Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 2)

Confession: Biotest 20% off got me again. Trying out the Rez-V and ZMA and reordering curcumin.

Also, I have decided to jump rope and do some BW work at home later today and I am already dreading it.

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@cyclonengineer For what it’s worth, I didn’t notice much using the Rez-V while taking Alpha Male, but part of me wonders if my nutrition is dialed in enough that I’m not dealing with a lot of estrogens in my environment.


My confession is that I had yet another surreal experience today. Took my kid to some pumpkin patch that’s like a chopped down Knotts’ Berry Farm. My kid is doing some obstacle course, I’m sitting there in my Loyal Brand ā€œEmbrace the Suckā€ tanktop, and one of the attendants comes up to me. Early college age kid, says ā€œExcuse me, I don’t mean to bother youā€¦ā€ and I’m thinking ā€œGreat: what did I do wrong by sitting here?ā€ And then he goes ā€œWhat do you do for your meals?ā€

I completely blank at how to respond, and eventually spit out ā€œLean meat and veggiesā€. He goes ā€œAh, I’m trying to get big, but I don’t know what to eatā€. I then tell him, no joke, to look up Jon Andersen’s Deep Water program, and he grabs his phone and gets to work.

Once again: what kind of meaningful dialogue could we have had there? I would love to help that kid…but then and there? And look at the question he asks: what do I do for my meals, not what DID I do for my meals. If he wanted to know THAT, I would have told him Super Squats, a gallon of milk, and eat whatever isn’t nailed down.

Hey, let’s throw another confession in there: at the state fair like environment I was at, I had a packet of tuna for my snack. I had no fork, so I just peeled back the wrapper and ate it like the world’s worst candy bar.

And I am unreasonably excited about my bison burgers I’m having tomorrow.

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The question from the kid combined with the tuna solution just strikes me as hilarious.

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Honestly, sounds like a meaningful conversation - he asked a couple questions, listened, and looked up what you said. Of course, it’s only as meaningful as the action that goes along with it.

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Eh, I don’t feel I relayed anything useful in the exchange compared to what could have been done if he was willing to sit down for like 5 minutes. I feel like he walked away with the totally wrong message: eat lean meat and veggies to put on size. That’s not at all what I’d tell anyone if asked.

I appreciated that he took the time to approach me, and wish it could have been worthwhile.

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Good to know thanks. Honestly I am more interested in it for the supposed insulin sensitivity benefits (some studies seem to support this).

I got to bottles and will be monitoring my BG levels without changing anything else. Anything I can do to help lower my A1c is good.

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I had an interesting chat with my sister who lives in the UK at the weekend. We were talking about food and some issues she has had with digestion and being regular. She mentioned that she had switched to a gluten free diet but that it was really expensive in the UK to buy gluten free food ? I was more than a little confused by this, and asked her whether meat or fish or vegetables or dairy or rice or fruit was expensive. Her reply was that no they were not but gluten free, cereal, bread, biscuits, cakes, pasta etc were all much more expensive than those than contained gluten. My response was to simply say ā€˜then don’t eat those things’ ā€˜none of them are required for your body anyway’ . She was completely unable to see what I was talking about and could simply not imagine a world where she couldn’t have cereal or toast for breakfast or a wrap or sandwich for lunch. Wheat producers from around the world and careful advertising and marketing for the past 50 years really have a lot to answer for.

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I put chicken in my eggs in the morning and you would think it was the end of the world!

Chicken at breakfast?
Chicken and egg in one meal? :exploding_head:

As a side confession, I never realised people got a bit weirded out by mixing chicken and egg lol

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How dare you eat a natural meat product in the morning when there are lots of processed wheat based sugar stacked cereals that are fortified with iron which are the best thing to have !!

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I personally enjoy the cruelty inherent in the dish. I, one day, wish to have a platypus cheese omelet, primarily because it’s one of the very few animals that can provide all of those ingredients.

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A buddy of mine asked me what I eat, and I said ā€œI have a fairly normal dietā€. He followed up with ā€œSo you eat bread right?ā€ and I looked at him like he was from another planet, thinking in my head ā€œWhat is it, my birthday?ā€

It’s interesting the habits we get ingrained in to the point we forget that they are habits. It’s like how everyone’s house smells ā€œweirdā€.

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It is also interesting how people perceive what is healthy vs what is not. A friend of mine out a post on IG the other day talking about their healthy spread with a picture of the typical board with cheese and meats and crackers and bread and olives etc. It looked really good but in my mind I couldn’t help thinking ā€˜healthy ?’ Bread and crackers - maybe not, processed meats - maybe not, the veggies were OK and some of the hard cheese but there was plenty of things in the picture that wouldn’t make it on my necessary to eat , let alone healthy list.

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There is an entire aisle in the supermarket dedicated to ā€œhealthā€ products like gluten-free bread/biscuits etc. My wife has completely fallen for it so I get to eat plenty of this stuff - the tastes and textures have improved A LOT in the last few years, but most of it remains very high carb (not complex carbs either) so I don’t really see how much ā€œhealthierā€ it really is.

In the UK, bread is still regarded as an essential component of any diet - the best you can hope for is that it’s wholewheat instead of ultra-processed white bread.

It’s a member of my team’s last day today, so I’m taking everyone out for a farewell lunch. I made a big show of asking everyone where they wanted to go - the kid who’s leaving is a skinny 25 year-old vegetarian girl.

Anyway, the votes are in and we’re going to Goodman’s, which is the best steak joint in London.

I confess there was only one vote for Goodman’s vs several for the dim sum place, but so far there’s been no ā€œStop The Stealā€ backlash, so steak it is.

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Very similar in Australia mate. Bread and cereals are the popular choice for breakfast and lunch.

I was so happy when mum finally accepted me eating ā€œnon breakfast foodsā€ at ā€œbreakfast ā€œ

According to my cousin, meat and veggies are indeed more expensive compared to prices in China and probably the US too
:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

The gym is closed for maintenance.
I confess I’m kind of glad bc now I have a somewhat legit excuse to take the day off

Turns out dicking around with friends at the gym is quite taxing
@ChongLordUno no, I will not be doing burpees

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Oh go on

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They absolutely are here in the Great White North. Eating a natural, unprocessed diet is almost always more expensive.

Unless of course you hunt and fish and supplement your diet with homegrown fruits and veggies. Which I do, so that brings the cost down somewhat (once you’ve got everything set up).

On the topic of bread, I confess that I buy an unbleached, no-added-sugar, dark rye made with artisanal spring water, like a proper yuppy. It’s so fucking good though, I will never go back to normal bread.

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