Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 2)

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Two very important things to find in a chiropractor!

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Suddenly Chiropractic makes sense


My confession is I had quick oats for the first time in an age. I’ve had steel cut oats forever.

Good bye steel cut oats. I’m too old for that shit.

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Now that is a confession!

A former coworker of mine told me that he enjoyed hair cuts, because that was the only time a woman would touch him. I couldn’t believe that he told me that.

No. Spinal manipulations at the neck can cause lesions of the vertebral artery, which can lead to a stroke.
The chances are very slim that it will occur but if you take the benefits of a treatment like that (short term pain relief through neuromodulation and no long term benefit), you should absolutely think twice about having someone do this. And yes, it absolutely happens that a young and healthy patient had a stroke in the timely context of a spinal manipulation treatment of the cervical spine.

Other manual therapy treatments are safe but very similar in effect or lack there of (there is a time and place for everything and this is a pretty long topic to sum up but the narrative used for manipulation techniques like this are absolutely wrong - i.e. misaligned vertebrae).

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A close family member has totally drank the chiro cool-aid and I don’t think they’ve been in any better state since they started going in the 90’s. They always come back with some BS diagnosis about rotated disks or floating sacrum etc etc

It upsets me that they’re allowed practise at all

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Well I don’t want to go into a debate about something that broad because I know of good chiros and other medical professions use similar quasi logic, outdated models, placebos, nocebos and so on. But I absolutely do understand the bad rep of chiros and think it is warranted. In general if you find yourself with some practioner whose therapy only relies on passive treatments: Run.
Don’t get me started about rotated discs and what not
 ever seen an autopsy of the lumbar spine? Shit is far less unstable as those people would have you believe, haha.

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I am of the opinion that I would only go if something spine / nerve related was wrong. Then I would try it and see. If they can’t get it right in a couple of months, it probably isn’t going to get better with chiro.

There are good chiros
 they’re just about as rare as a 20 carat blue diamond

According to Dr. Jordan Shallow, good chiros don’t really manipulate at all. Sessions are basically just PT, but with cooler tools

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Just sounds like a good argument for abolition imo

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exactly

Even it it doesn’t work, I still want to try 1 session though b/c cracking just feels soooo good

Be careful, when I had bad back issues and saw a chiropractor (one of the good ones) he moved my neck once and I came very close to blacking out to the blood rush.

I have thrown my back out on 3 occassions and have found chiros to fix it all three times (took about 2-3 months). They said I should keep coming back, but I only go back if it really gets bad again to the point I can hardly walk.
I also had a chiro that was basically a physical therapist who helped prevent surgery when I partially tore my MCL.

Hmmm
natty or not?:thinking::thinking:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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It was three important things by my count.

I’m an ophthalmologist
Had a pt show up one day essentially blind. She had a condition that caused her intracranial pressure (ICP) to go up high enough that, over time, her optic nerves were irreversibly damaged. Not surprisingly, this condition also causes severe headaches, which she’d been having for about a year. For most of that year she had been seeing a chiropractor on a weekly basis, paying in cash for neck manipulations she was told would stop the HAs. She came in to see us when 1) she noticed she was having trouble seeing, and 2) the chiropractor told her she needed to start coming in twice a week.

We recognized/diagnosed her elevated ICP that day, and arranged for a stat MRI (to rule out an intracranial mass) and lumbar puncture (to confirm the elevated ICP) in the next several days. We immediately started her on the correct medical treatment for her condition, and her HA resolved within a few days. Unfortunately, nothing could be done about her vision loss–optic nerve cells cannot be regenerated (at this time). In response, she sued everyone–I’m talking me, my resident, the radiologist, even the doctor who performed her stat LP.

That is, everyone except the chiropractor.

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The consequences of not showing loyalty to your witch doctor can be dire.

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His insurance probably didn’t have as high of a liability limit on payout.

Why sue for 5 mil. when you can sue for 50, right?

That does suck though.

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Wait, she sued you for correctly diagnosing her condition? I hope it didn’t stick for you.

Natty of course, he just uses a magic sword !!

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I confess I just got a twitter account for my food blog

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Yeah, it didn’t get past the medical-review stage. If you get a ‘did everything right’ report back from medical review, the lawyer usually drops the case.