I’ve never seen it, I’m aware of it and know how it ends (spoiler alert: it sinks) but it sounds like she had daddy issues.
Women went from wanting equality under the law to wanting to be able to act like men, without it reflecting poorly on them. So they decided to adopt all of the vulgar and boorish qualities and behaviors that get associated with men. These are the very same things they complained about when it comes to men. Somehow it made sense in their minds to choose the worst in men to make themselves equal to men. Of course they were surprised to find out that men really don’t like women who behave like men. What they didn’t realize is that those poor behaviors they chose to adopt in the name of equality were things that men really don’t admire in other men. Women took a step down to reach equality.
Then again, you have a lot of boys and men who are trying to be girls and women these days so I guess what I’m trying to say is, we’re screwed.
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Parents have given up but I don’t know if I trust the government to fill that role.
That is some heavyweight question. Most philosophical books and whole academic careers have been constructed around far less weighty issues.
We have to start with culture, society and peoples. Whoever thinks that right now it’s going great, like so many posters here, needs not read further on.
Others, among them yours truly, will point out the ease of seeing, touching, even smelling our steep decline. So it’s that old debate. Civilisations fall like clockwork under the derisive comments of losers (soon to perish) and liars (soon to profit from perishing losers).
Maybe the key phenomenon of crumbling societies are crumbling morals. Women are the bottleneck of reproduction and thus always objects of careful scrutiny. Usually they police themselves well enough. If they’ve become sluts, Rome is already burning. But let me repeat myself, sluttiness is not the cause of all this. That means we shouldn’t focus overly on “the women” but it also means that to change slut-driving moral paradigms, other problems have to be addressed firmly.
Which leads us to
I’d name those who brush off moral questions with “middle eastern panic” as losers who don’t matter in the long run. If we keep on doing nothing, those “middle easterners” will slowly and steadily replace us with their crude but somewhat effective policies (Besides, the sex industry has usually been a middle eastern (granted, of a different branch) business which makes the argument kinda pointless).
And if those “middle easterners” aka muslims get the same sick ideas and elites, they will be replaced by someone else who, either by chance or method, came up with at least a minimal set of rules required for a somewhat stable society.
Morals are for everybody. They are innate. Even the losers have them but their moral compass has been corrupted, so they vote quite vehemently for self-defeating ideas.
At this point we have to address the two (biggest) elephants in the room. Both are hurdles in handling moral questions.
The primacy of unchecked capitalism has done much harm. Morality is a tough subject, but with so many people living pseudo-vigorous lives of partying paycheck to paycheck while focusing on material happiness, the mere mention causes eyebrows to raise. This is a relatively recent phenomenon.
Next comes the increasingly multicultural society with scores of ethnic strangers being stuffed into every neighbourhood. At this point, even liberals all admit (in hushed voices) that race is a thing just like culture. That’s a complication that will not only not go away but grow in numbers. Prepare for chaos.
It may seem as if the initial question has not been given an answer. However, it’s clear that answering pressing questions of morality require a thorough examination of society and all its components. In other words, we have to categorically rephrase and even rebrand. Facile sermons cannot work (which is why the church is of no help). You have to be able to address your own crowd and give an accounting others are willing to follow.
Whichever groups re-emerge will do so with renewed energies. The first western country getting its shit together will be utterly and effortlessly dominant.
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I don’t understand what you’re getting at with this statement. I can read positive and negative associations with both – and it seems like you’re going for the negative side – but I’m not sure which those ares.
Every thing is a thing. It’s very profound.
Hey Emily, I saw your post and forgot to ever reply. I don’t often think of myself as lovely, haha, but I’ll take the compliment. I don’t know what else to say besides “Thanks!” but I mean that sincerely. Obviously I don’t actually know you, but I’ve always enjoyed interacting with you online, and often get something out of reading your posts. Plus, I think you and my mom share a name, and she’s pretty great, so it probably means you’re pretty great as well.
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I know I’ve done this to you more than once, and I would imagine it’s awkward for you, but you’re someone we all know here on the TNation boards, so when I want to point out that there are plenty of counter examples of good, devoted young men, you unfortunately are it. I can say all day long that my three sons, while not perfect, are hard-working and devoted to the same things posters here value (though not the suppression of women, lol). I can note until I’m blue in the face that I work every week with men and women in their 20’s who are earnest and decent. But you’re what I have for a concrete, present example.
I can imagine that your mom is wonderful. I wish we could be friends! (But does she even lift? 
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I used to think the same exact way. I’ve never gotten married, had some relationships and definitely didn’t have children. Looking back, it was the best decision for me and still is. With the decline of the nuclear family, it’s not something I wanted to put myself through with risk of divorce. If you really want a child, adopt.
I wouldn’t worry about it to much tbh, unfortunately we live in a world of scams, cons, and cheats. I personally would suggest going to a gym to look for guys. Not being cliche… but it takes patience to build muscle, and if the guy has patience for that, he’ll be understanding enough for you.
I wonder if these two are related somehow…
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No way man. As much as I love butting heads with you, you ain’t going anywhere!
Need more Andrewgen! Need more Andrewgen!
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Getting back to the topic of why women cant find a man.
I am 38 almost, still no kids, I live with my partner. It took me awhile as a man to find a woman that worths it. I ve dated a lot after 28 trying to find a girl that is a wife material. I engaged twice, first time obviously a mistake. Now we live together.
The frustration comes out of that woman cant commit or they are too serious and high standard. I waited my current fiance for 2 years to move and live with me. I had to give her an ultimatum to make her decide. Bare in mind I am educated, have a high paying job, have 2 apartments and now a brand new car. I am also a decently looking man.
I ve met the other girls as well. That are too high standard. They are not offering much, but they want you to be way better.
There is another problem. With the easy access to sex, there is not much a woman can offer a man. Most women dont want do chores, arent organized, are careerists but dont earn much, are bad at fucking. Actually while I am writting this it goes the same for men, but we are discussing the female perspective here.
So my advice to women struggling to find a partner is to get back to the basics. Get in touch with your feminine side and be ready to be a woman. That is housekeeping, taking care of the children and making your home a calm and pleasant place. Men will notice you are ready for a family.
Interesting that looks, loyalty, and respecting boundaries never made it onto your list. Those are the bare minimum. In that order.
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Never said it was a perfect plan…
They’d be better off going to Home Depot and looking for dudes without rings, then asking for help with some random thing they don’t need to do.
The only men in home depot are contractors (good money) and men with houses/building projects (they have their shit together).
I’ve suggested this to a coworker in her early 40’s who “struggles” to find a man. She laughed in my face at the idea of dating a contractor (who average low 6-figures) because they don’t need degrees.
I stopped listening to her nonsense afterwards.
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I’ve run into a solid hand full of women that I swear were doing this. Like, they struck up conversation about bug spray, weed & feed, hand tools, and various other subjects and objects.
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Well with standards that high, they need to be single tbh
I saw the decline of my own family growing up. My mother changed radically when she became a housewife and not a teacher. From what my father told me, she was tired of teaching and wanted a family. He served in World War 2 and more than likely suffered from PTSD. I know it affected their relationship because they slept in separate rooms for years leading up to their passing. I saw a lot of my friends in my youth be the subject of custody battles and become a single parent family. That was something I vowed never was going to happen to me. When I did date and experience shall we say very selfish and centered behavior by my girlfriends, I realized that I would basically sacrifice my life and interests (martial arts, hunting, fishing, etc.) for their own benefit. All that with the risk of losing everything. Sorry, not sorry. So yeah, I didn’t go that route.
Isn’t suggesting a single woman to adopt incongruent with what you have noticed? @22MAC