Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 1)

To start, this whole extreme “body positive” movement is beyond ridiculous. However, I do agree with the premise… to an extent. A couple of my professors who study behavioural health are generally supportive of this and my therapist does too (has 20+ years experience working with obese ppl at a weight loss centre

I went on a bit of a rant about this with my therapist and the conversation was quite enlightening. Apparently most obese ppl are NOT comfortable with who they are. They typically have low self esteem about their body or use food to self medicate (usually from some trauma) and many just give up after trying and failing. This isn’t good, but it happens. My therapist also said that many morbidly obese ppl refuse to look at themselves in the mirror to avoid facing the truth. She agreed that media is causing a pendulum swing and that there needs to be greater emphasis between “diet culture” and developing healthy lifestyle changes that happen to lead to weight loss.

She also brought up a point I think could be worth considering. Obesity rates are highest amoung low SES families/individuals b/c those families often don’t have access to healthy foods (something about food deserts and higher prices- led to another rant about politics LOL). I understand this perspective (don’t know how valid this argument is). If I was a single mother working 2-3 jobs and barely making ends meet. I’d definitely opt for the cheap junk food over meal prepping. There’s also evidence that children who grow up obese are more likely to be obese adults and most ppl just aren’t self aware to change. Those who did became clients of ppl like my therapist

Actually the body positive movement was supposed to be in my understanding about body positivity in people with birth defects… injuries and medical issue like breast removal.

At some point it got hijacked.

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Here in the US obesity levels are reported through the roof with sky high levels of type 2 diabetes occurring… great time to be pushing body positivity.

Hey you should loose some weight for health.

NAWH it will be ok… im happy and love myself. What’s a little diabetes?

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exactly! That’s what i was referring to by “extreme body positivity movement”

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As a diabetic, I cannot understand why folks who are “pre-diabetic” don’t do anything to change there habits before developing a disease that can affect them daily and progressively. Maybe they are rolling the dice since obesity actually only gives a 1 in 3 chance of diabetes, but those aren’t betting odds in mind.

Getting it due to crappy lifestyle is a rub for me in the diabetic community. Many of us who have it never did anything lifestyle wise to cause it. It’s not well understood, but there is evidence now of mostly genes playing a role in otherwise healthy people. To me, it’s committing a crime against your body not to take care of it when headed down that road.

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@anna_5588 - you are 100% correct. “extreme body positive”. Thats what it is.

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IMO extreme anything is generally bad

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I ordered a pair of Bowflex 552s* on Christmas Eve to my office, because I had ordered too much and was afraid my wife would flip if something else arrived to my house… any ways, I forgot about them until today, when the delivery guy had to walk two flights of stairs in a historic building with the dumbbells. Since then, I’ve bought pairs of dumb bells from 20s - 50s. I’ve determined these will be my office dumbbells and I’ll never speak of them. It’s been fun to do swings, press, raises, squats, etc. with them throughout the day.

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I mean it’s just ridiculous… some of these people are pushing for doctors not be allowed to weigh their patients. God forbid they suggest the patient in questing loose weight!

No one is suggesting certain people look like fitness models or some ridiculous standard.

But let’s spare a certain segments feeling and sugar coat it . Let’s tell them what they want to hear and not what they need to hear for their well being

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They are same ones who complain when they have to buy 2 plane tickets. If you take up the real estate of 2 seats nobody wants to cram in next to you.

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I confess I am SOOOOOOO goddamn tired of food going in and subsequently coming out of me. Now I remember why I ate junk food: so much easier. And yet again I say that losing fat is SOOOOO much easier than gaining muscle. I cannot wait to stop this and let some fat melt off by simply NOT eating.

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Most of us are struggling to find the fat to melt off :joy:

this is the ‘hard gainers’ (under eaters) curse. When you have to push the calories really high with clean ish food the amount of eating is simply unpleasant. On the plus side think of all those jaw gainz from the chewing !!

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Speaking of chewing, I read that TC article about spinach (nitrates) last week or so and he talked about the nutrition uptake increases with proper amounts of chewing. Read a bit more about chewing this weekend and the recommended amount I saw was ~32 chews per bite. Pretty sure I’ve consumed entire burgers in fewer than 32 chews.

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The autocorrect in email planforms and even this site has completely screwed up my spelling.

I confess I don’t know which is US and which is British anymore(not that I really care) and I can’t be bothered to go fuck with the settings.

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I get the misspelled red line thing every time but I still use the British spellings, feels more natural

Speaking of grammar errors, MY RESEARCH ADVISOR MADE A GRAMMAR ERROR!!!

This normally isn’t a big deal, but he did threaten to stop working with me because of my typos

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fixed that for you

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There is something oddly satisfying about having doms in your traps from deadlifts

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Lat DOMS from deadlifting!!

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And boy did it get hijacked. Theres now a lot of gatekeeping and basically its just fat positive. Some ‘leaders’ of the healthy at any size movement came out and said the movement is not for anorexia sufferers, basically just narrowing it down to fat acceptance.

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