Fox News or Faux News

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Where are all the complaints about NBC News?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2012/12/06/george-zimmerman-sues-nbc-over-trayvon-martin-reports/

George Zimmerman sues NBC over Trayvon Martin reports

Lawyers for George Zimmerman filed suit today against NBC Universal Media over a well-publicized editing error that portrayed their client in racist terms in his pursuit of Trayvon Martin on a drizzly evening in February.

NBC?s editing of the 911 audiotape in the Martin case became a public fixation after the media-monitoring Web site NewsBusters.org noted editing oddities on a ?Today? show broadcast March 27. Here?s how NBC News portrayed the audiotape:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he?s up to no good. He looks black.

The full tape went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he?s up to no good. Or he?s on drugs or something. It?s raining and he?s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy ? is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.[/quote]

Because its a thread about fox news. Go start a thread about NBC if you want to talk about how fair or unfair they are.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Where are all the complaints about NBC News?

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They’re relatively few and far between because quite simply, it’s fuckin fashionable to board the Bash Fox train. They get to ride it with all their narrow-minded buddies and chortle about how narrow-minded the guys on the other train are.[/quote]

This is absolutely egregious. Has been since it happened. Firings are in order. I believe it’s also been mentioned in this thread already.

Anyway, I can bash Fox News and also NBC. Can either of you bash NBC and also Fox? Or is the latter just fine in your book?

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I suspect a lot of people around here don’t like Colbert[/quote]

I don’t watch Colbert any more than I do Chris Matthews. The only difference between the two is that Colbert disguises himself as a comedian and speaks politically from the left. Matthews just rants and raves like a lunatic…from the left.

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Just to put a smile on your face, Zeb:

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/

“The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly [out of five] – a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart” could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.”

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Why is that distortion any funnier than the typical left wing lies?

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

You know thing is you call people like Stewart idiots when you are so wrapped up in your world view sometimes you can’t see reality. Like the polling thread. Not only were you wrong you were wrong and frequent in the personal attacks. This would cause one to perhaps engage in some personal reflection that their own worldview certainly isn’t everyone’s and as well certainly is no longer the dominant paradigm.

Its the narrative I am older than that age group and I don’t see them as the easily swayed myopic masses. I see them as hopeful less prejudiced and less full of bitterness.

You do seem pretty bitter. Life rarely works out exactly how you want but its your choice to be resentful of the young.
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So it’s personal attack time is it? You started up sooner than usual. I call Stewart names and then you attack me personally—Those wondering how these things begin only need look at your response to my previous comments.

Got it, my turn now…

There have been millions of political predictions made over the past decade or two. Half the people are wrong and half of them are right – Ho hum. Save your hate mail for someone you might be able to intimidate with your inexperienced bullshit. My “world view” (Chuckle) is pretty spot on. So much so that I’ve been able to make a good living for myself. Some day you might know what that’s like. And if you get there you won’t like the government taking half of it.

As to your comments on my age, if you don’t think that you are going to get any smarter over the next 20 years I feel sorry for you. As I tell my daughter who also thinks she knows everything, "if we have roughly the same IQ and I have lived 20+ years longer than you how can be both be on the same level? She’s smart enough to nod her head and walk away, you won’t be. It’s far too cool to throw stones at those of us who have lived, learned and see where the country is headed under Obama. Free stuff for everyone has never worked out they have a name for it, s o c i a l i s m. Granted we’re not there yet, but we’re one step closer.

And it apparently bothers you that I’m informed enough to know who voted for Obama. And the majority of those people want something from the government.

18-30 year olds who are basically star gazing liberals. And assume that the government can crap out handouts until hell freezes over with absolutely no negative consequences. They saw Obama on Jon Stewart and well…he soooo cool. Did I just describe someone that you know? Ha…

Single women with children who want Obama to pay for their baby. Or should I say the taxpayers.

Unions who have been treated really, really well by Obama and company. See the GM deal if you are ignorant of the facts. Of course there are more examples, but begin there.

Minorities who would vote for a democrat regardless of how poor a job he did in his first term. Now let’s see why would an entire minority group vote for a democrat every four years?

