[quote]lixy wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
You fail to distinguish that there are qualitative differences in the countries that own or seek nuclear weapons. Western democracies? Makes more sense. Radical autocracies hell-bent on regional domination by force? Less sense.
Says the big bully hell-bent on world domination by force.
I dare you to present a single instance of Iran invading anybody in recent memory.[/quote]
Abu Musa which is part of the United Arab Emirates is occopied by Iranian troops. Kurdistan. Then there is Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq.
Well, I just echoed the official discourse of the Iranian leadership.
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Interesting that when I pointed out their plan several months ago, you dismissed it as bogus. Now it is “the official discourse of the Iranian leadership.” So, which is it?
If they strike out at our cities, we will strike back as well, so knock yourselves out.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Iran is not the Soviet Union or China. The leadership in those nations realized that attacking a nation as powerful as the USA was suicide.
The Iranians don’t care. They worship death, which they openly state. They think they are doing Allah’s will.
This is why Iran must not have these weapons. Ann Coulter is correct: carpet bomb the place to where they can’t even build a transistor radio. Kill or be killed.
Our time is running out.[/quote]
There are many things wrong with this post. The most obvious is that Headhunter is totally oblivious to what Iranians want or don’t want. Last I checked they were all human beings. I don’t no anyone, human beings mind you, that want to die because they “worship death”. Why post when you don’t know what you’re talking about?
No, what’s most disturbing is that Headhunter is a teacher.
For being such a Bible-thumper, it sure is disgusting to see you advocate mass murder.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Two pre emptive strikes and soldier presence for 6 continuous years,
What wars are you talking about here? Afghanistan was a pre-emptive strike? I don’t think so.[/quote]
Yes, Afghanistan was a pre emptive strike. If you think otherwise, you’re wrong. That’s a fact.
[quote]Gkahn wrote:
I wonder why the AK-47 is the machine gun of choice among terrorists, militias and rebel factions. Why wouldn’t the US sell US made weapons if we are the biggest arms supplier? How does that work, we are the biggest arms supplier and we supply Russian made machine guns? Wouldn’t that make Russia the largest weapons supplier? [/quote]
What? That didn’t even make sense. Try again.
[quote]Gkahn wrote:
Iran does not have to invade anyone. It supplies money and weapons to terrorist groups who do Iran’s bidding for them. This is how they insert influence on other countries. [/quote]
Got proof of that?
I won’t hold my breath, because there isn’t proof. Of course, that’s what the right wing and the rest of your ilk rely on, theories and assumptions. Facts seem to be a real thorn in the side for you guys because they usually destroy your delusional ignorant rambles.
Inner Hulk:
“Yes, Afghanistan was a pre emptive strike. If you think otherwise, you’re wrong. That’s a fact.”
Gkhan:
Care to explain this one.
Inner Hulk:
“What? That didn’t even make sense. Try again.”
Gkhan:
If the US is the #1 weapons dealer in the world, why do all the terrorists arm themselves with Russian made hardware?
Explain that one.
Gkhan:
Iran does not have to invade anyone. It supplies money and weapons to terrorist groups who do Iran’s bidding for them. This is how they insert influence on other countries.
Inner Hulk:
“Got proof of that?”
Gkhan:
Got proof that we are the #1 arms dealer in the world? Who the hell’s selling Hamas, Hezbollah and the PLO their weapons? Wouldn’t be Iran would it?
You ask me for proof, but you yourself have offered none. Back up some of these “facts” you throw out there.
“Russia is the world’s top supplier of weapons, a spot it has held since 2001, accounting for around 30% of worldwide weapons sales.[18][19] Russia is the principal weapons supplier of China and India, and provides weapons to Iran, Algeria, Venezuella and other countries. Recent arms deals seem to show that Russia is building on its former influence, both in the Middle East and in Latin America.[20]”
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
If a country really tries to mess with the U.S., then they will get clubbed. That’s it. That’s the big, secret reason. [/quote]
I think you made that clear on a summer day of 1945. No country dared to mess with you since. The trouble is that you act as if you own the world. There’s nothing wrong with claiming a sphere of influence, but trying to extend it to the whole planet is very dangerous.
Keep playing with fire and you’ll eventually burn yourself.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
This contradicts with your latest post.
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No, it doesn’t. That would be a case of legitimate self-defense.
Given your build, I don’t stand a chance in a fist fight with you. However, if you punch me unprovoked, I might fracture your skull with a rock and run away…
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Iran is not the Soviet Union or China. The leadership in those nations realized that attacking a nation as powerful as the USA was suicide.
The Iranians don’t care. They worship death, which they openly state. They think they are doing Allah’s will.
This is why Iran must not have these weapons. Ann Coulter is correct: carpet bomb the place to where they can’t even build a transistor radio. Kill or be killed.
Our time is running out.
There are many things wrong with this post. The most obvious is that Headhunter is totally oblivious to what Iranians want or don’t want. Last I checked they were all human beings. I don’t no anyone, human beings mind you, that want to die because they “worship death”. Why post when you don’t know what you’re talking about?
No, what’s most disturbing is that Headhunter is a teacher.
For being such a Bible-thumper, it sure is disgusting to see you advocate mass murder.
Dustin[/quote]
Where’d you get that I’m a Bible thumper? You must be thinking of someone else.
Osama’s #2 said that the difference between the West and us is that the people in the West worship life, while they (Muslims) worship death.
So, they don’t mind walking into an Israeli day care facility or getting on a British bus and pushing the ‘magic button’ that takes them to meet Allah. Since the extremists take the Koran to its EXTREME (hence the name), he ought to know.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Non-nuclear. Big difference in selling pea-shooters, and having enough common sense not to sell nuclear warheads.
Iran does not have that common sense.
First of all, the Ayatollah passed a Fatwa against nukes. Secondly, what on earth allows you to judge Iran’s common sense?
They did use their own children to clear minefields during the Iran Iraq war. I think that speaks volumes about their leaderships ruthlessness.
The fatwa does not match events on the ground, ie. industrial scale enrichment of uranium. [/quote]
I remember that. They rolled themselves up in carpet and then rolled like logs over mine fields. Something like 100,000 teens died this way.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
If Iran goes nuclear, go ahead and kick their ass. But be prepared for the fucking backlash and plan a goddamn exit this time.
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”-- Governor George W. Bush (R)-TX[/quote]
I don’t know that an entry is warranted in the first place. Bomb the shit outta the military, C&C and other strategic targets till they get tired of it and give up or the people say enough and depose the power and then let them sort it out. What we should have done in Iraq in my opinion.
We don’t need to take and occupy terrain. That’s what is pissing them off now. You could station infantry and armor near the border to get their junk out in the open to toast it with A-10’s and such if you wanted.
Just my opinion. I’m not a general, but I used to play a lot of army when I was a kid.