Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 2)

Yes but look at all those ingredients ?? If I wanted 20g of proteinI could just eat 3 eggs and that is just one ingredient - egg.

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But an egg is not a Pop Tart. :smile:

This is the issue that some companies run into when making a protein-treat kinda thing. Some potential customers demand A) a treat that tastes exactly like the real thing (candy bar etc.) but they also demand B) no weird looking ingredients. Hard to have it both ways.

We experienced this a bit back when we made an unflavored protein powder:

ā€œI demand one that’s unflavored!ā€

We provide it.

ā€œYuk, there’s no flavor!ā€ (Same customers.)

It’s a funny business sometimes. Related example: Customers demand more flavors than chocolate and vanilla. Company makes more flavors… which sit in the warehouse largely unbought because everyone buys… chocolate and vanilla.

While I wouldn’t make a habit of eating protein Pop Tart either, I think we sometimes get carried away with the whole ā€œDon’t eat anything you can’t pronounce!ā€ stuff. Like this:

That’s the ā€œingredientsā€ of a strawberry.

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Its not a mars bar either, but I dont do them also. If I want chocolate I just eat chocolate. I dont try to convince myself it is a protein bar

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I designed menus for a restaurant that was specialized in paleo, keto, pescatarian, spa cuisine, whatever you want. We dealt with this a lot. The B crowd had this ability to convince themselves that something tasted good after 15+ rounds of recipe tasting and ā€œfeedback.ā€ Once we started retasting the original items side by side with A/B testing, we avoided cooking ourselves into a corner.

On the subject of poptarts I used to eat peanut butter and cinnamon roll poptart sandwiches when I was dumber and into outdoor endurance stuff and only carbs and fat mattered.

Back to poptarts though, I once did a dinner party where they wanted a toaster at each seat and a lobster poptart course. Apparently it was on a Real Housewives show and the client requested it.

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Whoa. Did you pull that off?

I’ve studied some homemade protein Pop Tarts recipes. Looks like a lot of trouble to make it look like a Pop Tart when pretty much the same ingredients could be made into something else.

Here’s one:

That’s a B recipe.

I love going through all that work and adding sprinkles at the end.

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Is that why it’s so hard to find strawberry protein powder these days?

I’ve been meaning to ask….

Nope! Me neither.

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I remember eating a lot of poptarts when I was in elementary school, but instead of fond memories, I just remember how much it hurt when my mouth got dry

Was very surprised when the protein pastries didn’t do this

This reminds me of Dave Tate doing his 800g high carb days by eating dry breakfast cereal and cutting up the roof of his mouth so bad it would start bleeding.

Which, in turn, just goes on to further using Dave Tate as an example of ā€œdo you want it BAD enoughā€

…and also goes on to show that insulin is absolutely bonkers.

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I just got the cinnamon sweet rolls and they’re excellent heated up.

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Probably. Due the higher cost of raw ingredients (especially quality ingredients), I bet a lot of protein powder makers are sticking to what works best for flavors, what most people want: vanilla and chocolate. Then there’s the inventory, the overstock getting taxed, etc. etc. That’s also why some formerly good protein powders switched to cheaper proteins: to keep the profits up. And that’s one thing Biotest doesn’t do with MD Protein: it’s always the best stuff that delivers the desired effect because, as the store page says, we only make what we want to take.

Now, there’s used to be this idea in brick & mortar retail of ā€œpushing the other guy off the shelf.ā€ Come out with a lot of flavors just to take up shelf space and make GNC choose to get rid of other brands. The flavors didn’t sell very well, but that shelf space was ā€œownedā€ by you and not a competing brand. Supplement brick & mortar retail is almost dead now so that’s less of a concern today. No shelf space concern with Amazon. Lots of other concerns, but not shelf space. (And if you’re buying protein powder from a physical retail store, it sucks. Period. There’s no way to keep the quality high and deal with a middle man and margins.)

Now, that practice still happens with convenience stores and energy drinks. Most people buy the same flavors of energy drinks, but some companies flood the market with different flavors, like dozens. That’s just to take up shelf space, not because people are demanding a spicy mango pina colada flavor. It’s a cutthroat market.

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Holy cow, this makes SO much sense when it’s pointed out. Always wondered who was buying these weird flavors. The answer was ā€œno oneā€, haha.

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didn’t no this was a thing, I just finished a tub of strawberry and it was delicious. No issue getting strawberry down here,

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Just a tip- it changes the macros, and adds a lot to the micros, but mixing vanilla with a quantity of juice changes it to what ever flavor you like + vanilla.

And chocolate+cherry juice is awesome.

Confession- I play with my food. Alot!

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I love mixing protien powder with stevia and pumpkin puree

makes a great pudding and gets fibre in without pissing off my gut

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Pumpkin is all kinds of good! :+1:

Deer ate mine this year, so now I have to plant them from store bought seeds.

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They have deer seeds?

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:rofl:

Yep. The full grown ones leave little piles of them around, then 6 mos. later, little deer sprouts!

I confess I’m jealous of the tinned pumpkin you get in the states, not a supermarket item over here, but I’d love to try some of the MD recipes that involve it, on a related tangent, I always want to get involved with shooting/hunting but the UK is very prohibitive on firearms (despite there being double the sustainable deer population, because no one hunts…) and it’s illegal to bow hunt…

I should probably move to America.

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