LBJ started it and he’s done more harm to minorities than the Klu Klux Klan. Look it up junior.

And those who voted against Obama, or should I say “for Romney”? Naw…against Obama, as I would have voted for a pig in a suit over Obama. Anyway those people wanted one thing from their government that is, “leave us alone.”

On the one hand we have most of Obama’s supporters with their hands out. On the other hand we have the anti Obama crowd with their hands up pushing government away. Can you figure it out from here or do you want me to draw you a nice little colored map?

Back on topic, as I said Stewart and company pander to chowder heads like you. When you grow up groo and actually make some money one day you won’t think he’s quite as funny. Maturity does have it’s advantages and one of them is to be able to see through the left wing crap that is thrown at us by a very biased corrupt media. You like it now because you are young and stupid. (Ouch that was nasty huh? Eh the truth is sometimes).

You’re a genius right now Skippy but in 10 years or so you’ll look back. And when you do you won’t think you were so very special. In fact you might be laughing at yourself then just as hard as I am laughing at you now.

Now it’s your turn and make sure to crank up the ad hominems. After all I did insult Jon Stewart in my previous post and you are not going to stand for that.

Go get em tiger!
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Nah a personal attack is something like this.
You are stupid and pedantic. Unable to change your position. Respond in an emotionally charged way to any post that disagrees with you. When you are demonstrably proven to be wrong instead of any rethinking, you might possibly admit that you were wrong, however you will attempt to hold on to your worldview by explaining away the positions of others as trite and meaningless. You also are a chronic poor speller and frequently misuse homonyms. It’s pointless to engage in dialogue with you because you not only don’t want to change your position you are incapable of it. You are like a yapping dog echoing the bark of its bigger better canine companions continuing on when they fall silent.

There ya go. Carry on.[/quote]

I could not agree with you more that is a first rate personal attack!

You have risen to the level of Internet warrior quite well. And if you keep it up you may very well pass my 14 year old son who gets into these types of name calling sessions on the Internet on a regular basis.

As a man in your 40’s you have much to be proud of. Unfortunately, picking Internet fights is not one of them.

Eventually you may decide to try to debate me on the issues. But, no you probably won’t do that. Too demanding, better stick to what you know best

Now if you could only back it up.

Oh well…

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I suspect a lot of people around here don’t like Colbert[/quote]

I don’t watch Colbert any more than I do Chris Matthews. The only difference between the two is that Colbert disguises himself as a comedian and speaks politically from the left. Matthews just rants and raves like a lunatic…from the left.

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Just to put a smile on your face, Zeb:

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/

“The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly [out of five] – a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart” could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.”

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Why is that distortion any funnier than the typical left wing lies?[/quote]

What about asking news viewers objective questions and then averaging their responses is a distortion?

You are shaky ground on this one my friend. Study after study after study shows Fox viewers to be among the worst informed. Look up studies that ask Fox viewers whether or not Obama is a Muslim. It’s hilarious.

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I suspect a lot of people around here don’t like Colbert[/quote]

I don’t watch Colbert any more than I do Chris Matthews. The only difference between the two is that Colbert disguises himself as a comedian and speaks politically from the left. Matthews just rants and raves like a lunatic…from the left.

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Just to put a smile on your face, Zeb:

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/

“The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly [out of five] – a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart” could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.”

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Why is that distortion any funnier than the typical left wing lies?[/quote]

What about asking news viewers objective questions and then averaging their responses is a distortion?

You are shaky ground on this one my friend. Study after study after study shows Fox viewers to be among the worst informed. Look up studies that ask Fox viewers whether or not Obama is a Muslim. It’s hilarious.[/quote]

One must first believe that they are telling the truth. I think there is so much envy from most of the other MSLM that anything said against FOX must be weighed in light of that.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

One must first believe that they are telling the truth. I think there is so much envy from most of the other MSLM that anything said against FOX must be weighed in light of that.[/quote]

Ah, so these results are concocted? Entirely fabricated? Somebody just sat down in his office one day and decided to write down a bunch of numbers and then have them published by a university?

Nope.

