Do you get to train at that facility long term, or just for the duration of the study?
[quote]Ad B wrote:
Flow wrote:
Thanks, Coach.
Ad B, I had to change up the program for purposes of pre-testing for a study on knee forces during heavy lower body compound exercises. I’m a subject/torture volunteer for the study, so I just do what they tell me to do.
It’s cool, though. I get free gatorade, protein shakes, and the opportunity to train in what is widely renowned as the world’s best training facility.
sweet! Iv taken part in 2 studies before.
First was looking at the IGF and inflammation response to weight training. It was two different sessions, a morning (on one day) and afternoon (different day). we had to be fasted for at least 10hours for both sessions and have blood samples taken before and after the sessions. that was hell!
The second wasnt so bad, and was actually a fun one to do. Looking at running economy and the use of orthotics. Had a musculoskeletal evaluation of my feet and orthotics made. then I had to go back and have about 6 different EMG sites monitored whilst hooked up to a gas analyiser. Looked like freakin Ivan Drago in the training montage!
I got to keep the orthotics which would have cost at least $150
Got my PM?[/quote]
The first study you mentioned sounds like absolute hell ![]()
The second, on the other hand, actually sounds like fun. So were they analyzing the influence of orthotics on ankle arthrokinematics? I would be interested in a specific evaluation of hip musculature with and without orthotics measured with different people. I think that would be interesting.
Got PM, will reply.
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
If you get a double knee bend or split jerk down you got another 20-30lbs on that press. You’ve got great inital leg drive. [/quote]
Thanks. I was surprised at how 205 went up, seeing as my PR was 185 not so long ago.
Should I spend some time learning push jerk and split jerk technique?
[quote]
Did I just read your gaining weight to quickly??? No such thing my friend.
Monopoly[/quote]
Can’t argue with that!
[quote]Bloobird wrote:
Do you get to train at that facility long term, or just for the duration of the study?[/quote]
I really wish I could, but nope.
Every time I go there they have at least a few ridiculous athletes going through drills. It’s a phenomenal environment to be in, and I feel like a useless jumble of bone, muscle, sinew, and nervous tissue when I am in their athletes’ presence.
/done being hard on myself

Lunch is above. . .
[u][i]5-12-09[/u][/i]
AM Weight: 212.4
Back Pain: 0 out of 10
Right Pec Pain: 0 out of 10
[u][i]Upper Body 1[/u][/i]
Foam Rolling
Dynamic Flexibility
A. Bench Press
205X4X2 PR(+1 rep, +1 set)
215X4 PR(+10 lbs.)
205X6 PR+3 reps
B. Close Grip Pin Press
175X6X3 PRs
C. Hammer Chin
BWX6 baseline PR
D. DB Row
105X30/side PR
E. Prone Internal Rotations
20X20X2
Only did one set of hammer chins to leave some in the tank for tomorrow. Going to be PRing on Front squats.
So I was getting some cervical flexion and whatnot during the DB rows, which I’ll have to avoid next time I do them. I’m pretty happy with how they looked, though.
So how about shattering bench PRs every week?
By the end of the summer, I’ll be in new clothing and I’ll have to be careful opening doors.
Wouldn’t want to crush any doorknobs. . .
[quote]Flow wrote:
Ad B wrote:
Flow wrote:
Thanks, Coach.
Ad B, I had to change up the program for purposes of pre-testing for a study on knee forces during heavy lower body compound exercises. I’m a subject/torture volunteer for the study, so I just do what they tell me to do.
It’s cool, though. I get free gatorade, protein shakes, and the opportunity to train in what is widely renowned as the world’s best training facility.
sweet! Iv taken part in 2 studies before.
First was looking at the IGF and inflammation response to weight training. It was two different sessions, a morning (on one day) and afternoon (different day). we had to be fasted for at least 10hours for both sessions and have blood samples taken before and after the sessions. that was hell!
The second wasnt so bad, and was actually a fun one to do. Looking at running economy and the use of orthotics. Had a musculoskeletal evaluation of my feet and orthotics made. then I had to go back and have about 6 different EMG sites monitored whilst hooked up to a gas analyiser. Looked like freakin Ivan Drago in the training montage!
