Royal has done nothing but copy the points on which Sarkozy campaigned. And since when did I give her any credibility?[/quote]
Hmm. Lixy attempting to weasel.
Lixy asked: who cares about low demand (as in, it doesn’t matter)?
I said: the left-wing candidate, she sais so herself.
Lixy said: I don’t agree with her 100%
I answered the question you asked: who exactly sees low demand as a problem? Answer: actually, both candidates.
No, no, no - we weren’t discussing opinions on the matter.
I attacked the premise of the left-wing candidate’s economic package. You said “who cares about low demand”?, as if I were addressing something that didn’t matter.
Nice try.
Red herring - what kind of system does France have currently, regardless of who has presided over it?
Lixy has yet to come with ANY arguments of his own… he posts a blogpost and then goes “well, I don’t agree with everything the writer says” when the blogpost gets shot down…[/quote]
Yes, this has become quite entertaining.
Lixy is scrambling to find the page in his left-wing to playbook to see what his next non-answer should be.
Lixy has yet to come with ANY arguments of his own… he posts a blogpost and then goes “well, I don’t agree with everything the writer says” when the blogpost gets shot down…
Yes, this has become quite entertaining.
What a simple way to avoid a serious debate…
Lixy is scrambling to find the page in his left-wing to playbook to see what his next non-answer should be.[/quote]
He’s become the new “Al Shades”. Although Al did post about training now and then.
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
And your not helping your case by saying these people will RIOT if this guy gets elected, hmmm threating violence if you don’t get your way, sounds alot like TERRORISM. No you did not say this but the article you put up sure as hell did.
You are confusing educated prognosis with terorist threat. One takes into consideration the cascading events and deteriorating climate that will ultimately lead to riots while the other says “if I don’t get my way, I’ll make you suffer for it!”.[/quote]
?If it?s Sarkozy on May 6th, it will be war?(1), a youth from the suburbs is quoted as saying"
This is from what you posted. HE SAID WAR IF HE’S ELECTED. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THATS A TERRORIST TACTIC? OR ARE YOU THAT STUPID TO NOT SEE TERRORISM WHEN ITS STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE.
[quote]pat36 wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
However, there is no fucking way Europeans could have known about the WMD situation in Iraq any better than anybody else with out a quality espionage network informing them.
I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that one.
Newsweek? Aren’t the they ones who admittedly, falsely reported that they were flushing Korans at Gitmo resulting in the attack of American soldiers in Afghanistan. And please don’t ever bother using Hillary’s self aggrandizing organization as a reference to anything. No, you didn’t know, you still don’t and you couldn’t have. You may have thought the WMD was bullshit.
You may have even felt strongly about it, but you couldn’t known. I have been to Europe many times. I even lived there for a spell. I know the difference between American and European media.
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I knew. I knew. I knew. I claimed I knew with as much right as Bush the liar claimed he knew.
The only difference is history has prooved me right and him wrong. That makes me a smart guy and him a liar.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
I said: the left-wing candidate, she sais so herself.
Lixy said: I don’t agree with her 100%[/quote]
What’s left-wing gotta do with it? Where did I EVER say that I agree with her. I unambiguously concured when etaco said that she couldn’t run a newspaper stand. Do you interpret that as me being on her side?
You have a drastically selective reading.
None of which I agree with. It just happens that I knock harder on the fascist.
Like I said, Royal just echoes whatever Sarkozy says.
[quote]John S. wrote:
lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
And your not helping your case by saying these people will RIOT if this guy gets elected, hmmm threating violence if you don’t get your way, sounds alot like TERRORISM. No you did not say this but the article you put up sure as hell did.
You are confusing educated prognosis with terorist threat. One takes into consideration the cascading events and deteriorating climate that will ultimately lead to riots while the other says “if I don’t get my way, I’ll make you suffer for it!”.
