For T-men, do Men love Bitches?

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Roxy, you should start a new thread on girls with issues. Just ask for feedback from the men. They’ll all have stories.

To me, “issues” just means a girl that comes with a lot of psychological and emotional baggage. Examples can really vary, but it’s like that one senator’s definition of porn - I know it when I see it.

The problem for T-men is, of course, that girls with issues are usually great in the sack. Meanwhile, they seem to do their best to wreck your world and suck the very life out of you.

Okay, one quick example. My friend meets this girl. Wild, sexy, all over him, calling his house, hundreds of e-mails etc. She’s begging him to have sex with her. Surprisingly, he does not. His ISSUE GIRL radar is working for once.

Suddenly, no more calls or e-mails. Months pass. He runs into her casually somewhere and she’s pregnant. Finds out later that she’d gotten pregnant to try to make her boyfriend stay with her (lied about using birth control), he had dumped her anyway, and she had been trying to sleep with my friend so she could pin the baby on him. My friend is a young T-man moving up the corporate ladder in a communications company. Really going places. She had zeroed in on him as a mark because of this.

Anyway, that is one example of a girl with issues. There are many others.

And yes, men can be issue-boys as well. In relationships, this usually manifests itself as extreme jealousy, abuse, and the need to dominate and control the female. But again, there all types of “issues”.

In business, men with issues usually have ego problems. Many are prima donnas. Nasty folks to work with. They don’t last long around here.

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I must clarify. Coors Light is crap beer that anyone of any background can and may drink. I have friends who drink it for the sake of getting drunk.

Nascar (IMO) is typically a redneck thing, but it is not true in all cases. But go to a Nascar event and more often than not, those in attendance and who are fans are usually redneck.

Chris Shugart,

Oh man, you made me remember many “issues” of a few exes. The horror!

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Mmmkay.

What do I have to add to this thread…whistling tapping foot…let’s see.

I know of two different types of chick. There’s the chick who would say that she is a bitch. Since, she says, she can “hang” with the boys (smoke stogies, knock down shots, etc.), is intelligent and speaks her mind, is strong willed, has very little female friends since many women are just “jealous” of her and her openness/candor. However, the chicks’ “walk” (as in “walk the talk”), tells a different story. She announces this to the world so much that you can see the bits of “I crave attention” with a hefty side of neurosis and “issues”. That is a bitch.

But there is that other group. The chicks who don’t constantly announce this to the world around them. Since, this is what they are, what they do, and it’s normal to them; being strongwilled, able to carve their own place in the world, truly independent, not looking for “acceptance” from others, not needing the spotlight/attention from others to do what they want. ,Knowing they are women and not afraid to say that they like to wear makeup or dress pretty for “their man”. They do have “women friends”, since quality people is what they like and you find quality in both genders. Hell, they just demand quality, period. They’re not afraid to accept responsibility for their mistakes and the increased responsibility from their successes. If you piss them off, they’re not afraid to say something about that. Not afraid to be alone, and not afraid to admit when they need someone there for them. Not really concerned if they fit into any preconceived societal bullshit. Likes beer :wink:

Guess which group I like to surround myself with? And you’ll notice that some of what I said about the second group could be said about men. And some of what I said in the first group could be said about “assholes”, too.

Sorry this is rather long. But as you can see, you can’t “pidgeon hole” anytype of women or men. Everyone will have a differing opinion since we’re all individuals.

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men want women that they can please.

simple as that.

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Shugs:

Agreed. These psychos do, in fact, seek out T-Men. They need a rock of stability in an ocean of f*uped-ness.

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this somehow got posted onto another thread, so here i go again…

if a guy calls a girl a bitch out of anger, it is generally his own insecurity of being rejected and not getting what he wants, as if the girl “owes” him something… if a guy refers to a girl as a bitch in a conversation, he also me be referring to a girl that takes shit, gives up, easily dominated… of course, most of the bitchiest meanest femmes out there are the most easily dominated by their boyfriends… as for soul mates, its all in your head. your soul mate is whoever you choose to make your soul mate… the greatest quote i ever read dealing with relationships: “love is an action, not a feeling”… what you get out of a relationship depends greatly on what you put into it… the rest comes from the type of person youre dating… it doesnt take much to make a girls day… ive been dating one girl on and off for 3 years, and our relationship was shit until we both realized this… and now we get in a fight maybe once every 6 weeks, if that, were both happier with ourselves and eachother, and life just got better, cause we chose to make it that way… is she my soul mate? probably not, but she is who i choose to be with

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 I agree. 

