The difference is these behaviors are cultivated and accepted. I believe a big reason is that parents and adults in general decided they wanted to be their children’s best friends; they wanted to be the “cool” adult. In other words, they didn’t want to be adults. It’s why you have these young people using terms like “adulting” to refer to having to pay bills or scheduling their own dental appointments, as if those things are really what defines being an adult.
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This is a good take. It put into words something I have seen and felt for a while.
Yesterday I spent the afternoon with the in-laws and their in-laws.
Later in the evening I took turns getting fussed at by my woman and baby.
After that I fell asleep on the couch.
Maybe you’re on to something.
Most women don’t use tinder. Most women don’t use online dating apps. This skews male perceptions of womens standards. Most women and men online are simply looking to fuck. Offline dating and online dating on non hookup platforms is far simpler and not fraught with this bullshit.
My woman is gorgeous, in a well paying job, from a well off family. I am broke as shit and 2 inches plus shorter than her and fat as fuck. She fell for me becuase im funny and interesting. She was being actively pursued by a doctor whose about 7 inches taller than me and far wealthier.
The problem with the redpill bullshit becoming widespread is its just completely brainrotted men to think they need to be a chad to get top tier pussy. Its not true. You need to be funny and be able to hold a conversation. Thats literally it. Its a piece of piss. Women are nowhere near as picky as guys when it comes to long term dating. They want to be made to feel special and they want a guy who makes them laugh. That is it.
In the UK there was a whole generation of girls who had a crush on peter kay because he was funny. google peter kay, he looks like an obese monster. Hes about 5 foot 6 lol.
You are?
It’s nice to have peaceful evenings where I can do whatever I want, but it’s better to be busy doing something important rather than self-indulgent. I still carve out time for volunteer work, but it’s not the same as raising kids.
I’ve been raising my stepson since he was 5 and he’s almost 23, so I’ve had plenty of days just like that too (substitute small child for baby). You’ll miss them when they are over, even as you enjoy your newfound windfall of free time.
You also get to march into the new world of helping your adult child deal with adult problems, which puts all of those early problems into better perspective.
I’m only 43, I’m on the fence about whether or not I’ve got more child-rearing in me. With the right gal, yes. I’d sign up for it for another 20 years.
I remarried at 43. My son was about to be a senior in high school. She had 4, the youngest of which had just turned three. The 3 younger boys are all on the spectrum, and I thought long and hard about whether I was the right person to father them. I wouldn’t trade any of it for anything.
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Then that’s good for you, seriously. However I don’t think this is common for women like your wife. Sure, there are high-skilled professional women, actually many women, who do not care about muscles, literally don’t care. However the chance of some poor guy entering the family of a woman of the upper-crust of society very low, no matter how funny and interesting he is.
Such also will not work for many women with specific expectations who are not easily charmed or stupid. There are actually hypergamous women who want a specific pedigree in a man and a man who doesn’t have it will be quickly rejected or not spoken to. And no, I’m not doing red-pill talk, as I don’t think men have to be extraordinary to get women (I myself am an example of that).
I went to high school with seventeen-year old women who wanted young men with cars our teachers couldn’t afford, meaning they wanted young non-working teenaged men from rich families.
My own second cousin, when single, would not go on a date with a man who was not only not rich, but didn’t have a high-skilled profession. So that means even a successful business owner was out of the question. And so were middle class men, no matter how funny or interesting. I specifically remember, in the 90s, her saying, “I will only go out with a doctor or lawyer.”
My first cousin is an Amazon executive and formerly was one at Viacom/MTV. Her husband is a film director. Her dad, my uncle, is an engineer and owner of a glass business. His dad is a movie big wig. Some funny, interesting, unemployed “fat f—“ (your words, not mine) working his way into her life would be unthinkable. Actually a guy of my socioeconomic status wouldn’t stand a chance either, even if I were funny and interesting.
My first crush’s first words do me after working up the nerve to ask her out was, “You’re not Greek.” Before asking her out, she said she thought I was attractive. So I thought, “Yeah bro, this gonna be like the movies. Shy, scared boy is gonna work up the courage and she gonna say yes. Haha! We gonna hug and kiss right there.” She obviously was serious considering she married a Greek man. Maybe he was funny, maybe he wasn’t.
This goes for millions of women of certain positions and family backgrounds. It also has nothing to with the red pill. It’s good that you got your woman, but I think you don’t take other serious things into consideration besides having a good personality or being interesting. We even have two women in this thread who stated their expectations and one of them succeeded in having a man who met them, finances included. @EmilyQ @anna_5588
Although what I say doesn’t apply in all cases, I think a sure fire way for middle-class me to be single, childless, and miserable would’ve been for me to have aimed for women of higher socioeconomic status.
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That’s provided he’s being honest too
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Do it. All the happiest people i know are the ones with the most kids, even if theyre poor because of how many theyve had.
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I’m sure their kids feel the same way about being poor.
Nobody cares about the feelings of non-existant entities (seriously, wtf).
And almost nobody in America is poor. Certainly not the kids.
Women are crazier than ever today, certainly. But for the average man it’s also easier than ever to find a partner, whether he’s looking for meat or marriage potential.
On a societal level, the problem of spoiled women will fix itself in a few generations. Ironically, the result will be more dumb, religious sluts.
Come down off your throne and you might see how other people live.
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Reality is something you have yet to master.
Although polling has flaws, why do polls show that the majority of young men are womanless if it’s so easy?
What conditions today are making getting married easier than ever?
I’m not sure how your post relates to what I wrote, specifically that many women—and their families—have stipulations they won’t bend and being funny and interesting won’t transcend them.
Many anti-social women will not have children, either because they don’t want them or they waste their most fertile years playing stupid games. So some issues will be self correcting.
Slutty behavior only exists to the degree men and older women allow it.
Some women just like fucking downward because they’re mad at their daddy.
Piss her off and she’ll tell you how she really feels.