?If it?s Sarkozy on May 6th, it will be war?(1), a youth from the suburbs is quoted as saying"
This is from what you posted. HE SAID WAR IF HE’S ELECTED. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THATS A TERRORIST TACTIC? OR ARE YOU THAT STUPID TO NOT SEE TERRORISM WHEN ITS STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE.[/quote]
You’re not really paying attention, now are you? What some punk in the streets says is different from my point even if both come with the same conclusion.
You accused me of “not helping [my] case by saying these people will RIOT if this guy gets elected”. I replied that the author’s point goes further than just threatening violence. Yes, he quoted a kid in the suburbs but he also had arguments that stood on their own and had nothing to do with threats.
I hope you can appreciate the difference between quoting someone who quoted someone whose speech can be interpreted as terroristic and using one’s head to forecast the rapid deterioration France’s suburbs will undergo if Sarkozy gets elected. The situation has always been explosive. Sarkozy oppressing them will ensure it blows up. We’ll get to see in a few days…
The press in countries like Norway, Sweden and Denmark has more than 70% leftist journalists. Take this into account when interpreting most stories.
Demonizing yet another “I want Israel to exist as a nation”-person… how “new” of you lixy… don’t quit your dayjob, ok?
Gee, if I didn’t know how much you hated that tactic, I would have sworn you were attacking the messenger instead of the message.
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So, when lixy states that supporting israel is a deadly sin… and i comment on this statement, I’m attacking the messenger? Yehaw… the blinding logic…
And ofcourse, commenting on the press in Skandinvia/Europe is such a brutal attack on lixy… especially when I haeven’t posted anything else at all in this thread…
[quote]lixy wrote:
ECONOMIC MISINFORMATION PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN FRENCH ELECTION
by Mark Weisbrot
April 27, 2007
It is important to understand that there is no economic logic to the argument that the citizens of any rich country need to reduce their living standards or government programs because of economic progress in developing countries. Once a developed country has reached a certain level of productivity, there is no economic reason for its residents to take a pay or benefit cut, or work more hours, because other countries are catching up to their level. That productivity, which is based on the country’s collective knowledge, skills, capital stock, and organization of the economy, is still there, and in fact it increases every year. To the extent that international competition is being used by special interests to push down the living standards of French or German or U.S. workers - and it is - it just means that the rules for international commerce are being written by the wrong people. It is a problem of limited democracy and lack of representation for the majority, not a problem that is inherent to economic progress.
The press in countries like Norway, Sweden and Denmark has more than 70% leftist journalists. Take this into account when interpreting most stories.
Demonizing yet another “I want Israel to exist as a nation”-person… how “new” of you lixy… don’t quit your dayjob, ok?
Gee, if I didn’t know how much you hated that tactic, I would have sworn you were attacking the messenger instead of the message.
So, when lixy states that supporting israel is a deadly sin… and i comment on this statement, I’m attacking the messenger? Yehaw… the blinding logic…
And ofcourse, commenting on the press in Skandinvia/Europe is such a brutal attack on lixy… especially when I haeven’t posted anything else at all in this thread…
Who cares if they riot? They’re scumbags then for using violence to protest an ELECTION. Throw their asses in jail and deport any non-citizens participating in that crap. If they start acting like terrorists, treat them like it.
Sarkozy proved the more mature candidate in the last debate between Royale and Sarkozy. Polls show that Sarkozy is the most likely winner, let us all hope for a rational election!
[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
And your not helping your case by saying these people will RIOT if this guy gets elected, hmmm threating violence if you don’t get your way, sounds alot like TERRORISM. No you did not say this but the article you put up sure as hell did.
You are confusing educated prognosis with terorist threat. One takes into consideration the cascading events and deteriorating climate that will ultimately lead to riots while the other says “if I don’t get my way, I’ll make you suffer for it!”.
