[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
^Utah, man, where you been? I feel like I haven’t seen you post in days.[/quote]
I don’t have the energy to argue with X and MassiveLulz as much anymore. T-Nation was draining my hope for humanity .
This thread helped tho.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Agreed on the positive change. My mom got interested in kettlebells and my sister started doing Crossfit. Could be better, but its a step in the right direction.
Girlfriend is still in cardioland unfortunately.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Barbelles[/quote]
Lol! Who came up with that? That’s genius.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least where I’m at. [/quote]
It’s much easier(and thus, more appealing) to achieve the mediocre. People will tell themselves anything to feel better about themselves. Why do you think all the fat women talk about “mah curves” when they have tried to diet and lose weight? They accept the inevitable result of lack of hard work, dedication and a little research(seriously appalling to me that people don’t take time to do any research on any subject).
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Barbelles[/quote]
Lol! Who came up with that? That’s genius.[/quote]
Abbey “Pudgy” Stockton wrote a column for women in a fitness magazine in the 40’s titled “Barbelles”. That’s where I heard of the term.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least where I’m at. [/quote]
It’s much easier(and thus, more appealing) to achieve the mediocre. People will tell themselves anything to feel better about themselves. Why do you think all the fat women talk about “mah curves” when they have tried to diet and lose weight? They accept the inevitable result of lack of hard work, dedication and a little research(seriously appalling to me that people don’t take time to do any research on any subject).[/quote]
Spot on, RX Muscle had a recent article regarding the idea that “real woman” are thought to be on the plumper side in the general population.
Sort of devalues the hard work that some girls to do to get into bikini/fitness model shape, that they aint a “real woman”.
So many fat chicks on my fb feed post shit like oh I’m just like Beyonce with my curves, naw ya aint ya whale.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts. [/quote]
Solid post here.
Preach.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
I agree. Kennelly looks great. I would love to look like that. However, how many guys who go about “bulking” and shooting for the “fullhouse” look will actually end up looking that way?[/quote]
The guys with the genetics to gain a shit load of size.[/quote]
Exactly my point. Thank you for doing the legwork for me, big guy. How can you keep advocating the “bulking” approach when it is really only beneficial to the small percentage of lifters who happen to have the genetics for size? Seems pretty ignorant to assume that it is the best way to gain size when it only applies to a fraction of the lifting population. [/quote]
Uhm, no one is telling anyone to bulk up BUT the guys who do not gain fat easily and who gain muscle faster.
MOST PEOPLE won’t ever get that big. Why would I worry about “most people”?[/quote]
We get it you only care about you even though you claim to want to help the masses
[/quote]
Super LOLZ.
Simply put, it takes “above average genetics” to even build muscular arms over 18". That is simply understood. No need to discuss super short lifters with big arms “for their size” just to start an argument.
Bodybuilding has NEVER been for every casual average person…because most of them lack not just the genetics but the drive to even keep this up long enough to get really big.
Look guys, the bullshit drama has gotten a bit old. I just left the gym and am hearing I am back to where I was before my accident in terms of size.
Everyone doesn’t want to look like a dieted down competitive bodybuilder…and that avatar doesn’t look like I don’t know what I am doing.
Yes, I am often directing my posts towards guys who can actually get arms that big without it taking a life time…which means never have you seen me tell someone who gains fat easily to “bulk up”.
Quit making things up and misdirecting entire threads just to keep other people from getting any useful information…simply because you dislike the person giving it.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts. [/quote]
I had 2 grossly obese women approach me and ask me why anyone would want to be as big as me and that it was not attractive. I responded by asking them why anyone would want to be that fat and unable to walk up stairs.
It is sad that it seems being grossly fat or out of shape is hated on less than a female toned and muscular. Muscle on women isn’t acceptable around my parts either, but the few women who I have seen lift hard and heavy look amazing. It amazes me that so many women think that if you lift heavy and hard she will instantly become a pro bodybuilder with huge amounts of muscle and rippling veins. Yeah that happens!
Watch out girls don’t lift weights or you might accidentally become huge and manly looking on accident. Since you know many males with high testosterone struggle to achieve that.
Yea you guys. Stop it. Don’t wanna see the actual trouble maker start to cry…
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts. [/quote]
Watch out girls don’t lift weights or you might accidentally become huge and manly looking on accident. Since you know many males with high testosterone struggle to achieve that.[/quote]
This is exactly what I told my girlfriend before she started Crossfit…now she looks amazing and has learned to snatch, deadlift and squat heavy.
Women be unusual creatures.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts. [/quote]
Watch out girls don’t lift weights or you might accidentally become huge and manly looking on accident. Since you know many males with high testosterone struggle to achieve that.[/quote]
This is exactly what I told my girlfriend before she started Crossfit…now she looks amazing and has learned to snatch, deadlift and squat heavy.