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

One must first believe that they are telling the truth. I think there is so much envy from most of the other MSLM that anything said against FOX must be weighed in light of that.[/quote]

Ah, so these results are concocted? Entirely fabricated? Somebody just sat down in his office one day and decided to write down a bunch of numbers and then have them published by a university?

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Sure why not? The corrupt MSLM does that every day with the news. For example, during the election they did a lot of pretending.

-They pretended that gas prices were not double since Obama took office.

-They pretended that having an Ambassador, and three others killed was no big deal.

-They also pretended that Obama never said that the Libyan incident was all over an anti Muslim video on the Internet.

-They pretend that Obama and company never denied sending help to those in Libya.

-They pretended that Obama never raised the debt by over 5 trillion dollars more than any other President, and the previous three combined.

-They pretended that Obama never gave tax payer dollars to his failed pals in the green energy business. Hey I wonder where the executives are hiding their cash since closing down? (Hey…doesn’t matter Obama is cool)

-They pretended that Obama actually created jobs when in fact unemployment was 7.9% when he took over and was also 7.9% on election day.

We didn’t hear any of this from the corrupt mainstream liberal media during the election because they were afraid their boy wouldn’t win if they told the truth. And now you want me to believe that with an actual dog in the fight they’re going to tell the truth about a competitor who has kicked their collective asses?

Ha ha…you can believe whatever helps you get to sleep at night.

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I suspect a lot of people around here don’t like Colbert[/quote]

I don’t watch Colbert any more than I do Chris Matthews. The only difference between the two is that Colbert disguises himself as a comedian and speaks politically from the left. Matthews just rants and raves like a lunatic…from the left.

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Just to put a smile on your face, Zeb:

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/

“The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly [out of five] – a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart” could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.”

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Why is that distortion any funnier than the typical left wing lies?[/quote]

What about asking news viewers objective questions and then averaging their responses is a distortion?

You are shaky ground on this one my friend. Study after study after study shows Fox viewers to be among the worst informed. Look up studies that ask Fox viewers whether or not Obama is a Muslim. It’s hilarious.[/quote]

Gee, I wonder how they ever got that idea? Barack Hussein Obama. Check. Father was a Muslim. Check. Stepfather was a Muslim. Check. Went to a madrasa in Indonesia. Check. Speaks fluent Arabic. Check. Attended a ‘church’ that is a Nation of Islam offshoot for 20 years. Check. Doesn’t believe in celebrating Christmas. Check. America is ‘world’s largest Muslim nation.’ Check. Apology tour. Check. Islamic call to prayer ‘most beautiful sound.’ Check. Appeasing Islamists. Check. ‘The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.’ Check. He may not be a Muslim but he certainly seems to have a deep infatuation with the religion of peace. I can certainly understand why people think he is.

[quote]smh23 wrote:
Study after study after study shows Fox viewers to be among the worst informed.[/quote]

Just because Jon Stewart says so doesn’t make it so.

Jon Stewart Debunked: Claim that FOX News viewers ‘most consistently misinformed’ is ‘false.’

According to PolitiFact, a Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking web site, Stewart’s recent claim that FOX viewers are consistently the most misinformed simply isn’t true.

Glen Beck and Hannity & Colmes exceeded Stewart’s Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.

Read more: FALSE: Politifact Says Jon Stewart Wrong to Say FOX Viewers Are 'Misinformed' (Glenn Beck Ranks Higher Than Daily Show!)

Semi-aside…doesn’t anyone find it a little bit curious, if not downright amusing, that Stewart, Colbert, and O’Reilly all get along pretty damned well?

Anyone consider the possibility that their mutual trolling is far more for pure ratings than it is for any deeply held ethical or political differences?

[quote]smh23 wrote:

The following is a clip of Sean Hannity bandying about an absolute, objectively-demonstrable lie on the air. It was picked up from an Indian news service. Now, all news organizations make factual errors–an outlet is not legitimate without a corrections page/on-air segment. But this is particularly egregious:

-To literally anyone with the slightest idea about these things, a story of Indian origin would by definition be a suspicious piece of reporting. Newsmen in India make their American counterparts look like an army of Edward R. Murrows. Standards are just terrible.