?If it?s Sarkozy on May 6th, it will be war?(1), a youth from the suburbs is quoted as saying"
This is from what you posted. HE SAID WAR IF HE’S ELECTED. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THATS A TERRORIST TACTIC? OR ARE YOU THAT STUPID TO NOT SEE TERRORISM WHEN ITS STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE.
You’re not really paying attention, now are you? What some punk in the streets says is different from my point even if both come with the same conclusion.
You accused me of “not helping [my] case by saying these people will RIOT if this guy gets elected”. I replied that the author’s point goes further than just threatening violence. Yes, he quoted a kid in the suburbs but he also had arguments that stood on their own and had nothing to do with threats.
I hope you can appreciate the difference between quoting someone who quoted someone whose speech can be interpreted as terroristic and using one’s head to forecast the rapid deterioration France’s suburbs will undergo if Sarkozy gets elected. The situation has always been explosive. Sarkozy oppressing them will ensure it blows up. We’ll get to see in a few days…[/quote]
sorry for not responding to this sooner, email never notified me of update. Your artical is stating terrorist threats, if you can’t see that then maybe you need to re-read it. Im sorry that you think terrorist tactics will work. AND YES THREATENING VIOLENCE IF YOU DON’T GET YOUR WAY IS CHILDISH AND TERRORIST LIKE.
The rethoric is quite similar to the one the leftists in Denmark and Norway uses to protect the former “ungdomshuset” and the present “blitzhuset” in Norway. The youth itself uses phrases like “civil war” when they face getting thrown out of their occupied house.
Then leftists in the media go: “well, if we throw them out, there will be violence… is that wise?”. In reality, the second isn’t far from the first, they are closely related.
[quote]Adamsson wrote:
The rethoric is quite similar to the one the leftists in Denmark and Norway uses to protect the former “ungdomshuset” and the present “blitzhuset” in Norway. The youth itself uses phrases like “civil war” when they face getting thrown out of their occupied house.
Then leftists in the media go: “well, if we throw them out, there will be violence… is that wise?”. In reality, the second isn’t far from the first, they are closely related. [/quote]
Yes, good point - the Left routinely wants to give in to blackmail to avoid violence at any cost.
And those willing to use violence - in the current case, Islamic terrorists - use blackmial to play their left-wing sympathizers like a harp: “give them what they want so they won’t hurt us!”
[quote]John S. wrote:
Im sorry that you think terrorist tactics will work. [/quote]
Sigh.
I give an analogy of what I said: “if you deadlift 1000 lbs you’ll break your back”. You interpreted that as “don’t pull 1000 lbs or I’ll break your back”.
The article indeed quotes a kid threatening violence in the terrorist sense of it. I don’t endorse his views, but I know first hand how much the French get pissed when you mess with their liberties.
I don’t know about childish but it definitely is an act of terror. If you don’t mind me saying, your commandier-in-chief is sure a big fan of those “childish” tactics.
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
lixy wrote:
Run across yet another piece warning of the threat of a Sarkozy in power. Excerpt:
“I have yet to see a Sarkozy poster in Paris ? or even just a sticker with his name on it ? that has not been defaced within a few hours of being posted. The fear and resentment here in regard to Sarkozy, especially in working-class neighborhoods, is palpable. The French left credits the record highs in voter enrollment and turnout for the presidential election of April 22 to anti-Sarko sentiment. ?If it?s Sarkozy on May 6th, it will be war?(1), a youth from the suburbs is quoted as saying”
I’ve said it before and will say it again, if the guy gets to the Elys?e, last riots will look like a peaceful walk in the park on a quiet afternoon. Mark my words.
So, people shouldn’t vote for Sarkozy or those who have no respect for the republican process will riot in the streets and attempt to exert their will by force - and yet Sarkozy is the one who represents the danger?[/quote]
Let me jump in and answer for Lixy:
“It will be up to the French voters to remove any MOTIVATION for the riots, not the rioter’s fault. They were simply being persecuted, and acting in self defense…”
Yehaw… the blinding logic…