Women be unusual creatures.[/quote]
You will run into the odd female that can gain quite a bit of mass from lifting but very very few and far between.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts. [/quote]
Watch out girls don’t lift weights or you might accidentally become huge and manly looking on accident. Since you know many males with high testosterone struggle to achieve that.[/quote]
This is exactly what I told my girlfriend before she started Crossfit…now she looks amazing and has learned to snatch, deadlift and squat heavy.
Women be unusual creatures.[/quote]
You will run into the odd female that can gain quite a bit of mass from lifting but very very few and far between. [/quote]
Very few.
Not counting that most of the Crossfit Games ladies are running some Anavar to perform at that level.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
So many fat chicks on my fb feed post shit like oh I’m just like Beyonce with my curves, naw ya aint ya whale.[/quote]
Beyonce is a big girl curves or not. It’s like the attention the First lady gets; we are in bad shape if that is the standard we are shooting for. They are both very successful in their own ways, but physical appearancefrom the neck down isn’t one of them.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So what about full house women?[/quote]
I don’t think they really exist. Training for womankind is different and in a much sadder state.
It seems that most women are off in cardioland or have joined Tracy Anderson’s “lengthen and tone” army. Barbelles are few and far between and the full house woman is nearly nonexistent. [/quote]
Cant say that I agree with the last part. Seems to me like women are undergoing a revolution in the gym. I think Social Media has been a big pioneer too, tons of women lifting type memes, bikini/figure competitors with huge IG followers.
My girls coach has more women competitors and clients than male these days. Think women and iron have already hit the tipping point and we should see it continue in the near future. [/quote]
Bikini has made competing more accessible and the Internet is filled with “fitspiration” but a vast majority of the women I encounter still cling to the bulky vs toned myth. Or think that eating some “protein packed” greek yogurt, lifting (easy) weights and doing plyos or something will get them looking like fitness models.
Around here, at least, it’s rare to see a woman going hard in the weightroom. They’ll lift weights, but never heavy enough to struggle or break a sweat. Most of the ones I encounter think BW squats and lunges will get you an ass like Nathalia Melo.
With crossfit and bikini and all the resources on the internet, it’s getting better, but it seems that many women are still misinformed (or lazy and unwilling to work hard). They may be aware of the imprtance of “eating clean” but they haven’t yet grasped the concept of eating enough to fuel your body too.
Just the other day I had a woman ask me how I got such nice arms. I told her that I lift. Her response? “Oh I don’t want to do anything crazy like that”. (WTF was she expecting? “I knit and the needles get really heavy sometimes”). I have a friend that’s about my size that has been called manly or bulky on more than one occasion. By women who drool over Jamie Eason and have pintrests full of “tush tamer” and “bikini bootcamp” workouts.
And speaking of competitors with huge followings, have you seen some of the comments some people make about them? Rude. DLB has a huge following but half of the comments on her photos are still things like “roidzz” " where’d her tits go?" and “too much. Gross”. Muscle may be more acceptable but going beyond that “toned” bikini look is still a no-no in a lot of people’s eyes. At least around these parts. [/quote]
Watch out girls don’t lift weights or you might accidentally become huge and manly looking on accident. Since you know many males with high testosterone struggle to achieve that.[/quote]
This is exactly what I told my girlfriend before she started Crossfit…now she looks amazing and has learned to snatch, deadlift and squat heavy.
Women be unusual creatures.[/quote]
You will run into the odd female that can gain quite a bit of mass from lifting but very very few and far between. [/quote]
Very few.
Not counting that most of the Crossfit Games ladies are running some Anavar to perform at that level.[/quote]
I was going off people I know personally, trained with ect. A woman I dated last year was a D1 sprinter. And she could add mass “easily” at least for a woman. I told her BS when she said she didn’t want to lift Becuase of that. After a month I was blown away.
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
So many fat chicks on my fb feed post shit like oh I’m just like Beyonce with my curves, naw ya aint ya whale.[/quote]
Beyonce is a big girl curves or not. It’s like the attention the First lady gets; we are in bad shape if that is the standard we are shooting for. They are both very successful in their own ways, but physical appearance from the neck down isn’t one of them.
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First lady has a really weird face. Just sayin.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
So many fat chicks on my fb feed post shit like oh I’m just like Beyonce with my curves, naw ya aint ya whale.[/quote]
Beyonce is a big girl curves or not. It’s like the attention the First lady gets; we are in bad shape if that is the standard we are shooting for. They are both very successful in their own ways, but physical appearance from the neck down isn’t one of them.
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First lady has a really weird face. Just sayin.[/quote]
I don’t disagree