I got to keep the orthotics which would have cost at least $150
Got my PM?
The first study you mentioned sounds like absolute hell ![]()
The second, on the other hand, actually sounds like fun. So were they analyzing the influence of orthotics on ankle arthrokinematics? I would be interested in a specific evaluation of hip musculature with and without orthotics measured with different people. I think that would be interesting.
Got PM, will reply.[/quote]
Yea the second one was fun. The guy who was doing in for his MSc was a really cool guy, owned a few clinics in and around london. He was looking at the use of orthotics on running economy and how it can effect muscle activity and VO2. EMG for tibialis ant. medial/lateral gastroc, peroneus longus. Muscle activity and VO2 was measured throughout a 10min treadmill run with and without orthotics.
That would be interesting, be really cool to see if the effect on hip musculature had a subsequent effect on lumbar stability and thoracic mobility over time??
[quote]Flow wrote:
Should I spend some time learning push jerk and split jerk technique?
Can’t argue with that![/quote]
I’m a huge fan of the push/split jerk. Unless you are just massively strong, utilizing the jerk is the only way to put up bigger numbers. Learning it however will take some time, and you need someone who can help you.
Monopoly

My leg after sumo deadlifts.
[u][i]5-13-09[/u][/i]
AM Weight: 212.6
Back Pain: 0 out of 10
Right Pec Pain: 0 out of 10
[u][i]Lower Body Testing 2[/u][/i]
Foam Rolling
Dynamic Flexibility
A. Low Intensity Hops and Bounds
B. Power Snatch
125X6 PR
C. Front Squat
230X7 PR
D. Sumo Deadlift
292.5X12 PR
E. Forward Lunge
185X10/side PR
Going into Athlete’s Performance, I felt more tired than I would like to have felt. I was antsy but still good to go.
On the Power Snatch, I didn’t have the ‘pop’ I would have liked to have for testing purposes, but I managed 5 clean reps and one rep where I caught the bar with slightly less than a locked elbow.
I just went nuts on the front squats. After testing earlier this week I was still pretty tired, but I knew I needed to get a PR on them. The last rep was a bit forward, but overall good.
For the Sumo Deadlifts, I really don’t remember much beyond starting the set and collapsing onto a nearby platform afterward. I anticipated doing 6, as I figured that would be a good number to shoot for with that weight. I started the set and just sort went ‘out of it’. I honestly think I experienced what Sports Psychologists refer to as the “Flow State”. Hence my avi name. After I collapsed on the platform, desperately trying to catch my breath, I heard Dr. Escamilla say “So, sumo deadlifts, 12 reps. . .” as he wrote the results on his clipboard. . . I was shocked to hear that. I didn’t think I had done anything over maybe 8 reps.
Forward Lunges were heavier than I’ve ever done them in the past, but I was still steady and controlled. I felt great with that much weight on my back for em’.
I gave this my all, I brought intensity, and I showed some of the best professionals in the S&C world exactly how much passion I have for their field.
I also managed to open up an opportunity. . . One I didn’t anticipate seeing until Grad School.
Life is good.
I hope everything is going well for you. Thanks for stopping by my log.
What’s this opportunity?
[quote]Bloobird wrote:
What’s this opportunity?[/quote]
Physical Therapy volunteer work.
On an aside, I feel antsy today like I need to lift. . .
That’s odd, because I’ve been hitting it hard 3 days in a row.
I’m taking today off and we’ll see how tomorrow feels for training upper body.
[u][i]5-13-09[/u][/i]
AM Weight: 214.0
Back Pain: 0 out of 10
Right Pec Pain: 0 out of 10
[u][i]Upper Body 2[/u][/i]
Dynamic Flexibility
A. Push Press
185X1
210XF
195XF
175X1
B1. Yates Row
210X6X3 PR
B2. Weighted Pushup
35X10,8,8
C. Prone Internal Rotation
D1. Reverse Curl
35X12
50X10
75X4
50X12
D2. Skull Crusher
?X?
?X?
