For All You AI Preachers

I’ve been dieting for like 20 years. YOu get used to just eating healthy. Bodybuilding is all about being consistent, especially with diet. Its classic “marathon and not a sprint”.

I bust my ass in the gym though

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It all shows dude. Beastly. Good work.

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No I think your Free T is fine…Where I’m going with the 3XW protocol is that you can work off of the half life of the Test a little smoother and keep more stable levels that would mimic the 300mg E2W total levels…

If I were you, I would almost kind of methodically approach things…

  1. Go back to 50mg X2 a week for 6 weeks… assess how you feel and write it down.
  2. Bump that to 50mg X3 a week for 6 weeks … repeat assessment…
  3. Tweak these doses very slightly up or down if you felt like you hit a sweet spot somewhere and maybe passed it up. If not, then go up another 25mg total per week…

Basically a start from scratch and really pay attention and document how every little change effects you. That’s a pain in the ass I know, but it may give you some answers that you otherwise missed before?

On the mental side of things…not to get too personal, but did you excessively masturbate and/or watch a ton of porn when you were younger?

In other words, any chance there is some “desensitization” (mental or physical from over stimulating) going on?

@unreal24278 heaviest was 295. The pics I posted in another thread I was around 270 with abs and ab vascularity. Bear in mind I’m tall.

Haha I just turned 39 :slight_smile:

Na here are my previous drugs :slight_smile:
Test
Deca (once and It was lame)
EQ (love it)
Tren (yay)
Dbol
Anadrol
Halo
Growth
Humalog (insulin)
Anavar (lame)
Masteron

Best combo is test humalog and growth which almost zero of you should do.

When I program my clients on diet, drugs and nutrition, everyone grows on basically max 300mg t. The doses I see here a lot are insane.

I probably won’t ever go over 500 mg t ever again. It’s just overkill if your training and nutrition is spot on. Maybe toss some EQ in. Maybe.

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I log everyday actually. Doses, how I feel, what supplements I’ve taken, etc. You HAVE to do that in dialing in I feel.

I like your idea of 50mg MWF but would think that would send my levels so high, especially e2.

And I’d say yes, probably some desensitation with porn use, especially as a kid. I pretty much have laid off all porn. I just never have the desire to masturbate anyway.

@NH_Watts

Nah. Judging by your avi you look like you lift. Keep going man!

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I’m at the end of my 2nd week on that exact protocol. I haven’t had any issues of high E2 like symptoms (other than a little anxiety last week which I attribute to the initial protocol change). I actually feel better than I ever have right now, but time will tell if that stays the same through to week 6. I’m more than happy to be your case study. If you are considering it, you can wait until I reach the 6-8 week mark and I can tell you if things change? I have more fat than you (19% - 21%) and my SHGB is almost identical. If I don’t start having E2 issues, then I would think you’d be fine.

Besides, if you do stabilize at 6 weeks on this protocol and your E2 came back too high, you could always drop a little on each dose. The stabilization period would not be enough time to cause any gyno issues or anything like that. I think I read it takes a year or so with high E2 levels to develop…could be wrong…

@roscoe88 I do not think your issue is test frequency or dosages. I don’t remember if anyone asked about sleep or stress?

Do your legs ever twitch or feel the need to move? Do you sweat easily or not at all?

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Its just flattering lighting :wink:

I rarely sweat.

I’ve never been a great sleeper, that’s for sure. I have been taking some trazodone recently for sleep and it’s been helping.

Stress, yes. I work as a lawyer and that can be stressful at times. Just no fun.

I never get RLS if that’s what youre asking.

I do believe it may be neurotransmittal in nature, as I did feel a little boost in libido/arousal with buspirone (buspar). Also have felt a little boost with pregnenolone/dhea combo, but that lasted an afternoon. My cortisol has tested high prior, so was thinking the preg may help.

I want to discuss with my DR a new drug call ADDYI. It’s designed for females, but I think it can be used by males too. It plays on serotonin and works to help low libido issues.

I had to do the same thing many years ago…People just don’t realize, or at least I didn’t, how much of a mind-fuck porn can be over a long period of time…

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@roscoe88 why not try 500mg tryptophan prebed and then 500mg tyrosine in the morning?

Give your body the raw materials to make the chems. Not more drugs.

No sweating makes me think low serotonin and that goes with your symptoms. Start at 500mg t and raise it up to 750 mg in three days and assess

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Ashuanga root and CBD oil. For anxiety, sleep, wellness… I kee hearing about these herbs. Has anyone tried these ? Has the Zop tried by any chance. A customer or mine owns a Vitamin shop and sent me some high quality stuff. I’m kinda afraid to try it until I feel like I’m stabalized. However I hear it can work wonders for some…

I do take about 500mg trypo at bedtime. Helps with melotonin.

I have tried tyrosine, but I don’t respond well for some reason. Mucuna on the other hand, I can take.

@roscoe88 tryptophan helps with melatonin because it’s a building block of serotonin. Serotonin then is involved with melatonin production.

Take 750 mg tryptophan and then 1gram glycine pre bed. Let’s start there.

Thanks for your advice.

Also bmbradys.

Not giving up hope yet.!

@roscoe88 welcome. remember these things take TIME. Sometimes months. Be patient and change nothing else for 8-12 weeks. Let your body catch up.

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See also the Warning section.

[Nausea], [vomiting], diarrhea, drowsiness, [dizziness], tiredness, [blurred vision], changes in [weight], [headache], muscle ache/pain, [dry mouth], bad taste in the [mouth], stuffy nose, [constipation], or change in sexual interest/ability may occur.

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Traz has been known to help with libido and erections.

But my issues long predate it’s use.

Thanks for looking though NH.

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