[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
Im sorry that you think terrorist tactics will work.
Sigh.
I give an analogy of what I said: “if you deadlift 1000 lbs you’ll break your back”. You interpreted that as “don’t pull 1000 lbs or I’ll break your back”.
The article indeed quotes a kid threatening violence in the terrorist sense of it. I don’t endorse his views, but I know first hand how much the French get pissed when you mess with their liberties.
AND YES THREATENING VIOLENCE IF YOU DON’T GET YOUR WAY IS CHILDISH AND TERRORIST LIKE.
I don’t know about childish but it definitely is an act of terror. If you don’t mind me saying, your commandier-in-chief is sure a big fan of those “childish” tactics.[/quote]
First off what im reading is an act of terrorism.
And second thanks for agreeing with me that that kid was using terrorist tactics.
Third, whats childish about defending the country? whats childish about overthrowing a dictator?
Tony Essono, 32, an unemployed economist whose parents emigrated from Cameroon before he was born, said that despite years of anger and discrimination, people in La Courneuve were willing to put their faith in the ballot box “because they understand they can change something” by voting. But, he added, “if Sarkozy is elected, it means we haven’t been heard, and we’ll trash everything.”
So I believe in the value and virtue of democracy - letting the people get their say - but if I don’t get the outcome I like at the ballot box, I will engage on violence, mayhem, and destruction.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
So I believe in the value and virtue of democracy - letting the people get their say - but if I don’t get the outcome I like at the ballot box, I will engage on violence, mayhem, and destruction.
Now I get the Left! Great people, the Left.[/quote]
Come on…this is not the way the majority of leftist thinkers behave. I though we refrred to these people as “extremists”.
Come on…this is not the way the majority of leftist thinkers behave. I though we refrred to these people as “extremists”.[/quote]
Wrong - the Left acts as an accomplice by accommodating this kind of behavior under the rubric of “it’s not their fault”. The Left always allows for a justification of it, even if they aren’t the ones setting things on fire or murdering nuns.
Can you help me understand what caused this little intifada in your (supposed) neck of the woods? Perhaps the bus had a “BUSH/CHENEY” sticker on it or something? Or worse, the driver was eating a ham sandwich?!?!
Sounds like the Swedes are getting a taste of what it’s like in Paris.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Wrong - the Left acts as an accomplice by accommodating this kind of behavior under the rubric of “it’s not their fault”. The Left always allows for a justification of it, even if they aren’t the ones setting things on fire or murdering nuns.[/quote]
You are confusing the Left with the extreme Left. No Leftist would ever condone the speech you quoted.
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
Third, whats childish about defending the country? whats childish about overthrowing a dictator?
I meant Bush threatening to nuke the hell out of Iran. That’s terrorism in my book!
I also think calling other counties “axis of evil” is as childish as it gets.[/quote]
Really, Threaten to nuke a country that says they will destroy us and is trying to develope nukes. ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID ITS CALLED SELF DEFENCE.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Really, Threaten to nuke a country that says they will destroy us and is trying to develope nukes. ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID ITS CALLED SELF DEFENCE.[/quote]
First of all, please stop capitalizing your posts. It makes you look really bad. Secondly, Iran has the right under the NPT to civil nuclear energy and has publically issued a fatwa against military nuclear power. Bear in mind that, a fatwa is something pretty sacred in Iran. Thirdly, when has Iran threatened to destroy you? As far as I know, that would be suicidal even with the help of every country that’s antagonistic to the US. Last but not least, “self-defence” (sic) isn’t something you can call when all you have are suppositions. Remember Iraq?
Now, to get back to the topic, it’s finally official: Sarkozy won by a clear majority at 53.1%.
[quote]lixy wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Everything single policy initiative mentioned in the above paragraph can raise prices in the economy. Employers will pass along the raised wages. As such, while trying to boost demand - which it should be noted that they already see low demand as a problem to be remedied - when prices go up, it tends to cool demand.
Who exactly sees low demand as a problem? The people perfectly happy with what they have? Or the corporations that need to maximize their profits so a handful can buy yet-another jetplane? Last I checked, there was plenty of demand for qualified artisans.
Third, France’s economic situation admittedly needs repair. The socialist choices of the past created the problem they have now - why would anything think that doing more of the same can cure the socialist malaise?
Nonsense! Things cannot think.
Seriously, when was the last time a leftist or socialist president been at the Elys?e? Your knowledge of the political, economical and social situation in France is mediocre.[/quote]
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
Really, Threaten to nuke a country that says they will destroy us and is trying to develope nukes. ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID ITS CALLED SELF DEFENCE.
First of all, please stop capitalizing your posts. It makes you look really bad. Secondly, Iran has the right under the NPT to civil nuclear energy and has publically issued a fatwa against military nuclear power. Bear in mind that, a fatwa is something pretty sacred in Iran. [/quote]
Now we can rest easy; a fat-something-or-other will protect us. No worries anymore about nukes!
But why is it ‘fat’? How about a skinnywa or, even better, a rippedwa?
These are all legitimate questions and, under Sharee’s Law (she works at a bar near my house), you MUST answer them!!
The ships are all now heading for Marseilles, to return all Muslims to their native lands, where they can more easily protest government actions they don’t like, or elections they consider ‘flawed’.
Come on…this is not the way the majority of leftist thinkers behave. I though we refrred to these people as “extremists”.
Wrong - the Left acts as an accomplice by accommodating this kind of behavior under the rubric of “it’s not their fault”. The Left always allows for a justification of it, even if they aren’t the ones setting things on fire or murdering nuns.[/quote]
And the right accommodates the guys who want to have a collection of Ak-47’s. They accommodate the idiots who blow the crap out of abortion clinics, the assholes who beat gays, the jerks who protest gay marriage vehemently even though it has nothing to do with them.
Both extremists have reasons. Agree or disagree, they’re there. That doesn’t mean those reasons are right.
I do not “accommodate” any of these ridiculous riots. I see some of their points, yes, but that does not mean I condone the violence.
Acknowledging someones reasoning is not condoning the actions they take based on that reasoning.