 Weak, needy girls dont keep my attention for long. 

 Girls with character, however really get me going. Even if she's bitchy, as long as it's not OVERLY bitchy, I'll be more interested in her than someone who looks like she cant get none. This is not to say I wouldnt bang a needy girl, I just will not pursue anything with her.

 If I had to speculate, Id say this is probably due to the old survival of the fittest theory. A girl who can be self-sufficient is more likely to leave healthy offspring than someone who needs a provider... 

 The right mix is: sensitivity with a few giggles, a strong character and very independent, someone who doesnt have to do everything she is asked of, and can stand up for her self and her beliefs. All the right curves need to be there, obviously.
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I’ve never been too concerned with a woman being a bitch towards me as I simply would’nt put up with it. I live by what my father taught me as a boy. “Treat me good, I’ll treat you better, treat me bad, I’ll treat you worse”. I basically follow that simple, but effective, principle with every person I meet throughout my life. Having said this, I like strong willed, independent, women with lots of character. The woman for me should be outspoken and full of attitude, as long as it’s tempered with respect and courtesy for others. I expect the same thing from my male friends aswell and of course from myself. I don’t think it’s too much to ask.

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This is sooooooo easy…

“STRONG WOMEN”…

T-Man: Hi, my name is Jeff.

Strong Woman: I NEED you to do exactly what you want to do to me but ONLY on my terms BUT you have to wait until I am finished these 400 pound deads after which I will massage you and tell you dirty jokes so that beer spews out of your nose and then you and I will have “MONKEY SEX” WHILE WE WATCH SPORTS ON T.V!. THEN you and I will hang out like best buddies until I use my Kreskin-like powers to read your mind at the EXACT moment you decide that you no longer want me to behave like a “buddie” and turn back into the raving sex starved whore that you called filthy names during the MONKEY SEX!

“BITCH”…

T-Man: Hi, my name is Jeff.

Bitch: Please stop sniffing my hair.

I am happy I could clear this little issue up for all of us.

Next?

“Just because I have my standards they think I’m a bitch”

~ Diana Ross

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I think the definition of bitch has been covered.

Using Patricia’s post as a template:

If the first woman that Patricia described is what you would call a bitch, then I would not waste my time with her.

If the second one is, then I like, and am living with a bitch, and that’s alright by me.

As far as the whole “soul mate” thing goes, I think most people will never find their’s. The sad part is, that person is usually right in front of their face. Also known as your best friend.

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Women who assume a bloke is trying to get in their panties are a pain in the backside. Stuck up I reckon. And what about plain curiosity? If you want to know just who the hell you’re looking at. You’ve seen her around. She looks interesting. I do that, no intentions behind it.
Why cant two human beings just stand there and give each other the time of day? I tend to notice being in a 3 year relationship. I know all this is probably slightly out of context with the whole chat up/dating thing but I thought I’d throw my 2 cents worth in.

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What kinnda sports?

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I dunno…something with Big Sweaty guys in tight pants slapping each other on the ass a bunch (for her) and Cheerleaders for me…yeah, yeah…that’s it!

But nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that has John Madden commentating…kinda spoils it for everyone involved.

“No diet will remove all the fat from your body because the brain is entirely fat. Without a brain, you might look good, but all you could do is run for public office”

~ George Bernard Shaw

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Cupcake: Your whole “switching from a sports buddie to a sex-crazed maniac” deal reminded me of a post I wrote awhile ago (amazing what you can find when you search by author). So, compliments of our archives …

