What would guesstimate your BF% to be?
Ok cool…So excess aromatase is probably NOT your issue lol…
I’m trying to think of anything else man…You have been mentioning that you think that your E2 may be too high…Do you have or have you posted labs with those actual readings on your current protocol? (Forgive me if you already posted this and I missed it.)
You look really good. Wish I looked like that…
Maybe the gym is in my near future.
In short:
300mg e2w: 880 test, SHBG 26, E2 49 (sens)
100mg once a week: 583 test, 142 FT (35-155), SHBG 27, E2 28 (sens)
50mg e3d: 860 test, 178 FT (35-155), SHBG 23, E2 27 (sens)
30mg eod: 741 TT, 193 FT (35-155), SHBG 19, E2 49 (sens).
All tests at trough
Where these where you felt the best mentally (excluding libido)?
For 10+ years.
(althoughI have no idea your starting point, just saying he has worked hard for a long time it looks like)
Am 42. That means I have to work wayyyy hard more then someone under 30.
Yeah no shit there! I’m only around 1.5-2 years in, and I’m not even halfway there! Takes a lot of time and dedication for sure!
Probably the EOD protocol at the beginning prior to e2 rising id say.
At the beginning of my journey with IM (I’ve done axiron prior), I did feel a little libido, like more arousal and penis sensitiveity with the 300mg e2w protocol.
No that just means you need to work smarter ![]()
Had my gym membership since 14. I’m now 40.
TRT didn’t do it. I looked like that prior. My dr was so hesitate to place me on TRT that he gave me a full steroid panel to rule out that I was fishing for test.
That could actually give some credence to the mental block theory…When you FIRST started, there was an anticipation of getting better so it could have been a partial double blind placebo (I made that term up lol…but you get the idea…)
Am I reading this correctly? 300mg once every two weeks vs 30mg every other day?
Your E2 was the same, shoots down the lower dose, more frequent approach to bring down E2, though presumably TT and E2 would have been much higher week one if labs were drawn at trough.
Was there much difference in the way you felt?
Possibly. But it was definitely a feeling that somethings working.
SOmetimes I think maybe I need higher doses to feel something. I should go by feeling and not numbers.
yes, E2 was the same in those protocols, but remember, the e2w protocol, my lab was done mid way through the 2 week span. So I’m sure e2 was fluctuating a bit.
As to the way I’ve felt, I haven’t really felt much, either with TEST or estrogen sides. Maybe a little irritable at times and some anxiety. But just really don’t feel TRT. Wondering if I should explore higher doses. That’s why I’m doing 60mg e3d right now.
You should definitely give credence to how you feel, but with protocol you have going your Free T number are spot on…I think rather than total number on the 300 #2W protocol, it was possibly more the feeling of so much Test being injected at one time, and the subsequent reversal when it rapidly dropped…
Have you tried doing a 50mg 3XW (M, W, F) protocol (total 150mg)?
Im 17 years in and barely look like I lift and am at 22% BF (low T for 16 years didnt help though)
No, I’ve never tried a MWF with 150mg. That would send my FT so high I bet.
Even with my e2 at 49 at times, I’ve never really had sides, except for no libido, which may not even be a side. I did, at one point, felt a little sensation in my nip, but it went away.
You think maybe I just need higher FT:?
Well it speaks to your work ethic, diet consistency, and although low T some top notch genetics it would seem. Now you can tell me you mostly eat PF Changs and HoHos and hit the gym twice a week tops. ![]()
