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[quote]Elaikases wrote:
you become what you do – I really believe that. I see 70 year olds who are strong and physically active and mentally sharp and then I see people at 40 who are completely de-conditioned and ready to die.[/quote]

Well this is true. And here’s the thing, my friend. I believe you’d have to really bust your butt to actually “overtrain.” Yup, there you have it. I’ve “overtrained” (in the classic, systemic sense) once in 27 years. And since I tend to train my tail off you’d think I’d flirt with this affliction far more often than that. Especially being somewhat of a lean (Read as: hardgainer) female.

But I don’t. Why? Because I’ve learned to give myself enough time, dietary support and sleep to adjust to and accommodate what I do. This works. And it would work for a LOT of people if they’d stop putting limitations on what they do and just go out and push their limits a little. Then sit back and wait for their body to catch up. Then push again. Then wait. Then … well, you get my drift.

If I’m feeling a little tired or beat up then I take a day off. Or maybe I’ll just do some simple cardio or go for a hike. It’s really no big deal.

Cappy

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[quote]Capacity wrote:

Well this is true. And here’s the thing, my friend. I believe you’d have to really bust your butt to actually “overtrain.” Yup, there you have it. I’ve “overtrained” (in the classic, systemic sense) once in 27 years. And since I tend to train my tail off you’d think I’d flirt with this affliction far more often than that. Especially being somewhat of a lean (Read as: hardgainer) female.

Cappy

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Interseting observations Cappy

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[quote]Capacity wrote:

Well this is true. And here’s the thing, my friend. I believe you’d have to really bust your butt to actually “overtrain.” Yup, there you have it. I’ve “overtrained” (in the classic, systemic sense) once in 27 years. And since I tend to train my tail off you’d think I’d flirt with this affliction far more often than that. Especially being somewhat of a lean (Read as: hardgainer) female.

But I don’t. Why? Because I’ve learned to give myself enough time, dietary support and sleep to adjust to and accommodate what I do. This works. And it would work for a LOT of people if they’d stop putting limitations on what they do and just go out and push their limits a little. Then sit back and wait for their body to catch up. Then push again. Then wait. Then … well, you get my drift.

If I’m feeling a little tired or beat up then I take a day off. Or maybe I’ll just do some simple cardio or go for a hike. It’s really no big deal.

Cappy

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100% agreement. I think it is very hard for someone to overtrain.

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But I don’t. Why? Because I’ve learned to give myself enough time, dietary support and sleep to adjust to and accommodate what I do. This works. And it would work for a LOT of people if they’d stop putting limitations on what they do and just go out and push their limits a little. Then sit back and wait for their body to catch up. Then push again. Then wait. Then … well, you get my drift.

The key is to listen to your body. I had a period in there where I would just flog myself way too hard, then I’d be sick for the next four or five days (we had an open mat Saturday, and I’d be there for the whole thing).

On the other hand, when I was younger, a full couple hours karate, then judo, then sparring full blast and it just made me live better.

But yes, most people don’t push themselves enough, and when they do, they just don’t listen to their body. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve been learning to do both.

Especially at the end. Though I should have started the rotator cuff rehab sooner both times rather than doing the stupid guy thing and waiting for them to get better on their own.

But, finishing a work out and making myself run up the stairs at the end rather than take the elevator or walk up the stairs.

The last push is always the best one.

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OK, so I guess I’ll post the MT & BJJ both here and at the Combat Sports Forum. (In the Hub thread) It was mentioned that a few folks like reading what the women are doing in their MA training. I’ll also post it here (for now) because I consider it part and parcel of my “training” program and this is where I’m keeping my primary training “log.”

Muay Thai:

Drills. Can’t remember the last time the whole class was pad work and drills. Worked on different stances (crouched and upright) and the effect each has on kicks, punches, movement and judging distance. Seems most favored one stance over another for now. I don’t have a problem working from either. Nice to have something that comes naturally … for a change!

Lifting: Superset seated DB curls witih French presses. Then incline curls with overhead (rope) cable extensions. Pumped guns! Then legs: Extensions, leg presses, Smith lunges, curls, calves. Abs, stretch … outta there!

Nice grilled smoked ham steak from our own piggy for dinner. Yum!

Cappy

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[quote]Capacity wrote:

Nice grilled smoked ham steak from our own piggy for dinner. Yum!

Cappy

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That makes me sssssoooooo jealous! I wish I had the time to get that kind of intense workout as well

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[quote]j_willy3 wrote:
I wish I had the time to get that kind of intense workout as well[/quote]

Took maybe all of 40 minutes, start to finish. About half way through I heard one guy tell his buddy that he’d been there an hour and 1/4 already. He was still there when I left. Yikes!

Cappy

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Whoa. Sore. Wasn’t shooting for that yesterday. Got it anyway. Kinda made today’s BJJ interesting tho. :wink:

BJJ:

Started at one end of the mats, shrimped to the other end. Ran back to start position and hit it again. Did this for about 20 minutes, all different kinds of ways. The school is in a warehouse. You do the math.

Then we worked on some shit. OK, so I wish I was astute enough to tell you what it was, but I can’t. I did ask if there was a specific name for what we were doing. Not really. Told him he needed to make up a name … Bravo style. Ha, ha. Basically, we were countering a guard pass and finishing with an elbow lock. Anyhow, we worked on that and a few variations of it for the rest of the class.

Later:
Elliptical intervals. 20 min.

Cappy

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Wed, Oct 29

MT:
More work on stances. Kicks, switch kick and teeps from both.