[i]"Orbital and other non-withdraw-ers: First of all, DAMN, Orbital. That was nice. Pardon me while I go clean up. Want a ham sandwich while I’m up? :wink: Nice technique; I’m sure your GF LOVES you big-time. Second, I’m actually one of your camp, part time at least. I’d almost rather feel the heat and force of a man cumming inside me than having him cum on me - though it’s very nice to feel the slick effect between our bodies if he does cum on me. Usually what I do if he cums in me is to push it out (love those Kegels), scoop it up and do some bodypainting/finger licking. Then you get the best of both worlds. Best position to feel him cum…female superior x 2, my FAV! After I get my handful of O’s in, it’s his turn. Then I lie on top and rest for about 20 min., discussing what the hell LaCroix is doing bothering to negotiate with Hinote and why he bothered resigning Skoula and Tanguay (damn worthless shits afraid to take a puck for the team) with him still in me. Using those blessed pussy muscles (help me out with the correct term, here), I’ll get him hard again and then do a veryslowcircular grindallthewayin* sohebottomsoutandhis headisgrindingmycervix* and then lean way back, grabbing his lower thighs (I like him to have his hands on my hip bones pulling me in harder), keeping the grinding going until we both cum together and I can feel the force of his cum from the bottom of his shaft which is against my asshole all the way up inside me till it hits my cervix and pours out of my tight pussy.

Whew! Goddamn, I’m good. Gotta go now…" [/i]

To others: I’m hoping that you’ve realized my questions were rhetorical. And for the record, Nate Dogg and I just see eye to eye on a lot of topics - he’s got a chickie he’s madly in love with and I’d just not go there. Nate: I love you, man… (a la the Budwieser commercials)

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Thanks Karma~

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My observation is based on the fact that almost every thread that karma shares in, you can be sure Nate offers some kind of affirmation within the next 3 following posts (there are also a few more subtle things as well). It appears NateDogg is Scrappy to karma’s Scooby. No matter what karma says, Nate is right there “Yeah! Yeah! Me too! Me too!”

And just because he has a gf doesn’t mean he is not looking for some extracurriculars (with or without Mrs. Dogg…I dunno may they are into that).

But maybe I am just an ass and maybe I am wrong. Just looks that way to me. No offense, just an interesting observation.

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Strong, confidant, intelligent woman are sexy, no doubt about it. My wife is like that, she is my best friend and has been for 18 years. I knew after about 2 weeks I wanted to marry her. She can be stroppy but that isn’t being a bitch it’s standing up for what you believe and not being a doormat. If my daughter grows up to be like her mother I will be very happy and proud.

Along with bitchiness is what I call the ‘girl’ factor. Girls can be any age but are emotionally immature and still operate with the mindset of a young teenager and never mature into a woman. The same is true of males, being a ‘bloke’ is ok for a while but there comes a stage where you need to grow up, get some backbone and get a life. That doesn’t mean be boring.

As for soulmate, IMHO too many people look for perfection and get disappointed, frustrated and lonely.

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Zooinks!!! Rikes Raggy !
I think your rite Ginkies?
I don’t know about the rest of you but I don’t wanna know about who’s cumming where, and whats being pushed out, and painted with.
Akk

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[quote]My observation is based on the fact that almost every thread that karma shares in, you can be sure Nate offers some kind of affirmation within the next 3 following posts (there are also a few more subtle things as well). It appears NateDogg is Scrappy to karma’s Scooby. No matter what karma says, Nate is right there “Yeah! Yeah! Me too! Me too!”

And just because he has a gf doesn’t mean he is not looking for some extracurriculars (with or without Mrs. Dogg…I dunno may they are into that).

But maybe I am just an ass and maybe I am wrong. Just looks that way to me. No offense, just an interesting observation.[/quote]

~karma~ and I do speak off the forum and have for quite some time, as friends. We do share some similar beliefs and interests, thus, if there is something she posts that I agree with, I will post my response.

If I don’t agree, I’ll state it. But in other cases, I don’t post anything because the topic at hand doesn’t matter or concern me. So there is no reason to state my disagreement in that case. Same with many other people, posts and threads.

No, Ms. Dogg and I are not into any extracurricular activities. Like I said, ~karma~ and I merely speak on a friendly basis. 'Nuff said!

You’re not an ass, and it is an interesting observation. Just like when you called me out for switching programs all the time. Yep, I used many, now I stick to the one and only program I have had my best results with: Renegade Training.

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I keep hearing about women with issues ?!?!? y’all forgot about the women who are dillusional. Those suck bad !!!