Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 2)

I confess that having friends is great, but they are time consuming and expensive :sob:

Mm-hmm, kids too.

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Another reason I’ll never be a parent

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You know, I’ve heard hundreds of dudes say they’ll never get married, yet most do.

I think most people who never have kids end up regretting it.

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I’m glad I made the decision to never be a parent.

Friends are cool though. :sunglasses: I’m grateful I made a few new ones in my town last year. I didn’t realize how badly I needed new ones.

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I don’t know that most people who make the decision not to have them regret it. I would actually guess that the number of regretters is pretty low. It’s easy to observe the downsides of having kids, but impossible to understand second-hand the satisfaction.

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The research shows that the boost in happiness and well being from having children is driven almost exclusively by dads

the effect seems to be, on average, neutral to slightly negative for mums

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I think the number of people who regret having children is higher than what most suspect, but this will very easily open a can of worms that people here – the majority of whom are parents, I believe – will probably not like. There are many reasons why I have decided to not become a parent. But in any case I am happy to (hopefully) become a childfree, female role model for younger people. I think society needs more women like this.

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Given how taboo it is to admit this, I’m inclined to agree. It would be interesting to find a way to accurately study this

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Absolutely, and it breaks my heart. I’m not surprised that childfree, single women are reportedly the happiest.

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I have 2 friends. One I talk to daily. One I haven’t talked to in a few years. But I’d lay down in front of traffic for either of them, and I know they’d do the same for me.

I was NEVER going to have children. I come from a long line of child abuse and crazy that I was going to see end with me. But God laughs at our plans. Have one biological son, raised a step-daughter in my first marriage, and now have four step-sons in my second marriage. It’s expensive and time-consuming and NOTHING can worry you more than a kid, but I wouldn’t change a thing.

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It’s cool that you still got to end the multi generational cycle of negativity, only by being a parent vs not being one.

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I agree! If you would have told me 18 years ago, that I would have a 17yo right now, I would have laughed at you. Yet… here I am :rofl:

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Considering that I will never engage in the activity required to produce children, I think I’m safe

With that said, I’d never discourage others from having children. I just don’t like it when ppl say that havign children is required to be ā€œfulfilledā€

Poor Anna :cry:

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I don’t know if it’s REQUIRED. I was 27 before I had my son, so I had some life experience. I know I’m much more fulfilled since having kids. But I don’t think you can miss what you never had.

Although I know you’re right about this ruffling feathers, I’ve never understood why people feel so invested in the choices of others when it comes to childbearing. People feeling that ā€œbreedersā€ are crowding others out with their children - yes, but what about the possibility that one of these children will solve some problem important to everyone, or important to the person railing against breeding, e.g. solving an uncomfortable chronic health issue? People insisting that others will be unhappy, or have let down the group somehow, if they don’t have children? Why? What motivates this concern?

There are just so many contexts for which my mother’s ā€œdon’t worry about what others are eating, just keep your eyes on your own plateā€ is appropriate.

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Your mum is very wise

On a side note, I’ve had quite a few econ related conversations about having children with (mostly male) friends and was surprised that nearly all of them said they wanted children for personal reasons

Do you think that when the kids are in their 20’s that the parent’s still feel this sense of regret? Perhaps a temporary regret, but I think it would be hard to raise a child from birth into adulthood and regret having them in the first place.

Sorry, can you explain this?

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You dont have to drink to make babies.

I was sober for 10 years before making mine.

:rofl:

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