Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 1)

That looks exactly like cat food they sell in supermarkets.

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Confession:

It tastes pretty good.

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The old lawn boy 2 stroke mix was a dark dyed blue/black.

Color coded so it wasn’t confused with straight gasoline.

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Haha I appreciate the compliment, but I am FAR from a guru. I just like eating it. IMO, steak is steak no matter how it’s cooked. Boil it if you want, as long as it goes down the hatch!!!

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Anyone else noticing a new trend on here of new guys posting about using ridiculous low caloric intake?

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Social media has made a whole new slew of eating disorders a thing. Now that dudes are on display 365 days a year, they can’t POSSIBLY let one SINGLE ab show signs of blur, so it’s a quest to survive off as few calories as possible. Otherwise, they lose the followers, and with that the illustrious 10% off yohimbe sponsorship.

ā€œBulkā€ is a true 4 letter word these days.

How many are true though ?

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Have you seen the show secret eaters? It’s honestly insane how much those ppl underestimate

I’m sure a lot of it is staged, but still

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I would say it has become the most missed understood and missed used concept around anymore.

yeah im questioning that also… how much of it is inaccurate counting on their part or slight exaggeration if not complete Bullshit .

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Yup. You say ā€œbulkā€ and kids immediately assume you mean eating 6k calories of fast food every day. It’s how so many youtube gurus can prey (pray?) on kids these days with promises of ā€œlean gainsā€. Doesn’t help that most trainees can’t even boil water and the most basic of cooking is a non-starter.

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Its been going on for years. The idea that you can get everything you want NOW. With no sacrifice. Remember the fad of slimming tablets? They took off as there was 0 compromise. Eat shit - get lean. Whats to hate? And that the thing with a bulk. It requires a compromise.
But it started well before this. Diet food. The idea that a food can be ā€œdietā€ is beyond me. Food is food. But they started with taking the fat out - and replaced it with sugar. People still can’t get their head into gear and see that you can;t have food that tastes really rich AND that is healthy to eat in such abundance. All people have to do is eat it at the right time or in manageable portions. And its not just food. Its in all aspects of people lives. Take Money and personal loads. the number of kids (sub 30’s) I now with HUGE credit card bills because they want this, want that and buy it no questions asked.
And some of them live at home with their parents. How the hell you’re in debt living at your mums house I’ll never know.

And this. It worrying how many kids I work with that can not cook a roast chicken. Or make a simple mince and tomato sauce meal.

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Absolutely spot on. People don’t understand that the process of transformation is an uncomfortable one. We live such lives of comfort that we interpret any sign of discomfort as some sort of glitch or mistake.

I’ve told this story a few times before, but it’s still a good one. I had a buddy that lost like 30lbs and looked great for it. One day, he comes up to me and wants to chat nutrition, and he goes ā€œThe weight loss has really been working, but I gotta ask you: what do YOU eat so that you’re not hungry all the time?ā€

And I look at him for a few seconds and go ā€œDude, I AM hungry all the time! If I wasn’t, I’d be VERY fatā€

And I saw the light go off in his head. He had been assuming up until this point that HE was the only one suffering and everyone else had it all figured out. And again, you can blame social media there too, because people only put forward the good times, and people observing it in turn believe that this is ā€œreal lifeā€.

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I’ve seen you tell that story before. And its SO good.

Any way I’ve made it clear on here that my wife is possibly the WORST person to train ever. And this is why. She’ll make no compromise. She wants to gently exercise few times a week, but have a 16 week transformation. She wants work out that only take 15 mins a day, but are not too intense. She wants to lose weight but eat all of her favourite foods and not be hungry. Don’t we all.

But recently Ive been having some great ā€œgainsā€ and whenever this happens, she’s starts the ā€œplease help me - I’m begging youā€ routine. She now wants to employee my coach to help her and I’m not keen at all. Its wasted money. If it was going to yield results, I’d spend hundreds on the coach. But it won’t work. Because she does not understand the fundamental truth. Its not a game. Its not easy. Its not quick. She will suffer. She will want to quit. Motorvation will die early doors. So she will pay him Ā£50 a month not stick to the plan and in 6 months time nothing would have changed.

You see I liken body transformation to running a marathon. And the coach as a cheerleader. Its easy enough to compete a marathon. Every year in London a load of people do it dressed as rhino’s. One man ran it in his 80’s. It was tough and took him 4 days. But he did it. And having a cheerleader will help. But ultimately - if at mile 5 you go - blow this I quit they can not make you carry on.

EDIT for grammar

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There is something to be said of the value of outsourcing the coaching. I did that with my kid and martial arts. I had fun teaching them the basics, but beyond that was just straining our relationship. Got them a coach, and I just sit in the back of the class and bite my tongue in half while I watch my kid fudge things, knowing that it’s not my problem to solve anymore, haha.

Yeah I can see that. But also - this is now taking something I’m using and she’s going to waste it. I should add that I’m limiting only 1 of us to using the coach. We ā€œcouldā€ afford both but we are also saving. So I’m not prepared to. And don’t need to. If she takes the coach, I have options. BUT - if she wastes it, its the principle.
As a way of explaining how strongly I feel: My wife and I are tight. Like sickly tight. And I would die to see her happy. My life is set around her and my kids. Every decision I make is made through the prism of ā€œWhat is best for the familyā€. But this - honestly if she took my coach and wasted it, it would end up with so much resentment. Because not only would she be taking something I was using and loved. But then she’s be making the decision to waste it.
We are having a heart to heart chat about it tonight as she wants to know why I’ve not called my coach about it yet.
I’ve not managed to find a way to say ā€œbecause if you screw this up I will divorce youā€ with out coming over like an arse hole.

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That’s the nature of letting someone else train her, though. You may have told her all this about training, and your coach may say, verbatim, what you’ve told her, and yet she might totally buy into him saying it, just because it’s not you saying it. I’ve run into the same thing with my wife, and a super jacked lady at the gym who’s a kettlebell instructor told her stuff I had said word-for-word to her weeks earlier, and where she ignored my advice, she listened and implemented it when that lady told her it.

Not saying to spend the $, and I don’t know the specifics of all of this, just pointing out that it might seem counterintuitive but the same advice might have to come from elsewhere. Often times married couples are too used to challenging each other to just change their beliefs like that

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I totally agree about the coach being a cheerleader for women. Sometimes women respond better to cheerleading than tough love. And somebody experienced with ladies might more accustomed to being supportive, and could maybe get better results from women than a drill sergeant type.

And I agree about my woman needing to hear stuff from somebody else than me before she would believe it.

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I can appreciate everyone’s POV. But I really think I’m underselling her attitude towards weight loss and body transformation.
She has this idea (force feed by shitty magazines) that there is a secret / easy method. Or that enough motivation will see her through.
We paid £60 for her to do an eating course. It was actually pretty good, with solid advice. But nothing changed.

It will end badly.

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I think your best bet might be to try and help her find a form of physical activity she actually enjoys- maybe try taking the focus off of aesthetics??

Perhaps we’re all overlooking the obvious solution:

Go full on Glenn Ross mode so that you no longer need to share your secrets/coach

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…I mean…dude WAS strong as hell…

EDIT: This actually ties back to a deal my wife and I had when she was pregnant where she was NEVER allowed to weigh more than me. She was actually a total champ the whole time, barely put on any weight, very strict diet, etc, but I was ready at a moments notice to pull the chalks and put on 30lbs…out of love of course.

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She plays netball.
And as an FYI I have 0 care about she looks. Her health worries me a touch. Diabetes in both parents. Heart issues also.

Its okay @T3hPwnisher - I like being able to see my genitals.

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