BJJ:
Worked on breaking past closed guard, several variations. Worked on some base building stuff. Basically, face off with your partner and try to knock them off their base. Fun stuff. Then worked on side control with a transition into an arm bar. My partner is 5’ tall and weighs about 102. Her entire arm is as long as mine is from wrist to elbow. It’s kinda weird. Had to give it a whirl with someone else to really get the gist of it.

Lifting screwed the pooch … the builders were here again today for several hours. If I’m lucky I’ll get to do an incline powerwalk shortly. I wouldn’t place bets on it though.

Friggin cold here. Might get flurries tonight. Yuck.

Cappy

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REALLY frigging cold today. Ice on the horse tank. Sheesh.

Lift:
Warm-up: Jump rope 10 min.
Chest: Warm up with incline DB press, dip.
Shoulders: DB OHP, rear lat raises superset with upright rows, incline shrugs.
Back: CG pulldowns, seated WG row.
Abs: Cable crunches, reverse crunches on incline bench.

Stretch: 15 min.

That’s all she wrote!

Cappy

PS: Note to self: If I’m going to train at the commercial gym then try to get your butt there before all the HS boys arrive. Got sick and tired of watching (and listening to) various groups of 3-4 boys “train.” What a bunch of girls. What a waste of time.

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[quote]Capacity wrote:

PS: Note to self: If I’m going to train at the commercial gym then try to get your butt there before all the HS boys arrive. Got sick and tired of watching (and listening to) various groups of 3-4 boys “train.” What a bunch of girls. What a waste of time.[/quote]

Yeah, the kids can be like that.

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[quote]Capacity wrote:

PS: Note to self: If I’m going to train at the commercial gym then try to get your butt there before all the HS boys arrive. Got sick and tired of watching (and listening to) various groups of 3-4 boys “train.” What a bunch of girls. What a waste of time.[/quote]

hahaha Yet another reason for me to train at 5am. We had frost 2 days here. That is almost as traumatic as the horse water freezing up there!

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Hey, maybe they’re just talking about the “older lady” working out.

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[quote]hel320 wrote:
Hey, maybe they’re just talking about the “older lady” working out.[/quote]

I dunno. After watching the 40-something, train an hour and a quarter (plus) asshat show these kids a really, REALLY bad clean and press and explain that it’s called …well, he didn’t know exactly what the hell to call it … I was nearly cross-eyed.

I had to walk by this group of girls to put my DBs back in the rack so in passing I casually mentioned that the abomination the asshat had just shown them was called a clean and press. They giggled (I kid you not), then went right back to doing the bastardized version they were doing.

So much for the old coot having any influence.

Oh and a little bit later in this saga I had to ask the 40-something, train an hour and (who knows how much by now) to hand me the 65# DBs so I could do incline shrugs. OK, well this was an experience in and of itself.

Since I don’t really know the twit I explain EXACLTY what I need. He then proceeds to screw up the pass, so I have to re-explain it. Twice. How hard is it to pass someone a DB?

I finally get the proper handoff and do my set. As previously explained, I only needed a handoff, not a finish. I get done, rerack and this moron basically yells across the gym, (Yeah, yells.

Take the ear buds out of your ears ya jerk) “Is that IT? You aren’t going to stop there, are you?” Um, yeah. While you were performing your 12th set of tricep pushdowns I was doing two sets before I even asked for your help.

I (patiently) explain that I’ll start with 65 next time and move up from there. He seemed pleased with this revelation and left me alone. Thank God.

It can’t get much worse, right?

HA!

Cappy

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Sat Nov. 1

BJJ:

Been working on side mount, so today we worked on four different side mount escapes. I like the way this guy teaches; very organized and he follows a logical progression as opposed to the “Today we’re going to do this!” approach. (And “this” has nothing to do with anything you’ve previously learned.) Here, the classes have a bit more emphasis on technique (for the rookies) and a little less on free rolling. The morning class is always followed by open gym, so you can do all the rolling you want. It’s not like you get shortchanged in that department. I guess what I’m saying is that they don’t sacrifice drills and technique for rolling time, which as a rookie I appreciate.

Cappy

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[quote]Capacity wrote:
hel320 wrote:
While you were performing your 12th set of tricep pushdowns I was doing two sets before I even asked for your help.

I (patiently) explain that I’ll start with 65 next time and move up from there. He seemed pleased with this revelation and left me alone. Thank God.

It can’t get much worse, right?

HA!

Cappy

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This must have been Asshat week! I had one at 5:30 a.m. yesterday in the midst of my dumbell presses. Seems he didnt like the thud when i dropped them from 2 inches above the floor. Must be the weather change.

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[quote]j_willy3 wrote:
This must have been Asshat week! I had one at 5:30 a.m. yesterday in the midst of my dumbell presses. Seems he didnt like the thud when i dropped them from 2 inches above the floor. Must be the weather change.[/quote]

See … you need some of that menopausal attitude, Willy. That’s when you smile politely and tell him the library is two blocks down on the left.

Moron.

Cappy

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Cappy

you are kicking ass!
It sounds like you have a good BJJ teacher.

Structure and drills are important…
Is this Gi or No Gi…
which is like the hugest debate in the
combat forum.

keep kicking ass!
kmc

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[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
Cappy

you are kicking ass!
It sounds like you have a good BJJ teacher.

Structure and drills are important…
Is this Gi or No Gi…
which is like the hugest debate in the
combat forum.

keep kicking ass!
kmc[/quote]

If you follow high level trainers, like Rhadi Ferguson and others, they train their no-gi competitors about 95% of the time using gis.

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this will be the last hijack…

I am a HUGE believer in the gi.
and you need to do it in the beginning.
there is an excellent thread about it in the combat forum…

keep at it Cappy
kmc