and was eating high carb due to lack of options and drank a ton of alcohol and whoally crap did that have a crazy effect on my body. At first I got super pumped up and looked ripped and then the next few days I was just bloated as all hell and suffering from back pumps.
I am back home now and eating better and things have returned to normal. makes me realize what a huge impact carbs have on me when on gear.
In terms of performance my endurance isn’t great right now but my speed is really good and I feel a lot stronger.
Here are my original and updated stats after 1 month:
June 19th (July 16th)
Weight - 232lbs (240lbs)
Neck - 17" (17")
Arm - 16.25" (16.5")
Shoulders - 53.5" (55.5")
Chest - 43" (44")
Torso - 37" (36.5")
Waist - 37" (36.5")
Hips - 43" (43.5")
Upper thigh - 26.5" (27")
Lower thigh - 21" (21.5")
Calf - 16" (16.25")
I am getting a nice size contrast between shoulders, waist, and hips…one of my buddies commented that I am starting to look like a comic book super hero which I guess you could say is an ideal physique. I still have about 2-3" to lose on my midsection and I will be getting close to a classic bodybuilder physique.
besides seeing improvement on a lot of these measurements I also feel a lot more solid. Hopefully this continues and kicks into high gear with the addition of the tren/masteron for the second half of the cycle.
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Hey FG,
Looks like things are finally settling in nicely for you now. That’s great and must be a big mental relief for you.
Just wanting to wish you all the best for a great “second half” here to come with your addition of tren etc.
Good luck with the final leg man.
ToneBone
thanks tone. it was definitely tough to be on cycle and not hitting the gym hard so hopefully it was worth it.
the injury repair/recovery phase is now done (or it will be once I have the rest of my gear)…I was sort of on the fence about starting a cycle when i wasn’t 100% but given that I am all healed up and have actually made some gains I would say that it worked out ok. we’ll see what sort of results the next few weeks produce before I can really judge it a success or failure.
as soon as I rec my tren it is down to business on the cutting phase. i should have 5 full weeks and then it’s on to the taper.
the cycle will then look like this for week 6-10
TestProp 75mg/d
TrenAce 40mg/d
MastProp 35mg/d
Primo 75mg/d (dropped in week 9 and switched for 100mg/w TestE)
I may tweak the diet a bit based on some recommendations from corkonian…not too drastically different from what I am doing now, mostly just a nuitrient timing thing (change when I am eating stuff so the body makes better use of it). I will post the changes if I do.