75X8
65X12
The push press misses were annoying. . . I was SO CLOSE to getting 210, I was grinding at a sticking point for a few seconds. . . That really just knocked me out. I should have just let it come back down. Wasn’t getting any more weight over my head after that epic miss.
I would not have done this work if I was 100% sure I was going to be tested again this Sunday. I was told that the testing may be pushed back a few weeks, which is a huge inconvenience. If that happens, my training will be screwed up AGAIN by this study. I love the opportunities this study has brought me, but I need to get back to my regular scheduled training. My performance this week has started to decline and I feel physically ‘slow’.
I’ve forced myself to not be aggravated by these circumstances, but it’s still an inconvenience. Summer started out PERFECTLY, with some awesome PRs and some good weight gain. Trouble is, with the unpredictability of this study, I am not sure I can expect to write down any type of plan and expect to follow it adequately.
I guess it’s a learning experience, however I was looking forward to being able to specifically plan 2 months of training (at least) without interruption.
This won’t get in the way of me accomplishing my goals, but I’m still about ready to be done testing and whatnot
. . .
Next week I am working a lot more than usual and I feel that it’d be a good idea to take things down a notch. I’ll do a moderate deload and then go hard into my new schedule. . . BTW, I’m going to organize my new schedule with a pretty specific focus on strength on my major indicator lifts and hypertrophy on relevant assistance work. I’ll have a bench and bench assistance day, a push press and push press assistance day (this day will include more heavy arm work because there is not a whole lot of extra assistance work I am used to tolerating in overhead pressing), a deadlift and assistance day, and a squat and assistance day. Equipment allowing, I will make some of the squat/deadlift assistance work event stuff: farmers carries, tire flips, and whatnot.
You’re an intelligent kid. Impressed with your setup and ability to follow through. Seriously, good shit all around. Also, your weightroom makes me cry from jealousy.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
You’re an intelligent kid. Impressed with your setup and ability to follow through. Seriously, good shit all around. Also, your weightroom makes me cry from jealousy.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing–You even get to play with a prowler inside! Great job on your training bro!
[quote]Alpha wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
You’re an intelligent kid. Impressed with your setup and ability to follow through. Seriously, good shit all around. Also, your weightroom makes me cry from jealousy.
I was thinking the same thing–You even get to play with a prowler inside! Great job on your training bro![/quote]
I really appreciate you guys saying that. . . I have a lot of knowledge and strength to gain, so I’m going to keep the ball rolling and continue to learn from those that have ‘been there, done that’: people like the two of you.
Thanks again.
[u][i]5-16-09[/u][/i]
AM Weight: 213.0

I asked the Radiologist to burn me a copy of the radiology viewing program and all of my MRI shots. He gladly agreed, which was a pleasant surprise ![]()
I also tried to get him to do a lumbar spine MRI, but he couldn’t do that.
Oh well. At least I gave it a shot ![]()
This is my right knee. If you look at the center of the image, between the tibia (lowest bone) and the femur (highest bone), you will see a ‘black’ structure running from the front (anterior) of the tibia at its tip (superoanterior) to the back (inferoposterior) of my femur. This is my ACL. You can see that it is a nice solid line.
Good. I’ll keep it that way.

This is my ‘calf’ area. The bone at the top of the picture is my tibia, the one to the bottom left is my fibula. The big muscle toward the bottom of gastrocnemius, with soleus deeper than it. I’ll leave it at that.
BTW, OH NOES. Now you guys know my name IRL.
Hopefully no one on this site has some sort of vendetta against me. ![]()
The Radiologist commented that I have the most muscle out of any of the tested subjects so far, which is cool. Except for the fact that some of the folks that have already been tested are stronger than me. . . ![]()
BRING ON THE SINGLES. DIE, INEFFICIENT NERVOUS SYSTEM. I blame super smash brothers. Too much sitting down as a kid. Not enough jumping.
Nice MRI shots. But I do believe the Radiologist was lying to you or he forgot that I was in the study. Oh well…
That’s some cool stuff! I’m very jealous.
Regardless of how it might interfere with your training, the research study sounds like a great opportunity and definitely something to put on your resume later!