-Regardless of its source, this kind of claim–34 warships? $200 million per day?–absolutely demands fact-checking. A single phone call would have dispelled it for the garbage that it was, but the people at Fox were somehow unable or unwilling to do this. A journalism student writing for a college newspaper would be absolutely obliterated by his/her professors for regurgitating nonsense like this without having checked into it. I’m not exaggerating when I say that most of the posters on T-Nation do a better job of fact-checking their sources than Hannity’s people in this link:

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A number of other “news” media sources reported the same incorrect figures.

Sean Hannity is a TV commentator, he is not FOX NEWS. His show contains comments, opinions and ideology related to current issues and politicians. I am quite certain that every one of the TV and radio commentators in media have made stupid mistakes. How do I know? They are human.

Hannity has won numerous awards and has raised millions of dollars for charities. He received a Marconi Award in 2003 and 2007 as the Network Syndicated Personality of the Year from the National Association of Broadcasters. In 2009, Talkers Magazine listed Hannity as #2 on their list of the 100 most important radio talk show hosts in America. So I think he does pretty good for a guy with a high school education. Rush Limbaugh is another high school educated commentator and is worth nearly a billion dollars from what I have read.

The younger crowd tends to cut more slack to Steven Colbert and Jon Stewart because they are political satirists, but I know many get their news from these two. I think they are funny sometimes.

Conservatives have a beef with liberal slanted news organizations like MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC because they OMIT news or hold up stories that are damaging to the left. The most famous of these is the Monica Lewinsky scandal that Newsweek magazine held until Matt Drudge broke the story on his Drudgereport.com Clinton–Lewinsky scandal - Wikipedia

smh I probably feel the same way about Ed Shultz or Al Sharpton as you do about Hannity. I feel your pain.

I see a post from Push and a post from Sexmachine that are trying really hard to imply that Obama is a Muslim without coming out and saying it–because, you know, that would be stupid.

This board–and both of you–are above that kind of thing.

Hate the guy all you want. But that is stupid.

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I see a post from Push and a post from Sexmachine that are trying really hard to imply that Obama is a Muslim without coming out and saying it–because, you know, that would be stupid.

This board–and both of you–are above that kind of thing.

Hate the guy all you want. But that is stupid.[/quote]

I’ve said before I believe Obama is an atheist. What I said above is that I can understand why people think he’s a Muslim.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

-They pretended that Obama never gave tax payer dollars to his failed pals in the green energy business. Hey I wonder where the executives are hiding their cash since closing down? (Hey…doesn’t matter Obama is cool)

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So I couldn’t find a story about Solyndra in the mainstream media? I’m sure the New York Times won’t have anything on that, right? (search term: Solyndra; results: 4,930).

The same thing can be done for each of your points. This entire post was nonsense.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I see a post from Push and a post from Sexmachine that are trying really hard to imply that Obama is a Muslim without coming out and saying it–because, you know, that would be stupid.

This board–and both of you–are above that kind of thing.

Hate the guy all you want. But that is stupid.[/quote]

I’ve said before I believe Obama is an atheist. What I said above is that I can understand why people think he’s a Muslim.[/quote]

Fair enough.

I think they’re really, really fucking dumb.

Edit: out of curiosity, why do you think he’s an atheist?

[quote]smh23 wrote:

Edit: out of curiosity, why do you think he’s an atheist?[/quote]

Firstly, his background and ideology. He’s a radical leftist. Secondly, his actions and policy - pro-secular. Thirdly, what he’s said - e.g. video where he mocks the bible. Fourthly, from observing him speaking to black religious audiences it seems clear to me that he is cynically professing the faith to gain their support. I think I’m a pretty good judge of character.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

Edit: out of curiosity, why do you think he’s an atheist?[/quote]

Firstly, his background and ideology. He’s a radical leftist. Secondly, his actions and policy - pro-secular. Thirdly, what he’s said - e.g. video where he mocks the bible. Fourthly, from observing him speaking to black religious audiences it seems clear to me that he is cynically professing the faith to gain their support. I think I’m a pretty good judge of character.[/quote]

For the record, while I don’t purport to know, I wouldn’t be surprised if were correct.